Curling Iron Synth Experiment
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Topic: Curling Iron Synth Experiment
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Subject: Curling Iron Synth Experiment
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 12:16am
Whew....
OK girls. All of these samples (Dome, PlastikHaar, and Ebonyline's Adore Therm Fiber) were heated for 15 seconds each on medium heat with a cheap-o "Solid Gold" metal curling iron that's older than I am (the barrel is 5/8 inch, I'd say). The Dome and the PH were straightened beforehand, so all the hair was straight from the get-go.
Here are the results:



Does this look like what you saw, Rae?
:)
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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 12:22am
Thanks for testing. The Plastikhaar wet result gives me newfound hope. That's outstanding!
What's up with the Ebonyline? That is so not how the WaWa responds.
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 12:27am
Good question. For some reason, this ebonyline hair (at least for me) is super heat-resistant. It doesn't fry, but it doesn't curl much either. Perhaps higher heat and a longer curl time would help, but it seems real stubborn to me. I think Sherrie had better results with it, though.
The monofiber curls surprisingly well when wet; when dry, it gets a bit frazzled and doesn't really curl as much as crimp, if that makes any sense. Does the WaWa do the same when dry--just get kind of limp and frazzled--or does it just not respond at all? I know when wet the Wawa curls amazingly well.
:)
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 12:35am
Yeah I had much better luck with ebonyline. Strange isnt it? Ive also been doing so testing tonight...hehehe and its interesting what Ive learned.....I will post some test results very shortly.......
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Posted By: LuckieDuckies
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 12:46am
so the plastikhaar you can curl with a curling iron?
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 12:55am
It is strange, Sher. I'm like, "Did I get a bad batch....of synth?!"
Anyway, after I curled the samples, I left them to set for about 10 minutes, then ran a brush through them twice each--not vigorous brushing by any means, but I just wanted to get an idea of how the curl would hold. Here are the results:



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Posted By: zapevaj
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 1:38am
Here's mine:

Brushed:

All were done dry, cheapo (but new) 3/4" barrel curling iron set on low, held for 15ish seconds. I noticed that the hair hates to be pulled on as you unroll the iron- if you do that, it just comes out looking bendy. I noticed High heat did curl it sort-of, but it also frazzled it a bit. The best way to unwrap it seemed to be un-roll it a tiny bit (not all the way; that lost the curl) and then let it spiral off the tip, if that makes sense.
Oh, and it's baby-blue Dome Prolin on the left, lavender Plastikhaar in the middle, and white Trimco on the right. Though the colors are all wrong as my house has no direct light.
-Rae
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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 1:40am
The WaWa just kinda lays there all limp when you try it dry (gawd that sounds dirty). The ends do get a little frazzled but not as bad as the Plastikhaar. And a big barreled curling iron does nothing to the WaWa - it needs a small dimension wand. I can't wait til my PH order gets here now.
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 2:09am
same with ebonyline thermal...has to be a small barrell curling iron. I get the best curl from a 5/8 or a 1/2 inch iron, it has to be damp curled for at least 20-25 seconds to get a good curl. Then it has to be cooled without pulling the curl out. Either held in your hand or clipped with a duckbill clip until it cools.
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 7:21am
Those look awesome, Rae. And they look quite uniform, really. Did you notice any difference between the PH, Dome, and Trimco? (My PH came out better than the Dome, but I think it's mostly because it was rolled and removed from the iron better.)
Does anyone know what this stuff is made of--monofiber and therm? I feel like it would be helpful to know what this stuff actually is.
I'm a little scared to try this on my head, but I might do it anyway.
Cross your fingers....
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 4:59pm
I just tried it on my head, and it definitely works. I used a mix of 95% cold water to 5% fabric softener to wet the hair, then rolled it up in a 5/8-inch iron for 10-15 seconds per section; I'd say I did a total of 15 sections for my whole head. I left those sections to cool for about 10 minutes before brushing.
Precision with curling and removing the iron is critical. The hair is not as "forgiving" as human, so if you pull on any one area (as Rae mentioned) or don't roll it in a uniform way, the "flaws" will show on the hair and, unlike with human, they do not brush out easily.
In fact, I was just trying to remove or at least loosen the curl (since what I would ideally want is a loose 50mm-type wave), and it's very stubborn. That curl is in there, and I think I'll have to use warm water or a blow-dryer to straighten it out again. Cold water did not remove the curl. This is quite different from the curl I got from the Caruso rollers, which could've been brushed out fairly easily.
The result I got with the 5/8-inch iron was probably closer to what the 28mm or Wavy Dome is like. Now I need to buy a bigger iron....
By the way, I'm sure this isn't "good" for the hair, but I'm experimenting, so I don't really care right now. It hasn't fried the hair at all, but I'm sure with repeated curling, it will compromise the quality of the hair to some degree--as blow-drying also does.
:)
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Posted By: octmac
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 9:20pm
my wa wa hair just doesn't seem to work with curls at all. water or not. I am wondering if I ended up with a bad batch, i have spilt ends, frizzies and it knots up really easy. it came out a few nights ago. could not stand it. octavia
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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 9:48pm
octmac, would you send me what you don't want? I would like to see what the deal is.
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 9:54pm
Eww.... I tried to curl the PH with a 2-inch jumbo metal iron from Hot Tools. Completely fried the hair. Will try another heat setting, but it just may be too big of a barrell........ :)
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 10:13pm
ok...Im confused! You curled the PH with a 5/8 barrel iron and it curled well. But the 2 inch barrel fried the hair? Why do you think this is?
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 10:35pm
You've got me, Sher--lol! Fortunately, these were only test strands.
But first of all, the heat was too high--the medium setting on this iron seems more like a hot on others. So, I just tried it again on a low setting, and it was still kind of frazzled--not as bad, but more so than I'd want in my hair. Maybe because this iron is SO huge, it doesn't conduct heat as evenly throughout the barrell; also, during removal, it's harder to maintain the structure of those big jumbo waves than the smaller ones. I know the 1-inch worked well for Rae, so maybe 1 1/2 or 2 inch curls are possible, but using this iron would be dicey, I think.
I also did these same tests on the ebonyline, for 30 seconds apiece, and again, nada. Maybe it would work better at about a minute or so.
I think it's much easier to curl--and to destroy--the monofiber than the therm. Has anyone even remotely fried the therm yet? Perhaps that's why it's recommended for those who use curling irons--not because it's more responsive to heat, but because it's less responsive and thus less likely to melt.
What do you think, Sher?
By the way, those PH curls I put in yesterday are phenomenally stubborn. I cannot get them out, in fact, and they're really a little too tight for me. I'll probably take a hot shower and blow it out tomorrow to straighten it out. (I'll be a miracle if this hair lasts past a few more weeks--I've been abusing it so much....)
:)
P.S.--I ust won some velvet rollers from ebay--so a whole new round of tests will be in the works soon....
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 11:10pm
LOL Jenny.....its a whole new world, isnt it? Ill just be glad when we have it all figured out!
It is good news to me though to hear you say the PH curls are stubborn and dont want to come out! For me anyway...its good news! Since I use a 5/8 barrel to achieve the look I usually wear!
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 11:40pm
Stubborn as ****, really--although I don't imagine they will be after they're washed in hot water. I wonder if this is how they create the wave when the hair is manufactured in the first place...with some jumbo industrial iron or steamer with wavy plates...
Am I reaching?
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 01 2005 at 5:35pm
Well, the hot water didn't even remove the curls completely; they relaxed somewhat, but I still had to blow the hair straight. :)
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: March 01 2005 at 5:38pm
so this is good news for me! LOL
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 01 2005 at 5:46pm
You bet!
And have you seen Fina the sexpot, by the way? Now, you tell me those aren't Sherrie-style curls...
:)
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 4:02am
By the way, I sent Sara a sample of the thermofiber; I was curious to see if she's come across anything similar in her travels. I believe she's still overseas, but she'll get it when she returns. :)
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Posted By: FinaFina
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 6:42am
It's Fina the Curly-Haired-Rita-Hayworth-style sexpot to you! he he he.
I AM SO THRILLED to know that the PH curls!! However I think you're right Jenny - you wouldn't want to curl this every day, would you? Too much risk of frying, not to mention those very unnatural looking kinks you can get in it. Next time I may do a mix of 28 and 50 mm curls. . . don't know. . .I sure do love the wash & wear thing. I mean I didn't even DRY mine.
I too could not do a THING with the ebonyonline 613. And I have a BOATLOAD of it. . .anybody need any??
-FF
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 6:53am
Yeah...it's quite a risk, unless you can really get the routine down, I suppose. I think velvet-covered hot rollers would be a safer option; will report on those in a week or so...
:)
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 4:40pm
Fina what color is the ebonyline? If its the right color Id be interested!
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 5:20pm
Yeah, I've got half a bag of the 613 ebonyline, too, if you want it. (Been using the other half for testing.) :)
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 5:24pm
Ill take it Jenny...Ill BM you!
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 5:40pm
Right back at ya! :)
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