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Topic: To Karen
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Subject: To Karen
Date Posted: January 12 2000 at 6:04am
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Dear Karen.I'm just curious about a the difference beween moisture and oil.It seems both are different things.It started with the general hair care thing about not conditioning the oily scalp.So I decided to do some research.I think what people should do is try to give moisture to the scalp and hair and not oiling it.Aveda said the same thing and recommended me their mint conditioner which is very light saying that its good for the oily scalp.I even went through a book about herbal treatments which has a oily scalp conditioner recipe.The startling discovery is most of the ingredients are condisered antiseptics and acidic like ginseng,mint and rosematy.Just wanted to know your opinonBest wishesMancy
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Posted By: KAREN
Date Posted: January 12 2000 at 6:04am
Hi,I agree....the scalp should not have oils added, even if the hair and scalp don't have an oiliness challenge. If the scalp gets too much oil, it blocks the scalp from breathing properly and it can cause all sorts of problems. So you are right....moisture from the view of washing the scalp is good, but not oil.Oily scalp is often quite an interesting challenge but a lot of the time people with oily scalps may also have dry hair. What I have found to be a good solution...based on feedback from HB visitors and from experts....is to shampoo the scalp area with one shampoo type and shampoo the rest of the hair with another type.Just like anything else related to hair, sadly, what works for one, will not work for someone else. I get lots of email from people telling me that they try my specific hair care regime (Aveda Shampure + Curressence or ARTec Smoothing shampoo + conditioner or Aubrey Honeysuckle Rose shampoo + conditioner) and it just does not work for them.This is actually true with Jeff who loves ARTec Smoothing conditioner but feels that the shampoo makes his hair oily because of the moisturizing properties. Jeff has found great success with Aveda Blue Malva shampoo which tends to be a little drying and then he uses ARTec Smoothing conditioner. His hair looks wonderful. Jeff also tends to have an oilier scalp than me and his hair, while coarse and naturally wavy like mine, is not color treated. So he has found his ideal solution.My good friend has thinning hair and he has great luck with Blue Malva as well...because his hair and scalp tend to be oily. He uses Cherry Almond Bark conditioner from Aveda and he finds this is also a little more drying for his hair...which is what he needs for his oily scalp.See what I mean....everyone is different. Which.... bottom line means that you best shot at finding a good solution for your oily scalp is to experiment and ask around. I think that Aubrey Organic makes a fabulous product. I have heard good things about many of their products. You may want to go to the local health food store and ask for a recommendation. Or you may want to try the Aveda color shampoos which definitely are more drying.Yes...even natural products will have the properties that you mention. That is because the acidic composition is known to decrease the oils. Is this the best solution? It really does depend on your hair and your own body chemistry.I think that the Aveda Rosemary Mint works good on oily scalps for the most part. I personally had terrible luck with the product.Using a cool/cold rinse will often hold oil at bay. Since my hair is on the dry to very dry side and because I have thyroid problems that dry my hair, I never use a cold water rinse anymore. It would actuallyh make it drier. My final rinse is with lukewarm water which actually adds a little moisture.I have also seen hair rememdies that rely on citrus products to cut the oil...like lemon and grapefruit. This may or may not be too extreme depending on the individual.Recently I saw an article by a famous hairstylist that recommended using an oily face procuct like SeaBreeze and dabbing it just on the scalp to cut the oil in between shampoos. Does that work? I can honestly say I don't know. Is it worth a shot? If you think it would be worthwhile, why not.Which gets us back through the circle of....what works for you is all that matters.The key is to treat your hair in a fashion that gives you the results that you desire. If you have mixed hair types...oily scalp and dry hair....then you may need to use two different types of shampoos.I certainly think that nothing should be accepted at face value. I certainly don't. Try some things and see.Also...let us know how you do. Besides frizzy/curly hair, oily scalp is the #2 topic I get the most email about.Thanks for sharing. I appreciate it.Hope this helps.Best wishes,Karen> Dear Karen.> I'm just curious about a the difference beween> moisture and oil.It seems both are different things.It> started with the general hair care thing about not> conditioning the oily scalp.So I decided to do some> research.I think what people should do is try to give> moisture to the scalp and hair and not oiling it.Aveda> said the same thing and recommended me their mint> conditioner which is very light saying that its good> for the oily scalp.I even went through a book about> herbal treatments which has a oily scalp conditioner> recipe.The startling discovery is most of the> ingredients are condisered antiseptics and acidic like> ginseng,mint and rosematy.Just wanted to know your> opinon> Best wishes> Mancy
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Posted By: Ginger
Date Posted: January 12 2000 at 6:05am
Karen, I would like to ask you what leave-in you use for your (dry) hair. Because I need something for my very dry hair as well. I wear my hear mostly in weaves.
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