pre-tipped & perma-plugs
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Topic: pre-tipped & perma-plugs
Posted By: Bridget
Subject: pre-tipped & perma-plugs
Date Posted: January 13 2005 at 12:27pm
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I can't seem to figure this one out! Pre-tipped hair with glue, and also pre-tipped with hard plastic (perma-plugs)... which is better and can you make your own perma-plugs? Also should you pre-tip with the glue over the hard plastic??? Thank you!  ------------- It is what it is... |
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Posted By: maneideas
Date Posted: January 13 2005 at 12:51pm
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i dont think it matters what you use. if you do a good job pre-tipping, the strands should not shed. i would say use the glue because melting down plastic and setting it seems more difficult and toxic then using liquid gold. ------------- |
Posted By: EmmaSkye
Date Posted: January 13 2005 at 4:36pm
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Ive bought pre-tips and Ive made my own and even tho it takes a while I will definetely keep making my own. The pre-tips I bought shedded like crazy and the ones I made have hardly shed at all. And I used liquid gold. Im thinking of trying a glue gun next. Em ------------- SHE human hair blend, 18", #4 with Supertape. |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 3:33am
| Hi there everybody, can you help me, I did my first set of pre-tipping with liquid gold last night. I did as it says in Amm's fantastic instructions. Then I cured them over night. This morning before I came to work and went and checked them. I expected them to be rock hard but when I touched the tips they were only slightly hard, they were still bendy and still a little tacky. Did I do something wrong or is that how they are supposed to be xxxx |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 4:56am
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I don't think they should still be tacky, but perhaps they still need to dry out a little. I'd give them another day, then check again. I think it's OK if they're not rock-hard, but they shouldn't be tacky. Perhaps it's a humidity issue, or you used more glue than AMM does. Either way, I'd give it more time. Once the tackiness is gone, you should apply the thin coat of nail glue, let dry again, and then you're ready to install them. Good luck! :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 5:06am
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I just checked out the liquid gold website and on that it says that when dry the glue is still pliable, so maybe that's just how they are supposed to be. Also I noticed that when the glue dries it can still bond when heat activated. Now I'm worrying that when I apply the heat with the shrinkies that the liquid gold is going to bond to my client's hair as well as the shrinkie, any thought on this would be appreciated xxx ------------- |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 5:19am
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According to the previous threads here, that shouldn't happen, but I do think it's best to let the strands cure a little longer and apply the thin nail-glue layer which should harden the tips up a bit. Good luck! :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 5:35am
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Thanks a lot Jenny. Does anybody else's pre-tips stay pliable ?????xxxxx ------------- |
Posted By: clairey
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 5:37am
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The nail glue that you put on the tip is this just the glue for fake nails? Its probably a really dumb question just want to make sure lol ------------- |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 5:38am
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Yep. Just standard nail glue. :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 8:32am
thank you! I will just plan to pre-tip myself and use the nail glue... ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: EmmaSkye
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 9:11am
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I tipped my hair with LG and applied a few with some heat shrink tubing and they didnt melt or bond to my hair. I let the tips go for a good 24 hours and they finally got solid and not tacky anymore. They dont get rock hard. I did layer about a dozen with nail glue but I didnt notice a big difference so I dont think Ill go to the trouble of doing that step in the future. Em ------------- SHE human hair blend, 18", #4 with Supertape. |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 9:15am
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emma, was your heat shrink tubing adhesived lined? because i think the shrinkies are. it didn't get hard even after the nail glue dried? ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: amm
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 3:21pm
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Amanda, Yes, the LG will stay pliable. It is not hard as a rock. That is how they're supposed to dry. If it's tacky, too much glue was used or the strand is too thick and the glue inside did not set up. And yes, the LG will bond when heat activated. I have run so many tests on this stuff and I've been saying all along that it will. I don't know why Emma is saying Liquid Gold does not respond to heat. A light coating of nail glue that is allowed to dry over the surface of the tip will stop any LG from getting onto your hair or the tip. Again -- Liquid Gold alone WILL cling to the hair. Dr. Locks web site specifically says you will need a fusion remover that is specific to the glue you made your strands with. Applying a coating of nail glue over the top will harden the tip (depending how much you saturate it) and prevent any tipping glue from transferrring on the hair. ------------- http://shrinkies.net - Extension Supplies & Virgin Brazilian Hair |
Posted By: EmmaSkye
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 4:24pm
