Question for fusionists!
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Topic: Question for fusionists!
Posted By: BirdOfEden
Subject: Question for fusionists!
Date Posted: January 13 2005 at 11:02pm
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I've been doing some fusion test strands here and there on myself. Couple of questions though for you experienced fusionists. 1. What is your rolling technique? I'm having problems getting it into a smooth rounded roll. I read somewhere that the best mehtod to reduce shedding and fall outs was to place the extension hair under the natural hair and pinch for a second so the glue from the extension hair penetrates through to the natural hair, then slowly start rolling. Is this right? Because it seems that as soon as I pinch the hairs together, the glue starts to harden. So when I start rolling, it won't go completely round, it stays somewhat flattened (hard to explain). Could it be that I need to get a glue gun that heats up to a hotter temp? because the glue is not burning my fingers at all. 2. How far away from the scalp should you glue? I figure that if you glue it too close, it will be too tight to move and will be more prone to breaking the natural hair. But how far from the scalp is ideal? Also, I heard not to glue with the natural hair being pulled in a direction away from the scalp. I read somewhere that it should be glued as if your hair is lying flat (in other word, the down direction). That right? 3. Finally, what size should the bonds be? I heard they should be the size of a toothpick. The natural hair, the extension hair, and the bond itsself. But I also saw somewhere a picture where the section of natural hair being bonded was as big as a dime. Any advice? I'd prefer the smaller the better so they are un-noticable, but then again, that might not be too good for the hair because smaller sections might break easier. Sorry this is such a long post, but I'm just trying to fine tune my technique so I thought I'd ask those more experienced! |
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 13 2005 at 11:32pm
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Bird its really really hard to get the glue penetrated though the strands of extension hair and then into the natural hair before it starts to harden. Thats what causes shedding. ALOT of people can never master this method. The hotpot is such a great help. It really reduces the shedding because you can get the glue to penetrate through the extension strands better. I wouldnt recommend anyone to try using the glue gun to learn hand fusion. Id definitely use a hotpot to start. Its a hard method to learn and I think thats why there is so many bad reviews of fusion. Not everyone can do this technique well. And if you dont do it good you can get alot of damage. And it really is a method that you have to work at to get good at! I for one never got that good at it, there are just to many easier methods out there! If you are determined to use the method....practice practice practice , and try a hotpot! You are correct about attaching them so the bond lies flat in its natural direction, so it doesnt pull the hair and Id say about a 1/2 inch from the root. Yeah the bonds should be small, the smaller the less detectable they are. Toothpick size is a little smaller that most fusion bonds that Ive seen but a dime size is just crazy. I cant imagine trying to remove that! If your glue gun is hot enough to melt the stick then it should be hot enough. But I would think that if you arent used to doing fusion the glue should be hot enough that it would hurt your fingers a bit! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 2:14am
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i agree with you sherrie. the only thing i can add to that is on the parting size.(fusion is what i use) when i part the hair,i use a "duckbill" that i took a sharpie and marked the excact spot of 1/4 in. every parting on the hair is the same size square. i use the "duckbill" to part the section with.the amount of hair you are adding should be the same amount on that parting.fusion just requires patience and practice.there is no room for shortcuts. |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 9:27am
sherrie, what is a hotplate? - makes me think of camping... hehe ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 9:51am
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Do you mean a hot pot? ------------- |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 12:31pm
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oops... yes, what is a hot pot? (thanks!) ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 1:55pm
| its an electric pot you melt the glue in. then dip in the hair. costs about 40 dollars. |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 14 2005 at 5:02pm
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$40 is alot for a hotpot. Heres a link to notjustwig for a hotpot for $18. I think you can get similar glue melting pots in craft stores (sometimes in the floral dept.) for quite cheap too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60188&item=6736072931&tc=photo - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60188&item=6736072931&tc=photo ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: BirdOfEden
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 6:02pm
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Okay, I just came up with another question. When rolling the bond, what exactly are you trying to do with it (besides the obvious)? What I mean is, is the extension hair supposed to wrap around the natural hair, or vice versa? Or does that even matter? ------------- |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 15 2005 at 7:51pm
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Its been awhile since Ive done hand fusion. I was just lucky enough to get them bonded together well before the glue hardened! LOL. Maybe Kristen will answer that one, I think she does fusion. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 16 2005 at 2:20am
| i do fusion, the bond is supposed to wrap around the hair. place the bond under the hair and pinch,then fold the ends and roll. all in one fast motion.when you are rolling it helps to have the palm down. |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 4:46am
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I don't advise getting the hot pots from the craft stores, they don't melt the extension glue, they are not hot enough. I am speaking from experience xxx ------------- |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 6:50am
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you have a point, there are high temp glue and low temp glue sticks. So youd definitely want a hotpot for high temp. Keratin melts at a higher temp. But some (Torain for example, and wax based glue) melt at a lower temp. http://p080.ezboard.com/fhair18356frm6.showMessage?topicID=643.topic - http://p080.ezboard.com/fhair18356frm6.showMessage?topicID=643.topic ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 8:01am
| The craft hot pot that I got was called an eze melt pot. It heated up and slightly melted the keratin glue stick but it didn't fill the reservoir with it, it was just stick around the bottom of the keratin stick, I've ordered one from notjustwigs for $17.99 and I'm going to get a voltage converter as I live in England and then pre-tip my hair with keratin seeing as I find the liquid gold too messy. Has anyone pre-tipped their hair with keratin, does it heat back up in the shrinkie? |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 8:49am
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Amanda, if your are used to doing fusion and dont have the shedding/penetration issues, then I would think that pretipping with keratin would work fine too. Most of the hair that you can buy thats already pretipped is done with keratin. Ive melted down some of my preglued 'nailhair'(the ones that are shaped like a fingernail tip) and used them with shrinkies and they worked fine. I would still use the nail glue over the tip like Amm does. I think it helps to provide a barrier so the glue doesnt melt into your hair. And keeps the strand intact when removing. I think the liquid gold is messy too, but I still think its easier.  ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 9:13am
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Hi there Sherrie, thanks ever so much for the advice, why do you personally think the LG is better than the Keratin xx ------------- |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: January 17 2005 at 10:19am
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I dont necessarily think LG is better. Its cheaper and a bit more convienient(For me). All I need is my bottle of glue and the hair. I dont have to drag out the hotpot & gluesticks/ wait for the glue to melt, and no burning my fingers! (So Im a bit impatient at times!) Yes the LG is definitely messier, and sometimes the striny-ness drives me crazy but I just think its more convienient! Just a preference thing I think! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |