Possibly a VERY Dumb Idea...
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Topic: Possibly a VERY Dumb Idea...
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Subject: Possibly a VERY Dumb Idea...
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 8:54pm
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So I'm thinking about the fact that you can't use a curling iron on synth (or on most synth), although you can use velvet-covered rollers. And then I thought, what's to stop me from sewing a simple cotton-velvet or velveteen tube to serve as a "sleeve"/slipcover for the barrell? A rayon-velvet would probably melt, but maybe the cotton velvet would hold up? Any opinions? Has anyone tried this? ****This may be a really dumb idea, so don't anyone try this at home! ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
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Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:07pm
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You crack me up... you're full of ideas Jenny... I don't think the synth would hold the curl, if it would even take... synth would have to be manufactured curly..... no? In human hair, when we take the curling irons to our heads... bonds are actually broken down (in the many layers of hair we have) and reformed by the heat in order to take new shape... there are no bonds or layers or porosities, or anything for the matter in something fake (synthetic). ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:18pm
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Oh, yeah. You can definitely curl synth with hot rollers and steam rollers. You can also put it in rollers and then blow it dry. It will pick up the shape; conversely, you can straighten curly or wavy synth hair quite easily, by either taking a hot shower or blowing it straight. The reason you can't use a curling iron, though, is that it would be too hot--it would singe the hair and, hence, ruin it. I was thinking the velvet would provide enough of a barrier between the metal barrier and the heat. For example, people use velvet-covered rollers with synth all the time (one assumes the rollers are plastic, but the velvet material provides an extra layer of protection)..... :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:23pm
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Bridget, I dont know much about all the scientific stuff concerning hair, but we do know that certain types of synthetic hair, the higher qualities such as Dome, Prostyles, Trimco, Plastikhaar, can be curled and will hold curl. Velvet covered hot rollers are generally what people use on these types of synthetic hair. We know that a hot metal curling iron will melt the hair. I for one have no coordination with hot rollers whatsoever, but use a curling iron like a pro! So Jennys idea is interesting because we cannot find velvet covered curling irons! Anywhere Ive searched! Any ideas anybody! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:26pm
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There we go again Jenny....we need an icon for this physcic blonde thing ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:31pm
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I guess the synth. hair I've messed with in the past has been of a poor quality. Jenny, you may have a million dollar idea! there's so many brands of synth flying around this board, can you tell me again what kind you've ordered?  ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:35pm
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There you go Jenny. You can make velvet curling iron covers for all the people who will switch to synthetic! LOL ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: RoseRose
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:35pm
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I have had pinch braided synthetic extensions put in and I really wanted some curl. The woman who put them wrapped the synth in a roller and steamed it with a steamer. It held for almost an hour then fell. This is high quality stuff too, the kind you get from hairpolice.com Rose ------------- |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:38pm
anyone else have any curling expierence?  ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:39pm
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Hmmm. Rose thats Trimco hair and yes its the high quality stuff! From what everyone using other curling methods say, the curl will last for a LONG time. Like even weeks! So I wonder if your hair just wasnt steamed long enough, or it didnt get hot enough to get a good holding curl? ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:44pm
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A million-dollar idea? Perhaps...I can just see the late-night infomercial now....All these sad-looking girls with their fried synth hair...And then--the velvet sleeve to the rescue!!! I digress...but those infomercials always crack me up. Anyway, I've ordered Dome and Plastikhaar; I may order some ProStyles too, but I've been dragging my feet on that (also, I think you may have to be licensed to get that hair). Anyway, those three brands--along with Trimco--are generally considered high-quality synth (in other words, suitable for loose extensions); they're also called monofibre or monofilament. They're a step up from the typical silky straight sold at Doc's or Afrocare, and many steps up from jumbo braid. Generally, the only thing synth really responds to is heat, which is why they were applied for many years with the heat-sealed (or Dome) method, wherein the synthetic hair is actually melted in on itself around your real hair, which is box-braided. Anyway, a lot of us are seriously thinking about switching to synth; a lot of people really prefer it. For examples of how good it can look, you've got to check out Boogiemama's synth gallery (if you haven't before): http://www.boogiemama.com/album/thumbnails.php?album=1 - http://www.boogiemama.com/album/thumbnails.php?album=1 I believe she uses ProStyles, but most people seem to feel ProStyles, Dome, Trimco, and PlastikHaar are comparable. :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:45pm
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Rose: I've heard that (unlike Dome, Prostyles, and PlastikHaar), Trimco only comes in straight (that's why I eliminated it from mt list; someone on Quinn's said it somewhere...). :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Gina E
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:55pm
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HEHEHE I stay up extra late just to watch that infomercial! Seriuosly though and this may be a very gay idea...but what about using material like on oven mitts (the siver kind) It might sound ghetto...but hey You started this whole idea. ------------- I've got a new puppy!!! She's a http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/GinaE52979/EvansFirstDayandRoxy06019.jpg - White Boxer |