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Sorry Amm, all I know is what happend with my own hair. I tipped mine with LG and used heat shrink tubing with a very hot iron and the tip did not stick to my hair nor did it break down. I took out the heat shrink tubing and used the same tips with my micro links. Em ------------- SHE human hair blend, 18", #4 with Supertape. |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 6:27pm
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Emma, Sorry if you already posted this, but I'm losing track of things. Why did you decide on the microrings instead of the shrinkies? :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: amm
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 6:33pm
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See, that's why I'm getting confused. I'm reading where she's wearing microrings and now I'm reading she's wearing dual wall tubing or at least has some in? I was also under the impression she was using dual wall tubing from cableorganizer and did not have shrinkies at all. Additionally, I thought she was not using a fusion wand but was installing the tubing with a flat iron? And one more thing -- I thought I saw where she was wearing synth wigs and now had installed synth hair she got from the beauty supply store and these experiments were not being done on human hair? My head is spinning. ------------- http://shrinkies.net - Extension Supplies & Virgin Brazilian Hair |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 6:38pm
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Yeah, I think Emma was using the cableorganizer shrink tubing, which wasn't working well, so she switched to the microlinks. And yes, I believe she was using the Futura hair from Sally's, which she liked but felt it was too silky to match her own hair. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the LG and the nail glue adheres somewhat differently depending on the hair. I'm sure we'll figure it out, though.... :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 6:41pm
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Jenny....your brain is like a computer, you keep all this data stored in there and can retreive it at the click of the mouse! LOL ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 6:46pm
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Ha! I wish it were. I might have a good memory when it comes to hair, but unfortunately, I can't remember the fundamental things in life...where I put the keys, what day of the week it is, names of people I've met a hundred times....LOL! ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 6:56pm
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HaHAHA...maybe your hard drive is full ! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 7:02pm
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Yeah, I think you're right. It sucks getting old.... ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 7:07pm
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I know the feeling! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: EmmaSkye
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 9:14pm
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Jenny thanks for keeping all that straight..I decided to go with micro rings because I already had them and cant afford to get shrinkies right now, and the experiment that I did with the heat shrink tubing (from my local electrical supply store) I didnt like it. Ive had micro rings in 3 times now and I like the convenience of them, clamp their in and clamp their out, and Ive never had any residue left to deal with. My scalp is very tender and having to deal with adhesive residue hurts my head so I think Ill stick with micro rings. Em ------------- SHE human hair blend, 18", #4 with Supertape. |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 5:15am
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That sounds good. Are you using the Doc rings or the extendtubes from hairpiece.com? Do you ever have any slippage with them? (Sorry if you've already answered these questions.) :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: EmmaSkye
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 6:55am
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I used up the last of the rings I got from Doc's. Im hoping to order new hair and new rings by the end of this month. The rings Im going to get from hisandher.com, $17.99 for 300 seems a good deal I think. The hair, Im not sure where Im getting it yet Im still looking, there is so much out there its hard to decide. Tho Im pretty sure Im going to stick with the new fiber synth, Im really happy with how this has handled so far, and synth is so cheap you can experiment with different brands and textures without it costing bunches of money. These Ive had in a week now and Ive only lost 3 so I dont think thats too bad. When I had used them with human hair I had way more come out when I brushed. ------------- SHE human hair blend, 18", #4 with Supertape. |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 7:13am
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Em, Im glad to hear that your happy with the synthetic so hair...it gives me hope! Im still waiting for that freetress that I bought to get here...grrrr. I thought it would be here by now *sigh*Keep us updated on the synthetic! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 9:25am
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Interesting. I've heard from several people--and now Emma--that microrings are much more secure with synthetic hair.... :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: EmmaSkye
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 1:40pm
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Way back when I first started messing with extensions I heard that human hair shrinks when it gets wet and thats why it will slip out of the micro ring. ------------- SHE human hair blend, 18", #4 with Supertape. |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 1:42pm
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Yeah, me too. :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |