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Topic: Real American Hero!
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Subject: Real American Hero!
Date Posted: April 04 2003 at 12:33pm
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>Wonder Woman Picture of Pvt Jessica Lynch: http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030324/capt.1048547229.wva_missing_soldier_chw102.jpg - http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030324/capt.1048547229.wva_missing_soldier_chw102.jpg What is the best hairstyle & color for her? |
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Posted By: rrobey
Date Posted: April 04 2003 at 1:42pm
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I think she's beautiful just the way she is. Being a WV girl myself, I have to say that I couldn't be more proud of anyone from this state!! ------------- |
Posted By: loveshorthair
Date Posted: April 04 2003 at 11:02pm
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Yes, she is a hero. Tells what America is all about - to never give up - to fight for what is right. Though I got only a glimpse of her recently, it looked like her head was shaved. It could of been pulled back though - it was only a glimpse. Did anyone else see that footage? |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 05 2003 at 9:35pm
| I thought the same thing at first but after seeing other footage and paying more closely it was just pulled back and still long. I got excited when i thought she shaved it for the army but she didn't. I would like to see what she looks like in a buzz cut though. maybe even a short high and tight pixie. Jessica is a brave sole and very courages, my heart goes out to her and her faimly. I hope she gets a full recovery and doesn't live in pain the rest of her life, I'm glad the goverment is giving her a full college scholership, its the least they can do for her. God bless her and god bless the USA. Jessica your beautiful. |
Posted By: politicalgirl87
Date Posted: April 05 2003 at 10:40pm
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her head is definitely shaved now, http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030402/170/3pmj6.html - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030402/170/3pmj6.html but I saw a picture of her before her capture, and it didn't look buzzed. I think it was buzzed when she got to the first hospital. What a trooper she is - makes me proud to be an American chick. :) ------------- |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 06 2003 at 1:40am
| You know it could be, I got a picture of her during her rescue and she had hair. http://www.af.mil/photos/030402-D-0000G-001.html - http://www.af.mil/photos/030402-D-0000G-001.html Her mom even mentioned her asking for a hair brush during a press conferance. Maybe it was Jessica idea since she is going to laid up for a while, she asked to have her hair cut off, why would the army do it? Any one else have any thereos? She is hot short hair long hair or no hair, she is cute and a hell of a fighter, people like her make us proud to American Go USA and go Jessica, and god bless all the troops. |
Posted By: demodoll
Date Posted: April 06 2003 at 9:49am
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And she only went into the military so she could become a kindergarten teacher! What a hero. And a beautiful girl. I hope she makes millions writing her story and even a movie about her ordeal. It is quite a story! Her hair does look shaved, at least on the sides. I guess we'll have to wait until she is up to doing a press conference to see what really happened. She did look very nice in her high school picture. ------------- "It is better to look marvelous than to feel marvelous" Billy Crystal |
Posted By: Mike46019
Date Posted: April 06 2003 at 1:24pm
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Didn't the army say she had a cut of something to the head?Maybe they had to cut it to get to that.I have been hearing that she might be up for the CMH?Anyone else heard thisand are the two poeple that survied the ambush?Because they need two others to agree with her story.One more do you think that the Combat Arms will be open to woman now or in the army case they will get more combat training?Becuase I know Marines train their woman harded. ------------- Few men are killed by the bayonet;many are scared by it.Bayonets should be fixed when the fire fight starts.General George Patton Jr.,War As I Knew It,1947. |
Posted By: demodoll
Date Posted: April 07 2003 at 11:45am
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I heard today that she actually shaved her head when she went into combat for convenience. They can't wash their hair for weeks on end so it is easier to do like the guys and not have any hair. ------------- "It is better to look marvelous than to feel marvelous" Billy Crystal |
Posted By: rrobey
Date Posted: April 07 2003 at 3:34pm
