ordering perma tips
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Topic: ordering perma tips
Posted By: Joginny
Subject: ordering perma tips
Date Posted: March 07 2005 at 4:17pm
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Does anyone know where I can order perma tips (like those offered from Mark Barrington?) I need a full proof non damaging method - I took out fusion extensions last week my hair is so damaged I had no choice but to redo using shrinkies. I am a licensed cosmetologist, can you order from M.B without attending one of his classes? Can anyone here order for a fellow DIYer? An alternative would be great since I would like to order hair this week and put it in over the weekend if possible. |
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Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: March 07 2005 at 5:04pm
Go to this site. The info is there to fax them your licens and then you can order color ring and get price list. The ones you want are under theatrical and are called EZ Plugs. I just faxed mine today! www.extensions-plus.com ------------- |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 10:17am
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Marie, can you also order the MB shrinkies thru extensions-plus? I think this is the site metalgirl gets her hair from, I could be wrong though... ?? ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: Joginny
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 12:31pm
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Great question! I would like to try MB style shrinkies....Anyone? ------------- |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 2:29pm
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Joggin: check this site out, Marie posted it in another thread... looks very similiar to the MB shirnklinks! www.hairbond.en.ecplaza.net http:// - ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: Bridget
Date Posted: March 08 2005 at 2:31pm
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darn it! that's not the site... Marie help! ------------- It is what it is... |
Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 5:41am
Bridget right site wrong page thats all  . The site is http://hairbond.en.ecplaza.net. - http://hairbond.en.ecplaza.net. I have e-mailed them but you have to deposit in bank in china and it just sounds like a pain so I went to the hair stor I deal with and they are going to get it for me they loved the shrinkys in my hair!!!! They allso called bohyme for me and found out they have pre tipped hair and a stick called U-Bond so you can pre tip youself suposedly this is diferetnt than mega and keritin they are getting me samples so I will know more latter. extensions plus dose not carry shrinkys ------------- |
Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 10:47am
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I'm not sure that EP's "EZ plugs" are the same as MB's Perma Plugs. Are EZ plugs the shoelace tip plugs? If so, they are not perma plugs and will not stay in the shrink link very well. (At least for my they didn't) I tried to use regular shoelace tip plugs with shrink links, and they shed like crazy and came out. I'm going to call MB today to place an order, and I'll ask if the EZ plugs are the same as their Perma Plugs. I really doubt they are the same, seeing how MB likes to keep a tight control on the distribution of their product. ------------- http://www.Godiva-Hair.com - http://www.Godiva-Hair.com http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com - http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com |
Posted By: Joginny
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 12:48pm
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What do you have to do to place an order with MB? I would like to try his version of shrink links? Metalgirl, would you mind ordering for me if I can not place an order directly? ------------- |
Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 4:21pm
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when I called EP they said they had the perment tip and I asumed EZ was it. they are sending a price list. But I think I will call tomarow and make sure it is. I put the hair from short to long in my shrinkys and so far so good I'll be bumed if it sudenly falls out By the way I allso e -mailed doctor locks and asked them to try and get smaller diamiter shrinkys . I told them I can get them in china but would rather get them from them. Maybe some of you could allso make the request I would think they would want to know what we want to BUY! ------------- |
Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: March 09 2005 at 11:02pm
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Joginny, Sorry, but I can't supply you with any shrink links. I signed a contract with them saying that I would not distribute their products. In my opinion, the shrink links is the best strand system on the market, and I would not want to jeopardize my relationship with the company by violating that contract. I asked MB today if the EZ plug was the same as their perma plug, and they said it was not the same thing. However, whatever the EZ plug is might work with shrink links, you'd just have to try it out. ------------- http://www.Godiva-Hair.com - http://www.Godiva-Hair.com http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com - http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com |
Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 1:02pm
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I spoke to EP and got some one more informed on the phone she said no EZ is not the same it is stick hair to use with glue or metal rings.I may have to find some way to get to that class. Metalgirl you arn't having any problems with these? I just dont want to be taken by yet another class that gets me know where. Any info would be welcomed,Thanks ------------- |
Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: March 10 2005 at 11:06pm
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Hi Marie87- I love, love, love the MB Shrink Links system. I think it's the best strand system. The hair ( Indian or European) is from Extensions Plus, and it is always top quality. The perma plugs make the hair reusable and I don't have to fool around with pre tipping. The perma plugs stay in tact, no shedding. The MB shrink links always shrink down to the proper size very easily, they are not inconsistant in their shrinking like the dr. locks ones are. If you clarify the client's hair with dish soap before applying the extensions and heat each link for 8 seconds , then the extensions stay in the hair without a problem for 12-14 weeks. Providing that the client did not let their hair get matted, removal is easy. Just reheat the shrink link and the it slides right off. There is some residue left behind on the natural hair, but MB has a residue remover that you rub on the hair with a cotton square and it cleans up nicely. I've tried a lot of extension systems in the last 14 years, and this one is the best. The money for the class is money well spent. ------------- http://www.Godiva-Hair.com - http://www.Godiva-Hair.com http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com - http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 4:26am
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Hi there Metal girl. I'm really interested in this method. Does Mark Barrington do classes in the UK xxx ------------- |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 4:27am
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Oh yeah and what is dish soap x ------------- |
Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 5:10am
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Amanda, I took the course a few weeks ago and I think MB is only in the US at http://www.markbarrington.com - http://www.markbarrington.com 11275 Sunrise Gold Cir. #L Rancho Cordova CA 95742 tel:800.755.4247 or 916.859.0865 fax:916.859.0862 pics are here http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum/viewthread.asp?page=2&pagesize=20&forum=AMB_AP934431446&id=9300 - http://talk.hairboutique.com/forum/viewthread.asp?page=2&pagesize=20&forum=AMB_AP934431446&id=9300 "Dish soap" is as we know it "washing up liquid"....HeeHee or you can wash the hair 3 times with a clarifying shampoo. ------------- |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 5:23am
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Its flipping typical that I won't be able to get the shrink links over here (bummer). I might start asking my clients to wash their hair in dish soap then. Is there any particular brand that you use xxx ------------- |
Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 5:31am
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I haven't done a client yet so Metalgirl could fill you in with what see uses but I think any dish soap would do. "Dawn" or something,............. in the UK "Fairy Liquid"(they still make that stuff?) Another lady at the class recommended using Aveda's Clarifying shampoo (3 times). ------------- |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 5:34am
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Bm'd you Save a Stray xx My clients sometimes travel to me from quite far away so they don't have time to wash their hair in the morning before they come. Would it be ok for them to wash their hair the night before with either fairy liquid, is that just washing it once with that? or 3 times with the clarifying shampoo xxx ------------- |
Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 5:57am
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They would have to wash 3 times with fairy as well Amanda. I suppose they could wash it the night before but they would have to put NO other product's near their hair!! Very important!! Tell them also to dry their hair as straight as they can, this will make application much easier for you in the long run, even if they have curly hair. You will style afterwards. ------------- |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 6:09am
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Oh my god 3 times LOL. I'd better mail tomorrow's client LOL, thanks ever so much for all your help x ------------- |
Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 6:36am
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No problem Chick xx!!! ------------- |
Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 7:41am
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Amanda~You can just run a flat iron through the hair real quick before application and your install will be easier. That was a tip I got from my teacher. GOOD LUCK!! ------------- |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 8:55am
| Thanks Save a Stray. I already do that anyway, its easier for the finished look I find xxx |
Posted By: Joginny
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 9:31am
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Could someone please provide the link to the perma tips....I'm confused where to find them and could you also answer if they can be used with shrinkies and the quality of the hair - Is it exactly the same hair as used by MB? ------------- |
Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 10:04am
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Joginny~Perma tips are a MB product only (this is the product that is used to tip the ends of the hair only) You can only get these tips made for the hair by MB himself, by taking the MB course then they supply to you. Extensions Plus does not not sell Perma tips. They only sell the hair to MB then he perma tips with a machine that he has on site. Then he supplies the finished product to us. I'm sorry but you won't find perma tipped hair anywhere else but MB. The quality of EP's hair is very good. They sell European, Italian and Indian hair.
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Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 10:53am
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Amanda, I would wash the client's hair right before the application. If they wash the night before, their hair has time to become oily again, and if there's any oil on the hair, the shrink links won't hold that well. I wash 3 times with dish soap, leaving it on for 5 minutes each time before I rinse. I was instructed to do this my MB himself. I don't think professional clarifying products are strong enough. You really want the hair totally stripped of oil, so it's 'squeaky clean'. And no conditioner! MB has a training DVD in the works that stylists can buy in lieu of going to a class. That way stylists worldwide can use their system. Joginny, here's picture of a perma tip. I posted this before and it scans in huge, so sorry for the giant pic.  ------------- http://www.Godiva-Hair.com - http://www.Godiva-Hair.com http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com - http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com |
Posted By: Amanda8beech
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 12:18pm
| Thanks a lot Metalgirl. I will ask my clients to do this. That's very helpful. Do you know when MB will have the DVD's available and what they will entail x |
Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 5:35pm
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Thanks for the info metalgirl. I did write to MB and beg to have a class on this side of the states (with in 7hours would be nice) If not Ill just have to start saving. And untill then I am going to try tipping the stick hair with nail glue I dont know if it will work but Ill give it a try!! ------------- |
Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: March 11 2005 at 7:36pm
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MB is doing a video....? I wish I had known that. Well, I'm sure it will be at a fraction of the price of the hands on course. I have noticed quite a few companies offering a video instead of the courses. That way you will save a lot of money......I might have went that route if I had known about the video. I can't imagine the video being more than a couple hundred. I think that's a much better idea as they can have more people using the system and he will only benefit himself with more sales. Metalgirl, I mentioned to our teacher about using dish soap 3 times first and he said that I should use a clarifying shampoo 3 times. I wonder why they don't tell us all the same thing. He did say it was better to wash right before the application though. I will go with dish soap then, if you got that from MB himself. Do your client's not say anything about using dish soap on their hair?
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Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: March 12 2005 at 12:00pm
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Unless I know the client well, I don't tell them it's dish soap. If they object, then I'll tell them that my goal is to do the job properly so the hair will stay in well, and this is part of the process. Even the ones who know it's dish soap don't care too much if they know it will make thier extensions last longer. MB said some clarifying shampoos are not strong enough, so if you want to be real sure you removed all oils, dish soap will do the trick. It's especially important when the client comes back and you remove the extension residue with MB's remover (which is oily), I think dish soap is the only thing that will effectively get all the oils off the hair. ------------- http://www.Godiva-Hair.com - http://www.Godiva-Hair.com http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com - http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 12 2005 at 12:10pm
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Metalgirl, Just to clarify, I know you've been using the MB system for a long time. Have you been able to achieve any similar results with the Doc shrinkies, or are they just too thick in your opinion? Have you attempted to remove Doc's shrinkies and, if so, how do they compare with the MB in terms of removal ease? Thanks! :) ------------- http://www.beautyaddictmag.com - www.beautyaddictmag.com |
Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: March 12 2005 at 10:01pm
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Hi Jenny, I haven't even tried to do a whole head with Doc's shrinkies because I can't find a tool that will adequately shrink them down to the right size. I even tried to use my ceramic flat iron that heats up to about 400 degrees, and that didn't even do the trick. Like all of you guys, I'm always on the lookout for better, less expensive products, but because Doc's links don't shrink consistantly I can't take a chance and install them on a paying client and have them not stay in the hair well because they don't shrink properly. On the other hand, I have done at least 100 + extension jobs with the MB shrink links, and have never had a problem. That is why I feel that Doc's shrinkies are inferior, because they give inconsistant results. If they worked well then I would use them. ------------- http://www.Godiva-Hair.com - http://www.Godiva-Hair.com http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com - http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com |