how do you bleach???
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Printed Date: February 08 2026 at 4:07pm
Topic: how do you bleach???
Posted By: littleroo
Subject: how do you bleach???
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 12:17am
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I dyed my hair a few days ago with a box blonde color. It turned a vitamin c orange color. I really want it bleach paris hilton blonde. I want to bleach it but I have no clue how to do it. Am I just pouring bleach on my hair and waiting for a minute?? 10 minutes?? I know the process takes a bit of time, so i'm willing to do other steps. however, i'm not willing to go to a professional and I'm not willing to spend a lot of money. while my hair is messed up...might as well mess it up for less...right??? i can easily just go back to dying it brown so that's always an option...i just want to bleach it. am i going to dillute the bleach??? do i shampoo my hair after the process?? i heard somehting about putting a bag on my head..whats that about?? will beer do the trick??? or peroxide??? HELP PLEASE! |
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Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 3:18am
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I'm guessing from what you've written that you have dyed hair, and you tried to do a box blonde hair color over that. Is that correct? Bleach does not generally remove dye from hair. Box hair color is designed to lighten your hair two shades, so it has some bleaching effect. What you did was to remove some natural color from your hair, but left the dye. Colorfix might remove this, but you should do a strand test to make sure it won't do more damage to your hair. Then you might need to bleach to get it lighter. In any case, you'd need to use a toner to achieve a natural-looking haircolor. I know you don't want to see a colorist, but at this point it's the safest thing to do. If you decide to go ahead with the project, you should follow the directions on the labels of the products you are using rather than asking us to guess what you should do with them. ------------- 
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Posted By: Alyssa_
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 5:09am
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I may be mistaken here, but it sounds to me like you may be talking about using household bleach... PLEASE don't put that on your head!!! Go to a beauty supply store and they will help you pick out a bleach meant for use on your hair. ------------- |
Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 7:05am
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I did the same thing the first time I was trying to dye mine white. If you choose to bleach, go to Sallys and get stuff made for hair....when I was 14 I tried household bleach and its really really not worth what happens! You will never be able to go white after using household bleach until all that damaged hair grows out and gets cut off, trust me. After you get "hair" bleach (from Sallys or other beauty supply shop) and use it, you will get yellow hair, and you will then need from Sallys a high lift blonde dye with a violet base and a 30 volume developer to mix it with...then follow the instructions on the dye. The violet base in the dye is important because it will counter the yellow (which your hair will be after you bleach it with "hair" bleach). Please do a test strand of everything on a hidden strip of hair so you know how long to leave things in and you won't damage your whole head if you go too long....also do an allergy test, putting the stuff on the inside of your elbow a day or two in advance to make sure you're not allergic. Edited to say: After your hair is white your going to need major conditioning. You might want to pick up a hefty conditioner when at Sallys....Pantene is also good, you will need something with silicone that helps glue splits together, because dyed white hair is always somewhat split. You will also have to trim your hair more frequently for the same reason. ------------- Making metal barettes/concord clips hair safe, long hair style how to: http://alonghair.wordpress.com |
Posted By: littleroo
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 8:07am
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hahahah yeah i thought I could use normal household bleach. I've dyed my hair before lots of colors, i've dyed since I was like 14 but I always wait a couple of months before dying it again. I guess I'll just keep washing it to see what happens...hopefully it'll fade. ------------- |
Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 9:49pm
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littleroo, I'm not sure what you're expecting to fade. That orange is the result of lightening brown or black hair. It lightens to red, then orange, gold, yellow, and pale yellow. What you managed to do with the box dye was lift to the orange state, and it's going to be orange until you do something. The only way you're going to go lighter is bleach. A colorstripper isn't going to help much, either, unless you used a really dark blonde. There are high-lift dyes out there, such as L'Oreal Hi-Color. If you're not into bleaching, you could try Hi-Color with 30 or 40 vol developer (depending on how dark you hair is...darker hair needs a higher-power developer). If you choose to bleach, get something like Wella Speedlite and 20 vol developer. It's easier to keep an eye on things using a lower volume (like 20), and you'll be less likely to melt your hair off. Once you've got pale yellow, a violet-based toner or semi-permanent dye will knock out the yellow. Always do a strand test, and always read all the instructions for the product you buy...they're not all the same. And read this: http://web.archive.org/web/20030430220712/http://www.knaresboroughsatellite.com/bleaching4.htm - http://web.archive.org/web/20030430220712/http://www.knaresboroughsatellite.com/bleaching4.htm ------------- |
Posted By: littleroo
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 10:35pm
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I got this stuff called blue bleach dye. I got one packet for like 3.99 and then I got a high lift 30 creme stuff. Can i use this on my hair now??? or do i have to wait...it looks horrible but I'm soooo scared my hair is going to fall otu. Also (the person that replied before me), the links you just gave me didn't work! ------------- |
Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 6:48am
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Do a test strand on a piece of hair on the underside where no one can see it. If the test strand gets too damaged, then you'll know not to do it. You do not need to wait. ------------- Making metal barettes/concord clips hair safe, long hair style how to: http://alonghair.wordpress.com |
Posted By: KB
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 1:39pm
| I give you credit for being brave enough to try this. I'm terrified just reading about it. |
Posted By: littleroo
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 4:28pm
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Ok, heres an update. I used the bleach for 10 minutes and everything came out awesome...except...the fact that my roots are wayyyy blonder then the rest of my head....is it ok to dye it tomorrow?????? none of my hair broke and it's still really shiny, strong and silky.... ------------- |
Posted By: Innamorata594
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 5:50pm
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your roots are lighter because your body heat makes them process faster..In reality, you can put the dye over it now and its not going to ruin your hair. ------------- Sara |
Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: February 10 2005 at 7:00am
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Are your roots actually a different color than the rest, or is it all different shades of yellow? You could run into problems if some is still orange. If it's all yellow, you'll be fine with a violet based dye. ------------- Making metal barettes/concord clips hair safe, long hair style how to: http://alonghair.wordpress.com |
Posted By: DyeGuy
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 4:29am
I realize I'm coming in really late with this but I was hoping Susan W (or someone else) could clarify something...
A high lift blonde after bleaching? Isn't that horribly damaging? High Lifts are notorious for actually being harsher than bleach usually. I've never heard anyone recommend using anything but a low-ammonia demi or toner after bleaching. |
Susan W wrote:Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 7:36am
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Well, this is why I try to repeat as much as I remember to that I'm not
a pro, and I always tell the person to do a test strand to make sure
they don't kill their hair based on anything I may say. Others of
us on here are also not pros (though some are), and that is why the hairboutique rules of
the forum suggest you consider taking everything you read with a grain of
salt. I am only trying to help, and if I ever say anything that
someone else perceives to be bad for another person, I hope that
someone does correct me, as you did. So, do you think the high lift
after bleach would really be worse than the high lift after repeated
high lift use? When I did my hair platinum, I used high lifts
only and no bleach, so I thought it would actually be better for the
hair to use them for a short time only and weakly after bleach instead
of after high lifts. If I am wrong on that, I will be very happy
if you let me know. The basis for my suggesting that a dye be
used instead of a toner is because often people complain of their
platinum going yellow and not staying white. When I kept my hair
platinum, I never had any problem with the whiteness fading to yellow
because I used the dye instead of toner.
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