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hey demdoll... the only reason i don't think your post is correct is that if you look at the picture that shorthair gave a link for (which was taken during the rescue) you can still see she has long hair. it looks like it's in a braid or something. you can see the end of it lying beside her on the left hand side of the picture. if she did have to shave it, it was probablly for medical reasons. good news about the kindergarten teacher issue though... she has a full schlorship to any public WV college/university that she wants to attend when she gets back. isn't that wonderful??? i think so. :) GO JESSIE! ------------- |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 07 2003 at 4:10pm
| I believe that she is beautiful with or with out hair. I just hope she is not to tramatized by this whole ordeal. Alot of of pows get post tramatic symdrom, and end up going nuts. She will be in lots of pain most likely for the rest of her life. The hair will grow back the wounds will heal for the most part but she is scared for life in the inside, its to bad that our country is so disfunctional that a pretty sweet girl who wants to go to college and make better of her self has to join the armed forces in order to get money for college. She could make a great history teacher, some day she may be in history books, and i hope she makes millions off her horrible ordeal and i hope those damm French *******S are proud of what they helped do to this poor innocent girl who just wanted a college education. Go USA and God Bless you Jessica your a brave woman and a hero in my book. My god help heal the pain of your wounds. From what I saw she looked real cute with the buzz cut. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 07 2003 at 7:02pm
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She didn't have to go to the military to get a college loan or grant. There are far more folks who go to college with grants other than military than with military. If you don't believe me ask any major college. She went to the military because she is brave and patriotic and she probably knows many people that went to the military. Probably family members did too. That is why my husband went into the army years ago, because that is what many of the people he know did. I'm proud of her and she will be just fine. She wasn't a POW for that long and she's a strong girl with a good family, you can tell that. She will get good support. John McCain, one of the few Republicans I like was a POW for many years but he had a good family and friends and look at what he's accomplished. He's even a senator!!!!! No, this young lady will be just fine!!!!! she's a mighty strong girl!!!!! SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Lady Maria
Date Posted: April 07 2003 at 9:35pm
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Melba, I like John McCain too. And I agree, this young woman has a VERY GOOD family, I have seen them on the news, and she is an inspiration and a hero to all of us because of not only what she has been through but her values of patriotism, and wanting to serve the community as a schoolteacher. Very admirable young lady. She seems very mature even though she is only in her early twenties. I think she will be fine, I hope and pray so. Maybe some of you have been watching the news tonight. They are reporting that they have found chemical weapons that the Iraqi government had hidden. ALSO- They are reporting that Saddam Hussein, his ruthless sons, and other top leaders of the Iraqi regime may have been killed tonight by an American bomb, and that "Chemical Ali", Saddam's right hand man who ordered the deadly chemical attacks on Kurdish villages, (therefore his terrible nickname) is also dead. This is good news not only because these guys were brutal thugs, but also because it means the war might be over soon, which means, of course, the terrible killing can stop. And that we, and the Iraqi people, can start the rebuilding process. Let's pray the war is over soon and a better future is in store for the Iraqi people, and all of us! ------------- Lady Maria |
Posted By: demodoll
Date Posted: April 08 2003 at 8:27am
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She is a very fine young lady and a role model for young women everywhere. I hope she gets rich! As for her hair, I just heard on the news that she asked for some hair products so maybe she does still have her hair. I hope so. It would be easier for her to recuperate knowing that her hair looks good since she will undoubtedly get lots of attention. But hair or no hair, she is a very brave lady. ------------- "It is better to look marvelous than to feel marvelous" Billy Crystal |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 08 2003 at 2:21pm
| There have been more innocent people killed in the U.S. led war on Afghanistan and Iraq than the attacks on the World Trade Center/Pentagon. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 08 2003 at 3:51pm
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Aoecean Glyvxx wrote:Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 08 2003 at 6:25pm