Posted By: Alyssa_
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:55pm
I'm *almost positive* that I have seen a velvet-covered curling iron at wal-mart. I remember it being blue.. but I may be thinking of a straightener?? Not sure. Anyway, I'm going grocery shopping tomorrow, I'll stop in and check as long as I'm out.  ------------- |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:58pm
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Perhaps...the silver quilted stuff? I imagine that could work, but the kind used for oven mitts is awfully thick...maybe there's a thinner version? I'm sure there are probably a few times of material that would conduct heat without becoming damaged, but I'm no textiles expert. Will need to ask around a little more... :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 9:59pm
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Alyssa that would be wonderful. If you see one let us know! I have seen a ton of straightening irons with switchable plates that include a flocked plate....so where the heck are the flocked curling irons! LOL. I remember years ago they were everywhere and I didnt like them because I didnt think they got hot enough (long before extensions!) now when I want one they're nowhere to be found! Just my luck! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:02pm
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Hi Alyssa, Apparently, there is a velvet-covered flatiron by Conair; the rationale being that it's not as damaging as the standard metal or ceramic versions. I was actually reading customer reviews of it the other day, but unfortunately, the reviews weren't good.... I imagine it just doesn't straighten with the same force that the traditional kinds do. Incidentally, there is a company--I think its Rusk--that just debuted (or will soon debut) a glass-bladed flatiron (the idea is that the glass moves more smoothly over the strands, which, in turn, would lead to less damage). I haven't tried it out, though. :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:03pm
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Sherrie, it's too freaky--I'm not even going to say anything this time. LOL :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:05pm
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Jenny....I just saw the glass plated straightening iron about 5 minutes ago on targetstores.com.....Moderators...we need a new icon here! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:06pm
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I think I've seen the velvity irons too... some where... long time ago... back in the day.... maybe walmart... HEHE Jenny, I'd be one of those girls watching that station! I always catch myself watching the workout ones... the whole 30 damn minutes!! ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:18pm
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I don't even know if it's an infomercial (might be just a very long and annoying ad), but you know the one for the "Natural Bra"--the jelled silicone cups with the clasp in the middle? It's on every time I turn the channel...uugggghhhh.... ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:27pm
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haven't seen the glass flat irons... I wonder about that cracking though... yikes! ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: RoseRose
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:38pm
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Anyone can buy Trimco from hairpolice.com they will even make you a mixed bag if you ask. On the Plastikhaar site is there anywhere with English names for the hair also I didnt see any curly - didnt someone mantion that they have curly? ------------- |
Posted By: Kris408
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:46pm
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Hey jun i do no how to put a curl in synth hair what u can do is take some really big curlers. set them take some boiling water and dip it the hair wont change it will only be curly make sure that u test the curlers for the right curl.. but the hot water will work just hold it in for about 1 min.. try it let me no if u tried.. ------------- Kris |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:47pm
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Rose here's the link to the curls http://www.plastikhaar.ch/bilder/curls.jpg - http://www.plastikhaar.ch/bilder/curls.jpg ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:51pm
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Hey Rose, I think you can change the language to English in some parts of the site, but I'm not sure about the Wholesale (or monofibre) area. The curl patterns are here: http://p080.ezboard.com/fhair18356frm10.showMessage?topicID=2290.topic - http://p080.ezboard.com/fhair18356frm10.showMessage?topicID=2290.topic (about halfway down the thread). Amm also photographed some of her Plastikhaar samples today (on page two of the thread): http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum/viewthread.asp?page=2&pagesize=20&forum=AMB_AP934431446&id=2945 - http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum/viewthread.asp?page=2&pagesize=20&forum=AMB_AP934431446&id=2945 Good luck! :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 10:53pm
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Jenny I have a new link for PlasikHaar curl pattern so you dont have to read all the way down the page. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 11:07pm
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Aha! Very good. You ordered the 28mm right, Sherrie? I ordered the 50mm. It may be a bit too loose, but I vascillate a lot between wavy and straight. I love the look of wavy, but I'm super-particular about it; I've never gotten a wavy texture I liked in human, so I always just end up getting the straight these days and then curling it.... Oh, the trials and tribulations of being a hair freak! ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 11:12pm
Yep I ordered the 28mm. I actually think I could use the 22mm. I put quite a bit of curl in my hair. Since it seems that it would be easier to straighten, then to curl synthetic(since Im a dunce with hot rollers) I may order the 22 mm next time around! Although I sent Sara a picture of my hair and she said 28mm will be good! So I will find out soon I hope! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: MERGUTHRIE
Date Posted: January 11 2005 at 11:12pm
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When I was 14 I HAD a curling Iron that was velvet. If only I held onto it! ------------- i love plastikhaar |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 6:44am
