help with hair choice
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Printed Date: February 02 2025 at 3:53am
Topic: help with hair choice
Posted By: darthmom
Subject: help with hair choice
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 12:55pm
 hey, this is a pic of my hair before I was stupid and cut it. I want this same amount of body, not curly, but not straight. (please realize it isn't fixed, and no makeup on so forgive the pic) But I keep looking at all these hair sites, and I am about to give up because the hair is either too straight, too curly, or I am unsure because it is synthetic, or unsure bc it is real, (therefore too expensive) I was hoping if someone is bored, and lookin for somethign to do, they may wanna help me?? please??!! I am happy with the hair pieces I have that are synthetic (kanakelon, or however you spell it) so I don't mind that, I don't think...and acutally, as I sit here typing somethign just occured. Since it is the first time, and I have a big vacation in late april, I should plan on changing the hair before then anyway, so should go with the least expensive choice shouldn't I. And it won't need to last a really long time, so the human hair isn't necessary. Ok so leaning towards synthetic definitely...the most recommended company is plastikhair...right?? how do I pick the color without a color chart. I know the pics on the puter screen aren't reliable. I can dye my hair to match the hair when it comes. Either lighten or darken a bit, so I guess it isn't a big deal... and one more thing. Going with the shrinkies. kalika convinced me of that with those pics. look so good, you can hardly tell even going to the part. kick ass....so, for the first time, will my flat iron be sufficient? I figured I would rather not invest too much, can always buy docs later if I see that they in fact are hot, and I do want to keep doing them. I heard that there are a few problems with the conair flatiron, and in fact I think I already asked this, so forgive me if you are answering it a second time. k, think that is it for now lol. got my card in hand and wanna buy, so thanks for any help before I come out of this experiment poorer and uglier. |
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Posted By: Aeone
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 1:41pm
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hi there :) i've used/been using my 170 watt ceramic conair flat iron to install shrinkies - it's worked fine, and no shrinkies have fallen out, or loosened up. ~~ :) |
Posted By: Syren123
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 1:43pm
| Aeone, that's because you haven't had enough wine while putting in your shrinkies. If you had, they'd be coming out regularly like mine are today! |
Posted By: darthmom
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 1:49pm
oooh good to know aeone. And thanks for the heads up on the wine, since along with cooking with wine, I pretty much like to do everything else with it too. BUT the other half with a penis will be the one doing the work, so I guess I can count in my bottle of chardonnay for that night too  ------------- |
Posted By: Aeone
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 1:55pm
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lol - no, my husband put them in for me, and he's a stickler for perfection ;) i noticed metalgirl said on the shrinkie litigation thread, that she uses a conair trix stix for her M.B. shrink link installs - and those are only what, a 100 watts? i'd steer clear of the wine, tho ...you don't want to accidentally jack up your hair! :(  (mmm...merlot :9) ------------- http://darkrealms.genesismuds.com - http://darkrealms.genesismuds.com |
Posted By: darthmom
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 2:19pm
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oh yeah the shrinkies are supposedly a knock off of MBs so if it works for his should work for these, right?? hopefully....will see. and dont worry dear, I wont spit out my sips at my hair so I am confident I wont catch on fire, but the worry is definitely appreciated ------------- |
Posted By: Aeone
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 3:11pm
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Posted By: zapevaj
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 3:21pm
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The swatches on the color chart are -approximately- accurate. I mean, if it looks blue on the color chart, it won't be red when it gets to you. :) It's just hard to distinguish between shades, and to that end, it's a good idea to talk to someone with a color ring to "reality check" the shades- like "Is Mokka a warm brown or an ash brown?" or the ever-popular "What shades of blonde are lighter than 613?" Sara (the head honcho of Plastikhaar) is incredibly helpful via email (sara at plastikhaar.ch) and seems happy to look up shades for customers. You can also ask a PH customer who has a color ring, such as me or...leia, I think? Who else was it that has a PH ring? Anyway, I and the other color-ring-having person are glad to look up colors for people and tell them what they look like in real life. As far as synth goes, by the way, there's many other quality brands, such as Trimco, Dome, ProStyles, and Hairaiser (though no empirical tests have been done to discover how PH compares to the other brands- I'll be doing that in a bit.) PH gets a fair bit of publicity on here right now because it's the least expensive and has the most colors in its system. But if you'd like to know where to get any of those others, I have all their web addresses and color rings for some, so lemme know. -Rae ------------- http://www.hairalchemy.net - Hair Alchemy |
Posted By: Syren123
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 3:28pm
| Rae, I have a PH color ring on order but it's just the natural shades ring. Also, I ordered a mixed bag of Trimco hair from hair police based on your excellent suggestion on the other board. Thanks for that, btw. |
Posted By: EmmaSkye
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 4:37pm
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"My other half with a penis" OMG I love that, thats going to be mines new name from now on LOOLOOLOL ------------- SHE human hair blend, 18", #4 with Supertape. |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 5:14pm
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Shaman, I can't see your picture; the image is coming across broken right now. As far as the shrinkies, that sound like a good idea. Just keep in mind that how far you can go to the part will also depend on your hair type. Kalika has thick hair, for example, so she can probably camoflague shrinkies better than most, even if they are that far up. With thin, flat, limp hair, like mine, I'd keep them at least 1 1/2 inches away from the part. I'm sure you'll figure it out as you go, though. :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Kimbearly
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 5:30pm
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You can send a hair sample and a company can match it for you. How short is your hair now by the way? ------------- |
Posted By: darthmom
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 5:53pm
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http://i1.bluelight.nu/g/500/40187me.jpg - http://i1.bluelight.nu/g/500/40187me.jpg maybe it will work as a link. wierd, it comes and goes. thanks for the heads up on the info on the hair. I will send a piece to match, good idea. It is pretty darn short right now. back is about an inch and a half at shortest top at 4 and sides about 2 or so at the shortest The wavy synthetic doesn't hold curl real well, isn't that what I have seen a few of you say before? Or is it just that after you wash it you need to re set the curl?? ------------- |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 6:04pm
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Well, I think you have to reset it after washing, but maybe not after each washing (I'll let someone with more experience chime in here). A lot of us have ordered 50mm, too, which is the loosest wave, so maybe the hair stays wavier if you order a tighter curl. A lot of human hair, imo, doesn't hold its wave well, either. :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 6:05pm
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Oh, yeah--the link isn't working; it says "Forbidden"... :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: darthmom
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 6:23pm
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wierd. i can see it on mine.. oh well no biggie. rae, you mentioned a few other synths. The color i am going for is a warm brown. The important features to me would be the same to most, no (minimal) tangling and looks. as natural as possible, I don't like shine. I don't really know what else to worry about. It only needs to last around 6 weeks. If that helps any adviceor links appreciated. i am thinking the color match shouldn't be hard, avg shade of brown should blend with any shades that aren't too dark or light. ------------- |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 7:22pm
SqueezetheShaman do you know what color your hair is based on a standard hair extension color ring? That might help to narrow plastikhaars color choices down a bit. Once you do that then Id probably pick 3 or 4 shades to mix together to get a nice blend. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 7:25pm
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Oh and by the way the plastikhaar 28mm wave is a beautiful wavy style. It might be just perfect for your hair. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: amm
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 7:52pm
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I can't see your photo to compare the color but the bottom hair that's labeled as straight is Plastikhaar's "Mandel"color. It's a beautiful brown. The flash gives the hair extreme shine but it looks no different than very healthy human hair. Really. It's stunning to look at. As far as the wave goes, the 28mm relaxes down to 50mm wave with just one wash. I tried the hot water trick and it stays about 50mm. 
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Posted By: RoseRose
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 8:20pm
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Wow, thats some purdy hair! ------------- |
Posted By: darthmom
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 8:49pm
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sherrie, no, i don't....but I can figure it out I guess. Should I go to a salon, or will sally's have one? amm those are awesome. they look fantastic. so that curl wont last though and wont come back even with the hot water curling trick? oh well will look sweet for a week, and the other curl is nice too. only prob is that looks a little light, so I just need to find a darker brown. ------------- |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 9:20pm
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extension hair color #'s are different from dye/color #s. A salon or beauty supply store that does/sells hair extensions would have a color ring or hair to compare your hair to. If they dont do/sell hair extensions they probably wouldnt have a color ring for it. But maybe we can you help figure it out. Im thinking you are probably somewhere between a #6 and #12 on a hair extension color chart. Probably more in the middle of that about a 8/10. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 9:24pm
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amm the 28 mm curl relaxes down to 50mm after one wash? Hmmm that makes me wonder if the tighter curl patterns will loosen up a little or.....will it completely loosen? ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: amm
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 9:53pm
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I've done 2 washes with it and it loosens up quite a bit after the first one and then there was no change after the 2nd wash. The ends and how they felt after the wash and conditioning is what concerns me though. ------------- http://shrinkies.net - Extension Supplies & Virgin Brazilian Hair |
Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 10:01pm
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Just a side note: The Conair Trix Stix doesn't work that great on the Dr. lock shrinkies. I tried it,and I don't think it's hot enough to melt it properly. The MB shrinkie has much thinner walls to the tube, so it shrinks instantly, and then they recommend that you keep applying the heat for 8 seconds to get the most staying power. ------------- http://www.Godiva-Hair.com - http://www.Godiva-Hair.com http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com - http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 10:05pm
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Hmmm this concerns me too. Did you use any of the spray on products for maintaining synthetic hair? I cant think of what the names of the products are. I havent bought any mantainence products yet, and I dont know for sure what to get, but I know everyone says they are a must have. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: EmmaSkye
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 10:37pm
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What spray on products for synth and from where?? Ill be ordering all my stuff early next week and I want to make sure I get what I need. ------------- SHE human hair blend, 18", #4 with Supertape. |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 10:50pm
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silicone-based shine sprays and 'conditioning' type products for synthetic hair. Probably about anyplace that sells synthetic hair sells the products. I just dont know which ones are the best to buy? ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 11:12pm
| I've used the synthetic spray from Prostyles...it worked |
Posted By: LuckieDuckies
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 11:57pm
| just thought id chip in on my experience *just washed both my samples* the 50m kinda went down to just straight with a very very SLIGHT wave at the very bottom, the 28 definately lost curl but i thought it did a lot better than the 50 *figures i already just ordered the 50* i noticed too that when it was wet the hair looked kinda ermmm dont know how to explain it, frizzy i guess? like they werent clumped into one there were hairs sticking this way and that *mostly on the 28* so i sprayed it with some leave in conditioner and that helped a lot, it dryed pretty good...so i guess whatever kinda wave you want youd want to do the next curl which sara offers quite a few of but only by special order *you have to buy 5 packs of same color/texture* |
Posted By: LuckieDuckies
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 12:10am
| by the way amm what is the hot water trick? maybe i can restore some life in the 50? maybe? aaaahhh i hope so! |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 4:36am
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Standard silicone shine sprays and braid sprays are good for synth. I think you can find them just about anywhere. :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 7:15am
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so if I wanted to order a tighter curl pattern than the 28mm from PH I have to order at least 5 bundles per color? Yikesss.....considering I'd want a few different colors for blending! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: darthmom
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 8:42am
I think she was talking about how to curl synthetic hair by wrapping it in a roller and dipping it into piping hot water. The synthetic hair slightly melts then reforms to that curl in the cool air. I saw a link somewhere on docs site, but I am on a tablet PC right now that is a pain in the rear to surf, so I will let someone else link to it, unless you find it yourself. (although i guess it is a kinda simple concept, unless I am missing something) dont really need the pics and step by step explanation. ------------- |
LuckieDuckies wrote:Posted By: darthmom
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 10:12am
 ok here it is. should work finally. This is a small pic, but can you tell the color. the color I see on the screen looks just like what I see in the mirror. eh actually on second thought the shading makes it tough. I will try to find another pic to put on, if anyone will help me match to PHs hair. okey doke. this is a little better  ------------- |
Posted By: darthmom
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 10:24am
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http://plastikhaar.ch/wholesale/popup_image.php?pID=119 - http://plastikhaar.ch/wholesale/popup_image.php?pID=119 This is the color I am thinking of. And the 28 mm curl. If that seems right, the only thing left is how much?! I think I recall hearing 4 4 oz batches? is that right? So since 100 is around 3.5 oz, 4 of these? *phew* almost done (now lets just hope I don't decide I want more colors in there) ------------- |
Posted By: darthmom
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 10:28am
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http://plastikhaar.ch/wholesale/images/15walnuss.jpg - http://plastikhaar.ch/wholesale/images/15walnuss.jpg or that color Now if I did decide to put in other colors, what would be safe, a lighter and darker color? I dont know anythign about color. how about this blonde http://plastikhaar.ch/wholesale/images/20blond.jpg - http://plastikhaar.ch/wholesale/images/20blond.jpg Thanks for any help. I am sittin here with card in hand lol sorry to be a bother, just afraid to make the decision on my own. here is an example of colors i like, next to the last on this page... http://www.haircandy.net/gallery.htm - http://www.haircandy.net/gallery.htm ------------- |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 11:05am
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StS I really wouldnt want to give an opinion on PH color selections unless I could distinguishyour hair color on a color ring first. I think you look like about a #8 but its hard to tell. If you get the chance to look around on some of the hair supply websites look at the color charts & see what you think. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 6:40pm
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Aww, Shaman, you're very pretty! Synth can also be curled with steam rollers or hot rollers, by the way. :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: Kimbearly
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 9:08pm
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I love your eyes Who are the cute kiddies? ------------- |
Posted By: darthmom
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 9:11pm
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awww thank you thank you thank you!! they are cute aint they? good thing too, because my boys are absolute handfulls lol------------- |