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Collateral damage on both sides...whether Iraqi, Afghani, or American that are innocent is still bad. Nothing makes an American life better, a few hundred? A few hundred is still bad and will not make up for the deaths suffered on 9/11. Whether or not this war is right or wrong, I cannot say....Biologically, we're demostrating our animal behavior. Bush, Saddam, Bin Laden...None are pure and all are corrupt. But after we've destroyed Iraq...what next Iran? Don't believe me...Check out modern history... About Jessica, although I am choosing to avoid watching the news. She's pretty, thats all I'll say. I am glad people are actually coming home alive and with the speculated death of Saddam, I hope our troops will be home soon, and blood won't be shed. "Sunlight on my eyelids, morning makes the shadows flee from my mind drawn from the kingdom of dreams I awake"- Oxiplegatz |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 08 2003 at 7:09pm
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No doubt whatsover(especially in light of terrorist camps and weapons of mass destruction discovered in Iraq): Far more people would die if Saddam wasn't removed. Iraq is not "destroyed". Far less damage to Iraq than to Germany and Japan after World WarII. Those countries were rebuilt, new and better governments installed and today Germany and Japan have two of the world's leading economies, nearly immpecable human rights records and successfull democratic governments. If we stay the course in Iraq,(which we need to do), the country will be rebuilt and a successfull democracy will be installed, with undoubtly a much better human rights record(wouldn't take much) than Iraq has had under Saddam's horrific government, and a better standard of living for Iraq's people(again wouldn' take much for an improvement). |
Posted By: Lady Maria
Date Posted: April 09 2003 at 12:47am
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Once again Brent, you make some great points. Very well said Brent and much appreciated! ------------- Lady Maria |
Posted By: hairalways
Date Posted: April 09 2003 at 5:31am
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To everyone who has decided to be against this war. I am also antiwar! I have been praying for the innocent lives of everyone casught in this. However...we as human beings could not let this continue. We had to make him stop or we would once again let history repeat itself like it did with Hitler. If Hitler were alive in this time, and doing what he did back in the 40's, Bush would have stopped him before millions of innocent Jewish, austrian and polish people were terminated. Hussein was doing the same thing! Not only was he planning to eradicate the Western World, but he was raping, gassing and killing his own people! This nutball had to be stopped. He is like the bully on the playground. Eventually someone has to kick his a$$. jmho jacqui P.S. From the pics I saw, I think Jessica would look cute with a short crop - not shaved, maybe like Ashley Judd length. ------------- |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: April 09 2003 at 7:14am
The fact is there will always be weak pansy's like yourself that see everything in grey! But there will also always be strong brave men like OUR president that understand principles and morals and knows that the world is really black and white. While you use shades of grey and use it and words to cover your fear, the brave of the world risk all to protect YOU while you look on with disgust and hopes of their failure so you can yell "see, I told you so". I guess if thugs set up a crack stand in front of your home and all the people and things that come with that sort of stuff made it so potentially dangerous that you felt you could no longer allow your children out into their own yard... you would: a) give them money to go away. b) bake them cookies and be nice to then so they wouldn't hurt you. c) Call Rev. Jackson to come and talk with them. I don't think so... you would call the cops at first sight! ------------- |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: April 09 2003 at 7:17am
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She is a truly cute girl and I hope the best for her. At least for the next year or so we should get to see a lot of her and since it apears that her head has been shaved we should also get to see her in a lots of different styles. ------------- |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 09 2003 at 10:13pm
| Whatever Hal. |
Posted By: tony9999
Date Posted: April 09 2003 at 11:44pm
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Hal, I'm suprised at your lack of tolerance for another opinion, but I don't think either post belongs here. If you want to debate the war, i'm sure CNN or MSNBC has a board to do it... We are here to talk about hair! ------------- Change is good for the soul and fun to talk about! |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 6:59am
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I guess I have had just had my fill of such comments and respond to something someone eles wrote here! Beleive me I have plenty more to say but because this sholud be about hair I stopped as soon as I could. I'm not sorry for my opinion but I am sorry if it offends you. ------------- |
Posted By: Isla Q.