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Merguthrie: I wish you'd held onto that iron, too. Again, this whole "sleeve" idea may not work out, but I'm tempted to try it since hot rollers seem like a lot more work--with less control over the end result--to me. Sherrie: I BMed you (so check 'ya mail). I'm sure the 28mm wave will look great. I love the PH wave patterns! :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Kalika
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 9:26am
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if you wanna curl synth hair, before you braid, weave, ring it in (however you apply) - you need to wrap it around a curling rod and dip it into boiling water. you can also straighten it the same way (without the rod of course) I remember a Drlocks guide to it before, but Im not sure where that webpage is located ------------- |
Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 9:42am
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Here it is: http://www.drlocks.net/extension_demo_home.htm - http://www.drlocks.net/extension_demo_home.htm ------------- 
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Posted By: Kalika
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 9:49am
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aha! I knew I wasnt imagining things ------------- |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 6:28pm
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Yeah, I checked that out, and it's cool, especially if you want to tweak the texture before application. I'm not all that concerned about the hair not being the texture I want prior to application, though. It's more a matter of when the hair becomes straighter, how do I revive the wave/curl? I know you can use hot rollers and steam rollers (I imagine once it's on your head, dipping it in the bowl of hot water wouldn't work all that well). My concern about the rollers, though, is that you don't have as much control over the waves as you do with a curling iron. That said, I'm sure I'll figure it out one way or another. LOL. :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 6:43pm
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That was my main concern too. Rolling the hair on a curler and dipping in hot water prior to application works but you cant do that once its on your head! Ive been doing some experimenting this evening with some prostyles hair that I have and so far Im not too happy with the results 1. I tried a curling iron on very low temp. Didnt curl well at all. 2. On high temp. it frazzled the ends. 3. On low temp I dampened the strand and it takes a beautiful curl, but the very ends seem a bit dry afterwards. grrrr...will keep experimenting! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 6:48pm
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Hey Sherrie, Just for kicks, I wonder what would happen if you tried to curl the hair while it's a bit damp, with a washcloth wrapped around the barrel. (I have no idea if this'll help with the dryness or not.) Oh, wait...I've got my Dome. I'll try it myself ASAP! :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 9:57pm
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if the irons don't work, why not put a braid in the hair and blow dry it a bit... you may also need a glosser spray for the hair to keep the shine when it becomes dull looking... what do you think? ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 10:05pm
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Yeah, I think the braid may be a good idea--particularly when drying it or sleeping with it. I don't usually like the way the human hair I have looks after it's been in a braid, but it may be great with the synth. And I love silicone sprays; I think they're essential with all extensions, actually. I feel like I go through one bottle of the stuff a week (no kidding). I should start buying that in bulk! :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 10:13pm
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So far the curling irons havent worked real well in my trials....dont know about Jenny! My curling iron is my best friend, I dont know if I can live without it ! LOL. Really I just feel like I have no control of the finished effect with rot rollers. And I am determined to find a velvet covered curling iron... or a way to use a curling iron on synthetic. I just havent figured it out yet. The braiding it will work nicely for a loose wave but I wear my hair with more curl most of the time. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 10:15pm
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You know what you need?.... The Velvet Sleeve, girl! Seriously, though, there must be a solution. This may be one for Quinns, actually..... ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 10:26pm
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what about setting the hair w/rollers and using a lot of setting lotion and sit under the hood dryer... ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 10:29pm
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Jenn Ive posted at Quinns too......no success so far ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 10:29pm
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Yeah, that would definitely work. I think rollers of virtually any kind work with synth hair. I think it's more of a preference/control issue really. Personally, I feel like I have a lot more control over the finished look with a handheld curling iron than with rollers (not to mention it takes less time). I love the way hot rollers add volume, though--they're unbeatable in that regard! :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 10:33pm
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Well, I'm hopeful. If the girls at Quinn's can figure out how to make hair completely stand on its end, craft amazing feathered head-dresses, construct light-up creations out of jumbo braid, and fashion industrial locks out of hardware-store supplies, this should really be a cinch--don't you think? :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 10:37pm
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LOL indeed this should be an easy one! Are you as amazed as I am at the creativity and the talent of some of those people? Although its not MY thing I am still VERY impressed! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 12 2005 at 10:41pm
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They're amazing. And they keep outdoing themselves. I love looking at the show-offs; they're very inspiring (and they do this stuff for so little $$). There are so many knowlegdable people there. Quinnster did a great service starting and runnning that site for so long. I wouldn't know **** about extensions if it weren't for them, really. (I probably still be paying $2000 to have my hair ruined!) :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |