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Topic: hair treatment for guys
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Subject: hair treatment for guys
Date Posted: November 06 2004 at 7:11am
hi!!! im just a beginner here and would like to ask a question. im sorry im a beginner in caring for my hair but im interested in it. How do you take care of your hair?? this question is for guys. is it true that when you use water based gels your hair gets easily managed even without the gel on?
do you believe hot oil can make your hair straighter, look softer and at the same time make it look wonderful? i mean i dont like to relax my hair because it wont make it permanent. any suggestions? thanks for reading this!!



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Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 06 2004 at 3:32pm
I'm not a guy.


Wait! Don't leave just yet!


...but my hair used to be as short as a guy's. Does that count?? I don't think gender matters when it comes to hair.

Back then, with a short cut, I was totally clueless about hair. I was using Pert Plus, and it was so harsh that it made the scalp greasier and greasier, and the hair stiffer and drier on the ends.

After doing mounds of research, here's my current haircare routine after a couple years of growth:
I do the whole CWC thing (condition-wash-condition).
(1) prewash oiling with coconut oil (maybe 1 cubic cm if you have short hair) (sometimes I replace the oil step with a V05 cheap conditioner)
(2) a gentle shampoo with sodium laureth sulfate, washing out the oil from the surface of the hair. What's absorbed into the hair shaft stays in.
(3) diluted apple cider vinegar rinse (weekly)
(4) Suave BioBasics conditioner (contains silicones)

It's not the gelling that helps the hair keep its "memory" but the combing and shaping process while wet. Hair has a great memory and it will do this even if just wet. Hair dries in the position it's in while it's wet (hence, when you part your hair in the same place, eventually it will part itself) That's just one example. And you're right to stay away from alcohol based gels because they are drying.

I don't do "hot" oil treatments per se, but just room temp ones (see #1). Oil treatments make most Asian hair shinier, less prone to tangling, and softer-feeling. Then again, it could be the Suave BioBasics or rainwater-rinses so it's hard to tell. Give it a go yourself.

HTH :)
Sorry I'm not a guy.

Anais


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 06 2004 at 9:48pm
thank you for replying.. nah im not particular with gender. im just seeking help here and any help is appreciated :)
ok, i dont knowif i should try hot oil anymore but i guess trying once is not bad right? what brand do you suggest?? loreal? or others?
with all of your 4 steps enumerated? what shampoo do you think have all this? waht conditioner do you use and how often do you use this?
thanks for reading this


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: November 07 2004 at 12:26am
if you have the cash, invest in quality hair prouducts. if you are guy and you scringe on buying hair products directly targetted to women, you can use hair products made for men. American
Crew is a great brand for men, Redken, Schakwarpf and Loreal all make hair products especailly for men. Try it.

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ARGHH


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 07 2004 at 11:51am
Hi Verion :)

Claribuzz mentioned products "designed for guys"-- that's a really good point. Basically, they're products designed for short hair (funny the makers assume guys will have short hair). Ideally, "short-hair" products clean gently so that the scalp doesn't overcompensate with its oil production, and won't cause visible scalp breakouts (by not using pore-clogging conditioner ingredients like PVP or silicones).

L'Oreal VIVE for Men Shampoo (daily thickening) Or L'Oreal kids shampoos fits these criteria.

In case you still have to read ingredients... Things like PVP, CVP; things that end in "cone", "conol", or "siloxane", aren't necessarily desirable in a shampoo. Personally I think shorthairs should avoid them in conditioners too, because you can't avoid putting the conditioner on the scalp if you have short hair.

When using oils, the "hot" part can be just natural body heat. I use coconut oil (found in cooking section at Walmart, or at natural food stores. I use Spectrum Essentials coconut oil) Oils that they sell as "hot oil" treatments aren't exactly "oil". Here are the ingredients to the Alberto VO5 Hot Oil Hair Treatment, Moisturizing Formula with Vitamin E:

Water (Aqua), Cocotrimonium Chloride, Acetamide MEA, Hydroxyethylcellulose, PEI-1500, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Polyquaternium-10, Octoxynol-9, Tocopheryl Acetate, Retinyl Palmitate, Thiamin Mononitrate, Ascorbic Acid, Panthenol, Hydrolyzed Soy Protein/Vegetable Amino Acids, /Lysine Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Phytantriol, Oleth-20, Methylparaben, Disodium EDTA, Fragrance (Parfum), Yellow 6 (CI 15985)


... well....

Except maybe Tocopheryl Acetate which is vitamin E ... I don't see oil, LOL.

HTH :)
Anais

P.S. I use V05 Tangerine Tickle and Suave BioBasics, but it won't necessarily work for your hair length and type.

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http://anaissatin.livejournal.com"> my LJ , 40 inches long


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 07 2004 at 10:50pm
thanks btw for replying. can i ask a question? this might sound stupid... do you think theres an easy way to have straight beautiful looking hair in just a month time? what do you think? do you think relaxing is actually good for the hair?


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 08 2004 at 9:16am
Relaxing makes hair permanently more brittle in the long run. So no, I normally don't support it.

Try it only if you don't have some big important occasion coming up (in case it's a disaster)

If relaxing is something you're willing to continue to do, relaxing gives straight and pretty results-- instant gratification. but it's like shaving legs, once you start you usually keep going. and it's very expensive over time.

I always talk gals out of chemical treatments, but since you're a guy I'm not stopping you (mainly because you have short spikeable hair that can grow back in not-quite-as-long time)

Good luck,
Anais


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: November 09 2004 at 3:49pm
define beautiful hair?
does it mean your hair all nice and natural as in it behaves the way it supposed to be whether straight, curly or wavy
or...
beautiful hair you see in magazines??
if you want natural beautiful hair like Anais it will take a bit more than one month but at least it last long.
magazines hair just takes a couple of hours to do. blow dry here, flat iron there, hair products here, a frizz treatment there. voila beautifull hair
but it is very expensive and last until the next wash.


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: November 09 2004 at 3:52pm
[QUOTE=claribuzz] define beautiful hair?
does it mean your hair all nice and natural as in it behaves the way it supposed to be whether straight, curly or wavy
or...
beautiful hair you see in magazines??
if you want natural beautiful hair like Anais it will take a bit more than one month but at least it last long.
magazines hair just takes a couple of hours to do. blow dry here, flat iron there, hair products here, a frizz treatment there. voila beautifull hair
but it is very expensive and last until the next wash.


P.S
relaxing is not good for the hair technically because it damages it BUT!!!! if you take care of it, you will lessen the damage. if it makes you happy to have board straight hair, go for it

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ARGHH


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 10 2004 at 7:43am
so you mean if i do try to relax then my hair will get damaged easier. but then you said i need to take care of it, if i do try it what should i do so my hair wont be damaged? what do you mean?

well my definition of beautiful hair is somethnig that is soft, shiny, manageable, and something to which i can try different hairstyles on...i dont know what anais look like at all...

thanks for helping me. thanks!!


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 10 2004 at 10:41am
Hey Claribuzz, thanks for your compliment... it means a lot to me, esp. because I've had a really rough past couple days.

Hugs,
Anais


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: November 10 2004 at 4:10pm
moisture
a good and healthy hair is all about moisture. if your hair can retain its moisture its healthy. if you had your hair relaxed you need to double up on the conditioning products to get the moisuture back. high quality salon products work the best but if you are on a budget ( where i come from, a bottle of those high quality conditioner equals to 5 days worth of meal here ) just use your regular cheap drugstore conditioner and use it a hair stlying product. just apply on wet hair and comb or style it with had although combing is the best choice. It not only acts as an intensive treatment ( you leave on all day ) its a great way if you are into the wet hair look.

P.S hey anais, i'm all cool with you. we are so different in our hair philopsophy ( you = natural beauty, me = man made beauty ) but what we both agree is how to make hair look and feel good to ourselves

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ARGHH


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 10 2004 at 10:37pm
what redken products would you suggest for me? or mayeb you prefer loreal? what can you suggest? i have a hair that reached the top shoulders, kinda dryish hair, hard to manage. definitely cant feel any moisture on it the color is not even pure black.. kinda dried black.... well, money is not a probelm for me actually ;)

im not sure do you think its ok to try woman's shampoo to a guys hair??

thank you for helping me and replying to my every stupid questions. ty!!


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: November 11 2004 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by verion verion wrote:

what redken products would you suggest for me? or mayeb you prefer loreal? what can you suggest? i have a hair that reached the top shoulders, kinda dryish hair, hard to manage. definitely cant feel any moisture on it the color is not even pure black.. kinda dried black.... well, money is not a probelm for me actually ;)

im not sure do you think its ok to try woman's shampoo to a guys hair??

thank you for helping me and replying to my every stupid questions. ty!!


there is nothing wrong with using womens shampoo. most of the us guys probably use the womens shampoo before we knew anything about styling and caring for hair. Its just than feeling of belonging when we use a mens shampoo. Something that attracts us. I love a good packaging in a product and you can see that mens shampoo is different in terms of packaging and styling.
Ok since you feel like your hair is lacking moisture try Redken for men Aquafy. Its made for dry hair. Then finished up with Finish Up conditioner.
Loreal has a line for men, but only to thicken and nourished thinning hair.
Sckwarphf I( i forgot how its spelled )has a great line for men called bonacure or somthing
Try to read up on American Crew. They makes excellent product for men covering from hair to toe


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ARGHH


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 11 2004 at 5:30pm
definitely wont try loreal since it will make my hair thicken when in fact i would like to have soft or kinda thin hair.... i dont even know the difference between soft and thin hair.. :)

sadly though american crew is not available here in our place... about bonacure... ill try to find out more... i like redken's package, the black type of cover.

do i apply both of this redken products while taking a bath or apply the conditioner after taking a bath?


thanks for helping me


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 12 2004 at 8:23pm
This is a really weird method but it works for me. I do the whole hair deal before turning on the shower. Basically I just stand in the shower and pour water using a giant plastic cup--for shampooing, vinegar rinse, etc... Then I apply conditioner and when I have a whole mess of conditioner in my hair, I make a bun and let it "penetrate" while I do the rest of my showerly duties. Then I rinse everything-- hair and body-- at the very end before leaving the shower.

Kinda time consuming but I only wash my hair once a week now anyways, LOL

HTH :)
Anais


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 14 2004 at 11:09am
im one sad person.... redken and american crew are not available here.... :( do you think citre will be ok to try? or do you think it wont be effective?
thanks for replying to my questions :)


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 15 2004 at 6:05am
do you think its safe to try citre as conditioner? or do you have any better product to recommend? :) i mean finesse also didnt work for me... :( know im becoming irritating to all of you.. and i would like to say sorry. thanks!!!


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 15 2004 at 10:31am
Only you can find out if Citre conditioner is good for your hair. I wouldn't use the shampoo though, it's too harsh.

HTH :)
Anais


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 16 2004 at 8:08am
ok i wont try citre because you mentioned its too harsh for my hair... now what shampoo could i use since redken and american navy is not available here... hmm... thanks for helping me!!!
btw when you say harsh what bad thing could happen to my hair? do you think using hair polisher is good for hair?


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 16 2004 at 9:32am
"Harsh" shampoos can cause your scalp to get oily faster, because the scalp overcompensates when the oils are removed too effectively or too quickly. A harsh shampoo can also roughen up the surface of your hair strands and cause more tangles, or cause dryness of the ends whether the scalp is dry or oily.

A gentle shampoo normally reads "sodium laureth sulfate" as the second ingredient. Nothing with the word "ammonium" or "lauryl".

HTH :)
Anais


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 17 2004 at 7:38am
you lost me during your last reply... i got confused sorry...

so thats why my hair is thick... its because all my shampoos have ammonium thing in it... do you think steryl alcohol is bad for hair? what other ingredients should i look out for when buying shampoos or conditioners? regular shampoos really are bad... thanks for telling me this ill watch out for this ingredients next time :D

so this are my questions. isnt having an oily scalp good at least your hair wont look dry right? compared to mine, mine is dry and dull looking. how do you make your scalp more helathier ?

thanks!!!


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 17 2004 at 9:43am
thick = lots of hairs per square inch. That's usually genetic though...

Other than what I listed there's not much else that is bad for hair. Hair can stand a lot of abuse, especially Asian hair. Among the shampoos I've used, the only ones that dried out my ends and clogged my roots were ones like Pert Plus (heavy-duty) and Head and Shoulders (heavy-duty).

Stearyl alcohol is what they call an "emollient" or "humectant". It moisturizes the hair, basically, and makes it feel smooth.

HTH :)
Anais


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 18 2004 at 7:44am
btw what do you mean moisturize? i mean isnt using conditioner supposed to moisturize your hair and make it softer? moisturize means making hair soft right?


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 18 2004 at 11:12am
Hey Verion

Hair has simple needs, really. I don't mean to make you paranoid or make your life more complicated :) Hair only needs three things in my opinion: (1) conditioner(s), (2) gentle shampoo (actually only the scalp needs shampoo. Some people don't use shampoo at all and just conditioner), and (3) oil, if a person has long hair.

Humectants like stearyl alcohol basically attract moisture to the hair shaft. Like glycerin, for example, if you leave it on the table it will turn into a blob because it sucks the moisture from the air

(1) Moisturizing ingredients prevent hair from drying out, and classic Asian hair tends to get dry faster than Caucasian or other kinds of hair. Hair that is TOO dry can break. Dry hair also tends to be more responsive to static.
(2) Moisturizing ingredients will probably make hair seem "bouncier" which in some cases might make hair LESS soft, but will make hair healthier, that's for sure. It depends on what you want to sacrifice.
(3) Certain combinations of conditioners will weigh hair down if a person has too much volume. Likewise, certain combos of conditioners can make fine hair limp.
(4) Moisturizing ingredients provide some protection before a chemical treatment.

HTH
Anais


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: November 18 2004 at 4:04pm
i dont think head and shoulders is that bad. it is a dandruff shampoo, so its good if you have mild to medium dandruff. its a shampoo i use once a week to keep my dandruff in check.

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ARGHH


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 18 2004 at 8:38pm
Claribuzz is right... I'm sorry I made the assumption. Although Head and Shoulders is probably too drying for everyday use, a periodic weekly "keep in check" use is a GREAT idea! I'm gonna give that a try sometime for my own dandruff (mine STICKS like the D.ickens to my scalp!! It doesn't flake off!)

Thanks a million!

Anais


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 21 2004 at 9:35am
you know i never thought of using head and shoulders again because i thought my dandruff days are over cuz i dont itch... cept maybe when i use water based gel... do you think i should use dandruff shampoo too once a week?? although head and shoulders do have a cool effect on the scalp... minty :)

in terms of long hair do you think hairs up to shoulders need to use oil like you said? i think when one dont use shampoo and just depends on conditioner i think hair wont get soft or manageable... im not sure though...
so basically when my hair gets dry, i just use a leave on conditioner like hair polisher that at the same time cures my split ends... never known if it does do the things it says though... :(

what do you mean with static?? i mean even though i use pantene conditioner my hair looks dry after like 5 hours or so... it wont last till night... maybe conditoner would never work for my hair... :(

regarding the number 2 answer of anais what do you think is better hair condition? what makes hair more beautiful to look at and easier to manage?

as always, thank you for helping me.


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: November 22 2004 at 7:44am
Originally posted by verion verion wrote:

you know i never thought of using head and shoulders again because i thought my dandruff days are over cuz i dont itch... cept maybe when i use water based gel... do you think i should use dandruff shampoo too once a week?? although head and shoulders do have a cool effect on the scalp... minty :)

in terms of long hair do you think hairs up to shoulders need to use oil like you said? i think when one dont use shampoo and just depends on conditioner i think hair wont get soft or manageable... im not sure though...
so basically when my hair gets dry, i just use a leave on conditioner like hair polisher that at the same time cures my split ends... never known if it does do the things it says though... :(

what do you mean with static?? i mean even though i use pantene conditioner my hair looks dry after like 5 hours or so... it wont last till night... maybe conditoner would never work for my hair... :(

regarding the number 2 answer of anais what do you think is better hair condition? what makes hair more beautiful to look at and easier to manage?

as always, thank you for helping me.


well if you dont have dandruff might as well dont use it, if you want minty feeling shampoo, might as well by pepermint oil or eucylaptus oil, add them to shampoos that you like or by minty shampoos
static is when the hair seems never to fall down str8. its has life of its own : D.

a better hair condition is when you accept your hair as it is. just a gentle shampoo, suitable conditioner, protected from the sun, healthy die will mnake hair easy to managed

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ARGHH


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 22 2004 at 10:44am
"Healthy" and "manageable" hair has to do with what you DON'T do, not what you DO with your hair. For healthy hair in the long run, I second Claribuzz's suggestion about good diet:

--eat a balanced diet and take a daily mulivitamin.

Also, you can...
--minimize your use of heat tools (includes blow drying)
--minimize your use of hair dyes and exposure to chemicals (e.g. perms and relaxers)
--if you tie your hair back, use a neutral colored hair-tie instead of a real rubber band
--I mixed you up with another guy and thought you had shorter hair :) So it's shoulder length then? Do you plan to grow it longer? cut it? keep it the same length? The thing is, ideal haircare does change if you are planning to grow longer.

But otherwise keep it as simple as possible. Complicated routines are often unnecessary.

Oh,.. and about Pantene... if your hair doesn't like Pantene, stop using it and likewise you'll want to avoid L'Oreal and Fructis conditioners too. They have a common ingredient type and that's probably what's making your hair feel dry. Plastics can sometimes keep the moisture OUT. As for what to use instead... all of these have NO plastic coating ingredients: Suave Naturals, Biolage's Conditioning Balm, White Rain Classic Extra Body, the original VO5 flavors... or you can layer them too, a Suave Naturals and a V05. Even better, they are both cheap.

Anais


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 24 2004 at 7:10am
what do you think are signs you have dandruff except having itchy feelings? i recently watched home infomercial, do you think buying those revo styler would be good for the hair. im kinda thinking to give it to my ma.. what do you think?

hi calribuzz i do hope that my hair is easily managed... im hoping to have the hair of korean guys those straight down hair with the cut in the middle of maybe side... thats what i like now i dont know how to even get that though in my place i see lots of people with hair like that... its so frustrating :(

multivitamin?? what can i eat that could make my hair better?? is there a way liek that?

yeah i do plan to make my hair longer because im trying to look like someone i see on korean tv here. my hair is kinda on shoulder length at back and at the front reach the neck almost.

you know im also stupid i dont even know if the shampoo or conditioners im using is useful for my hair or not... :( any help?

BTW THANKS A LOT FOR ALWAYS HELPING ME!!! THANKS!!


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 24 2004 at 10:51am
There are two kinds of dandruff: the kind that flakes off and the kind that sticks to your scalp oil. Hypothetically, if I go for a month without a hairwash, I could run my nail across the scalp and get a thick paste that doesn't dissolve.

A Revo styler is just another money gimmick in my opinion. You can get the same effects with a boar bristle brush for five dollars. The Revo just saves having to use wrist motion to brush. Which I think is ridiculous.

As for products: If it makes your scalp produce less oil, than it is a good shampoo. If it makes your hair feel bouncy, free of static, and not dry, then it is a good conditioner. If you want to increase your chances of buying the right product, read the ingredients. I've outlined a few things about ingredients in my above posts.

A multivitamin is just a vitamin tablet you can buy at a drugstore like Payless or a supermarket like Safeway, Albertsons... even Walmart has multivitamin tablets. Include lots of protein and vegetables in your diet: fish, eggs, nuts, broccoli...

Hope this helps.
Anais


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: November 24 2004 at 7:45pm
hey anais, with my tropical weather here, if i dont shampoo after 3 days, my hair produce the same undisolve gunk if you scratch the scalp. YUCK!!

verion, do you mean cut in the middle or side..... is parting the hair right. If you want to make it part, you either have to brush it and part in everyday for like 15 minutes or get a relaxer to help you part in that area.
you can always create you own version of the style.

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ARGHH


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 27 2004 at 10:10am
Ok i found out i have a good shampoo though the one i do use have that ammonium laureate thing... well i have a wrong conditioner... since it made my hair bouncy only after the first 3 hours then after taht no more... the ahir is dry like i just used a shampoo. protein hmm?? ok im looking for that multivitamin :D do you think i should use conditioner more rather than shampoo or do them both together?? how many times for a week what do you think?

btw claribuzz where did you part your hair?? yeah i part in the middle just like those koreans did. i thought you said relaxing is bad for the hair how could the use of relaxer help me? do you think buying a relaxer and doing it on my own will be good for me provided i read the manual? oh yeah the only thing i cant do is to let the white scalp be mroe prominently seen when i part my hair so i have like a thin line of white only :(

thanks for the help!!


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: November 28 2004 at 3:07am
well.. you should you a conditioner right after a shampoo. washing and condition your hair 3 times a week i sufficient. hmm you want bouncy hair... i think you may need more than just shampoo and conditioner. you need to boost it with some hair treatment. Anais has great ideas for hairtreatment. a friend of mine wanted soft hair, so he went and got VO5 hot oil. he does it like twice a week and he liked the results. maybe you need some body to your hair to make it nice and bouncy. What shampoo are you using now? I think you should look for hair products with protein components in them.


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: November 28 2004 at 9:49am
well about the suggestion of products that anais said. im currently searching it here in our place :)
actually im in a doubt of whether i like a flat down hair like those korean actors.... or maybe let my hair have a bouncy one so it wont look like lifeless... is this v05 hot oil a conditioner that can be bought on stores? so your friend now have beautiful hair?
hair product with protein on it? what do you suggest? about my shampoo and conditioner? well i borrow from my sis. she uses Citre both for shamp and cond.


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: November 28 2004 at 11:41pm
Vo5 hot oil treatment is availble in most supermarket and drugstore. my friend has very fine hair, so he wanted softness with it, so he uses the oil treatment. if i am not mistaken there is a version of the oil to provide bouncy hair.. try it.

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ARGHH


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 9:41am
Shampoo is only necessary for the scalp. Conditioner is usually only necessary for the length of the hair. You should only shampoo as often as your scalp needs it. (if the scalp feels greasy and itchy or otherwise nasty, then shampoo it) But as Claribuzz said, always ALWAYS condition after shampoo. Whether you use conditioner separate is up to you, but ALWAYS use it after shampoo.

I don't know... You could do shampoo on Sundays (or substitute a day) and Conditioner Only (CO) on Tuesdays and Thursdays... that's just an example. Shorter hair has different needs than longer hair, so you'll have to find out what works best for you. Try a weekly routine and keep track in a journal for a month.

Me, I CWC (condition, shampoo, condition) every 5 days and might condition-only in between those days. Others may do shampoo+conditioner every 3 days and conditioner-only in between. If you're shampooing less often, it takes about 2-3 weeks for the scalp to adjust. Then the scalp will naturally produce less and less oil.

If you're looking for shampoos and conditioners with protein, then you'll want to stay away from oil treatments because protein and oil usually react to make the hair feel brittle. You'll want to just pick ONE of them.

Hope this helps :)
Anais


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: December 04 2004 at 10:06pm
hi! i thought relaxing is bad for the hair? why did you said it could help my hair? soft hair and bouncy hair? which is better? im confused which is more better to look at and managed?
oh yeah i found schwarzkopf here and bought a moisture shampoo for my hair since you suggested maybe my hair lacks moisture because of its dryness. do you think after using the whole shampoo my hair would improve? because right now im afraid mayeb i spent money that could not help my hair. also is it supposed to be that after using that shampoo when my hair is wet it feels like it has plastic in it? is this supposed to be the case?
thanks for readign my question and for helping me :)


Posted By: claribuzz
Date Posted: December 05 2004 at 12:43am
relaxing is good for some asian hair because it makes it softer by softning the shaft of the hair. if done properly and you condition well, hair is transformed. this only work if you have short hair but want the flatness of longhair.

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ARGHH


Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 9:13am
hi!! can i ask something? i notice something in my hair, when i comb my hair, my scalp feels kinda cleaner and easier to comb after using the shampoos you mentioned... but then i notice my hair kinda feels dry... what do you think is wrong? thank you!!



Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: December 15 2004 at 2:21pm
Hi Verion,

I doubt your hair is dry.
If your hair is dry then you would probably notice some difference in color.

Some conditioners build up on hair and don't wash out easily, making hair feel brittle or crunchy. I prevent this with a vinegar rinse:

---Basically, I take 1/2 cup vinegar and put it in a soda bottle, then add 2 cups of tap water.
---Pour this mixture through your hair AFTER shampooing and BEFORE conditioner. ... so it goes Shampoo, Vinegar rinse, Conditioner.
---It's best to do this once a week, or every two hairwashes.

Vinegar removes all the conditioner residue that sticks to absorbent hair (typical Asian hair, especially, is VERY absorbent)

The vinegar smell goes away after the hair has dried.

ANYways, I suggest you try this first before experimenting with more products again. Who knows, maybe your hair IS dry, but it's best to rule out product buildup first.

HTH :)
Anais

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Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 7:40am
ok i'll try this procedure once i fear that it may damage more my already bad hair :) btw what can this vinegar procedure do to help my hair??

also question is there a way to make my hair kinda fall flat because my hair is looking big like it wont EVER fall down like other male korean can? what do you think i should do?

thanks for helping me again!! :)


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: December 16 2004 at 12:57pm
Sorry to cut and paste but I have a bazillion things to do right now.. :)

Some conditioners build up on hair and don't wash out easily, making hair feel brittle or crunchy.

Vinegar removes all the conditioner residue that sticks to absorbent hair (typical Asian hair, especially, is VERY absorbent)

it's best to rule out product buildup first.

and frankly there's not much you can do to make your hair "fall flat" because coarse hair (wide strands) likes to spring upwards. It's the nature of Asian hair. Don't fight it. :)



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