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 8:31am
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The world is so NOT black and white! But I do agree this is not the place to discuss the war and everything that goes with it. Let's make it a hair board again! ------------- |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 2:25pm
If you would rather not talk about it then don't otherwise I feel just fine about adding my 2 cents worth... after 12 years the world of Iraq is VERY black and white. ------------- |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 6:01pm
| My uncle died in Vietnam if you should know...Thats why I don't support this...also I live in a low income neighborhood outside of Oakland. So I'm familar with drug dealings...I don't use it though. |
Posted By: Lady Maria
Date Posted: April 10 2003 at 7:10pm
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I was watching the news tonight on cable. The information coming out of Iraq about Saddam's regime is even worse than anyone imagined. One of the things one of Saddam's sons did was he would use Iraqi women for sex and then when he was through with them, he would cover them with honey and have starving, vicious breeds of dogs kill the women and eat the women alive!!!!! He got a kick out of that!!!!! The many torture chambers in Iraq have been shown to the media by the Iraqi people who were tortured there also. Terrible!!! Saddam ordered the murder of hundreds of thousands of people, tried to kill off one of his minority groups,( the Kurds), stole billions of dollars that was suppose to go to his poor people through the U.N." Oil for Humanitarian Assistance Project" (and the Allies and the U.N. are trying to trace this money now in Arab countries and in Swiss bank accounts), supported suicide bombers, had terrorist camps that we discovered in northern Iraq, used poison gas on the Kurds,etc,etc.etc.etc.etc...... After all of this evidence that is coming out about Saddam and his henchman it is becoming clear that he is one of the most sadistic, demented, brutal, unusually cruel dictators of all time, in a league with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Edi Amin. There is no grey area with someone like Saddam, just like there is no grey area with these other brutal dictators. He was a sadist, a mass murder, a thief of the worst sort who ripped off and killed HIS OWN PEOPLE AND OTHERS, a sick, demented meglomaniac, and so were his sons and his buddies. Of course we were right to have his regime removed, just like we were right in World War II! And the fact we supported him in the war against the brutal, twisted, religious fanatic dictators of Iran in the 1980s is beside the point. We didn't know Saddam would be this bad in the 1980s; most of his crimes he hadn't yet done at that time. We found out later what he was up to, much more information came later about what he was doing, and would do,to people. And if this was about oil, how come we are not attacking many other countries with much oil?( as others have pointed out on these threads). Regardless, it is a very good thing that we got rid of his government, VERY GOOD! To say otherwise insults humanity. When it comes to Hitler, or Pol Pot, or Saddam Hussein there is no grey area. There is no peaceful way to get rid of such a dictator. Only an idiot or a very small child would think otherwise. Saddam and his buddies would continue to lie, deceive and murder, and the U.N.(who never has never stopped any dictator or genocide, as others have also mentioned on these threads)would obviously never have stopped the brutal Iraqi regime. He was playing for time so he could survive to brutalize more people and continue to steal from his people. History will prove us right, as Prime Minister Tony Blair said, just as it proved us right to fight brutal Nazis in World War II. This war is a no-brainer for sure. Of course we are right about this war. In fact with what we are finding out, (and seeing the joy on the faces of the Iraqi people as millions of them are delighted to get rid of Saddam's brutal regime, and cheering, singing and dancing as they destroy his pictures and statues is delightful to watch their joy), we were VERY right to fight this war! I am so happy for the Iraqi people! And so proud of our soliders!!!!! One last thing, the civilian deaths. Most of the civilian deaths were due to Saddam's "Human sheild policy". The bloodshed is COMPLETELY, 100% , Saddam fault and his regime's fault! We were right to do this; the civilized, democratic world is allways right to get rid of this type of dictator! We should have done it after the first Gulf War but at least we did it now! And I hope Saddam and his buddies are as dead as they can be!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- Lady Maria |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 12:05am
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The miliary should get Bush wile their at it, then they'll be my heroes....Ahh, dreams... Oh yeah, the war with Iraq all began with the Treaty of Versaille...check it out sometime. |
Posted By: Lady Maria
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 12:20am
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Aoecean, Everyone knows you are a joker and a clown, you make a point of letting everyone on this board know that. The question is, are you good for anything more intelligent than that? The young men your age that put their lives at risk in the military freeing an incredibly abused and oppressed people (who have lived through a hell under Saddam that you and I in America could never imagine) are worthy of respect. With the ridiculous, childish statements you make, are you? You need to grow up a little and realize life isn't a joke and no we shouldn't kill our president that is absurd and you are not cute. You are only showing your immaturity. I'm sure you can be a little more grownup and a little less of a smart alec if you try. In all sincerity, Maria ------------- Lady Maria |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 3:02am
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Military people oppressed? Well I guess all the jocks in high school who joined Semper Fi afterwards were really oppressed with their SUVs, hot blonde girlfriends, and constant partying. Our president is corrupt..well not the president, his administration. Enron, withdrawl from the Kyoto treaty, 9/11, constant war mongering...But then again, I don't see the wealthy complaning. I live in a low income neighborhood and bet I am feeling the wrath of the Bush administration. For the record, I vote green and when do we as a country care about humanitarian aid. All we want from Iraq is oil...Humanitarian my ass...We knew the Taliban was oppressing the people of Afghanistan in May 01 and even before that because I dated an Afghani girl and we discussed it in November of 2000. This war is just another reality TV ratings gimmick, boost the presidents approval rating..Its entertainment..Our culture has become so saturated with violence that people in the military are glamourized..Since we're also in the age where the old ways are prevelent. My Mother is 40 years older than me and she glamourizes military personnel....A man in uniform is romantic and all those other cultural cliches. Fighting for my freedom? My freedom for what? To blow my money foolishly on SUVs and gobble gobble about celebrities sex lives? These things seem to be the central focus of some peoples lives. Entertainment is entertainment...It isn't a code book, like many people seem to think it is. The people who fought for my freedom were the brave soldiers of 1776 who fought for the declaration of independence. There is a huge difference between freedom and interest. All of the campaigns of the Bush admistrations were based on interest. Clearly none of the people in my area support this war, as many of them have families in the middle east. A friend of mine has a cousin in Afghanistans who's house was blown up. Imagine if we had a villain in our land and a country launched air raids against us. Then imagine how those people feel in Iraq as jet planes blast over head dropping bombs. This is merely my opinion...I am but one of many millions of faceless Americans whose opinion dosen't matter...If we lived in a true democracy, we as a nation would have voted on this war. Instead, we have an ogliarchy...Media, government, and law are all ogliarchies. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 3:10am
| News organizations sell entertainment not information. |
Posted By: Isla Q.
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 4:00am
I think there's some truth to that, there must be so much censorship. BTW, although I don't necessarily agree with everything you said here (mainly the get Bush while they're at it comment, just an early retirement to Florida would be fine by me, I'm sure he'll like it there), I think it's very interesting to see another side of you, Aoecean! And yes Hal, you're right, if I don't want to talk about the war here I shouldn't. That's why I'll try to avoid these threads from now on, like I think a lot of people are. ------------- |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 7:47am
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Aoecean Glyvxx I hide it hard to beleive that all 24% of the nation that doesn't support the war in Iraq live around you but as the say freaks of a feather... The previous poster was refering to the oppressed of people of Iraq. While on that, people who read or watch sources other than the major news outlets have know all of those horrible things for years! Aoecean? Since you had a relative die in war you hate all wars? you know what... I could and would respect you to the max for that stance! But as with you and most like you this is far less about the war and much more about your sour grapes over who our president is!!!!!!!! You and your can not even speak about the war without bashing Bush and crying about the last election! Back to the polls... SINCE 9/11 AT LEAST 65% OF THE NATION, CONSISTENLY, IS TICKLED PICK THAT G W BUSH IS THE MAN IN CHARGE!!!!!!!! Cry yourself to sleep every night until you get another Dem in the white house but until then the real men of this world will protect you and your crack neighbors! ------------- |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 7:56am
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Aoecean Glyvxx.. why don't you email me so I can slam every weak point you have made! I do understand "feelings" people like you but the time come for action people... as for you friend in Afg. though the concept of sacrfice is forgien to you I bet they would gladly give their lives, and did, for the many women of the country that had the stimulation points of there sex organs removed by the tailiban! Lifes2Short1962@yahoo.com if you have the guts! ------------- |
Posted By: Brent
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 3:06pm
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Lady Maria and Hal: I wouldn't worry much about Aoecean or whatever this 3 year old calls himself. If it wasn't for the American military, we would be living under either Nazism or Communism and he wouldn't even be able to express his juvenile opinions. Green Parties are not allowed in totalitarian States like Iraq, Iran, the East European countries under Communism,etc. This fella Aeocean would be in jail in any totalitarian State for his views. .He is just a little punk who knows next to nothing. And Aeocean, if you have ever been to a totalitarian State, and I have, America is most certainly a free and democratic country. We do pretty much as we please within reason and have a better standard of living, even in our poor districts , than people do in a totalitarian state. And it is highly unlikely that Aeocean grew up in a low income neighborhood. studies and statistics show most anti-war people with his views are from privledged elite families. It is also highly unlikely he had a relative die in Vietnam. Most anti-war protestors and Green Party people do not serve in the military nor do their family members. In fact most of them don't know personally many people that have served in the military. This punk is a con artist, it's easy to read his type. Otherwise he would have more respect for military people and more understanding of the difficult, dangerous, and sometimes necessary work they have to do. It is so very easy to defeat the anti-war, anti-America, blame the Western world types in a debate. It's like stealing candy from a baby. Point 1--- NO BLOOD FOR OIL! Right. after we defeat Saddam and the Iraqi thugs we are going to invade the other 27 countries that are major oil producers. Of course. It's only about oil. Point2--- George W. is trying to get revenge for his Daddy. To finish the job on 'ol Saddam. George Sr. initially tried to talk Bush Junior out of going into Iraq, he wasn't particularily enthused about the idea. Point 3---- Why is it that every credible study shows that 90% of Americans agree with the Green Party on many environmental issues and want more development of alternative cars and energy. Yet the Greens, on average, get only 2 to 5 % of the vote. Even in Western Europe, where the Greens are well known and publisized , in indeed the world's most liberal "progressive" countries, they only get about 5% of the vote, (with the exception of Germany where they get appox. 10%). Because the Greens are incompetant and unrealistic. They have no idea of how an economy runs, thgey exagerate and use inflated stats on the environment and they are weak on military and foreign affairs and take freedom for granted and indeed sometimes sympathise with dictatorships and pander to them(example-the Communists throughout the Cold War). Even in the these liberal countries the Greens get nowhere. On economic, social and national defense issues they are assuredly losers, even if people have a desire for more alternative energy and cars. Unless the Greens grow up and deal with overall reality they will never win anything. .......then again maybe they don't want to win, they are maybe content to be losers. Point 4-----the people of Iraq would be better off under Saddam if ewe hadn't intervened, or Saddam would have been overthrown from within, or the U.N. would have gotten him out of office and closed his terrorist canps and restored human rights to Iraq. ...............REALLY. yeah right. we didn't need to fight the second world war either or the Cold war against the Commies. All of those totalitarian regimes would have majically gone away by themselves or with the League of Nations/U.N.. Point 5------ history caused Saddam,etc. The Versailles Treaty, western Colonialism,etc. NICE TRY. most of the world's nations are artificial constructs, multi-ethnic places, like Iraq. Most countries lived under colonialism of one sort or another. Did they all end up like Iraq with Saddam? The successful economies and societies of East Asia as an example? History is a poor excuse for a dictator like Saddam. Their is no excuse for that sort of government. I would say NICE TRY Aeoceon, but it is too easy to defeat your arguments. You're partially-educated, you don't get the complete picture. My guess is you are either quite young and politically naive or one of these left over old leftist, airhead, burntout types. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 3:38pm
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I may own a computer..I drive a used dodge Neon..I work in food services. I live in a drug/crime ridden neighborhood which is 54% Hispanic..I don't go to anti-war protests, the girl I know does but I prefer to go on the internet as I'm not part of the "groove"...and I vote Green since the welfare of the Earth is alot more important than Republicans wanting tax cuts. My Mother is a single parent who works 3 jobs...No father in the picture, no grandparents, and the rest of her family is in the same situation as they live in mobile homes in Nevada. I work a job which pays 15$ an hour, I pay my way through school, and so forth. And I'm not crying poverty...But I'm glad I'm not one of you rich white bred upper class folks with your SUV tanks who thinks they can wipe their ass on me for not supporting your manufactered culture. I work for SBC park in San Francisco and I've seen every aspect of upper class American culture...My Aunt is wealthy and she dosen't support me...Like I see a movie with her once in awhile and she gets me art supplies sometimes. I didn't buy a flag after 9/11...you know why? It was a trend, inconsistent like everything else in America...It was what was hot at the moment and the media milked people like you for everything it was worth. Putting up flags and then taking them down three months later proves one thing, everything is at the moment and on impulse. Similar to the way that the media exploits people... Are my opinions right? Likely no. But realize there is a small group of corporations who are supported by the government who will exploit you as a product anyway they can. Am I pure from this? No, I am like all other Americans...I love to shop and so forth. But there is more to reality than the persuit of materialistic possessions and climing the class ladder. The people of Iraq live in a different kind of world..One where there aren't commercial advertisements 24/7. A world that is closer to the way thinks were, instead of what they are becoming. I think there is a large possibility that this war was merely another way to put McDonalds in another part of the world...When corporations win, everyone else loses. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 4:00pm
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It happened with the Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, France, U.S.S.R., England...It will happen with America, one day. The Earth dosen't care and time surely dosen't care. In 5 billion years, the sun will grow into a super massive red star engulfing the terrestial planets. All great empires must come to an end. |
Posted By: Debbie
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 4:50pm
I donot plan to be around 5 billion yrs from now! Debbie  ------------- There is more to life than hair...Come on---Go get a life!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Lady Maria
Date Posted: April 11 2003 at 7:02pm
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Yes Aeocean, All things come to an end some day, including America, including planet earth, including our solar system. But you have to assume that in the interim that life has some value, and that how humans live have some value. You say you live in a Latino-majority neighborhood. Well I am Hispanic(Mexican-American, 5th generation American), and I grew up in south Florida where more recent Hispanic immigrants from Cuba moved to escape death and an incredibly brutal dictator. These Latinos from Cuba who lost everything they had, don't see America as just "McDonald's" or a land owned by a few corporations; they worked hard, saved their money and started their own businesses. They love this country and are grateful and patriotic and there is nothing phony about their sentiment. And if you weren't so ignorant you would know that 75% of the jobs in America are in small and medium sized businesses and 2/3rds of the wealth is tied up in small businesses and the jobs they create. Simply equating a great, culturally and ethnically diverse society of nearly 300 million people like America, and all of the interesting people, and lives, and interests, and lifestyles, in this country to "McDonalds"; or a handful of big companies; is absurd, unrealistic, and silly. Quite frankly, and this is no slam on the Bay area where you live(Brent has mentioned he lives near San Francisco as well), you need to get out and meet people in other parts of the country a little and see what America is really all about. Spend a few years in the Deep South, or the Midwest, or the Rocky Mountain States, or the Northeast of the U.S. . You will find that the cynical, put-down America, simplistic view of the country that you have doesn't wash in most parts of America. This country has a little more substance than that. This country has given more poor people from more ethnic and racial groups from around the world an oppurtunity to have a decent life where they can feed their kids, educate their kids, and pursue their goals and aspirations than anywhere else on earth. Why do you think so many immigrants have continually moved here for over 200 years and still do today? My attitude is, that there are so many good people who would love to have the oppurtunity to move here that maybe those who are so down on America, who complain about it constantly, and who do little to constructively add or change the country for the better other than to put down the country, maybe you can find a better life in Iran or North Korea or Russia, a life more to your liking. I'm not being insincere in saying this. I'm not saying anyone should be forced to leave the U.S. but if you are so bitter, unhappy, and cynical about this place and have an infinity with how people lived under Saddam, maybe you would be happy in ...say Iran! There are many Iranians who would love to live here, maybe we can make a swap and you can see what it is really like living in a place that really is poor, not like your neighborhood, and really doesn't have freedom, that lives under a dictator, and you would go to jail just for being critical of the government as you have done on this thread. And there is no environmental laws, and like Brent said, no Green Party. I'm not saying love America or leave it, but the obvious question is; why stay somewhere that you don't like and are cynical about and who you blame(wrongly and immaturely) for the world's problems? If I was even a little bit as cynical about America as you are, I certainly would be happy to leave and find somewhere I liked better! That's a no-brainer. Why stay somewhere that you don't really respect or like? I certainly wouldn't. But I do appreciate the U.S., I think we are a great country that can get even better. Constructive criticism is fine but your attitude about America is extremely narrow and isn't what most people in this country are about. By the way, I hope you know you Green Party folks that voted for Nader, got Bush elected. Vice President Gore(whom I voted for) would have easily won the Electoral College, the whole Florida voting fiasco would have been irrelevant, if Nader had not run for the Green Party. It is estimated by voter surveys that better than 2/3rds of Nader voters would have voted for Gore, less than one third for Bush. What gave the Bush the election was not so much the Supreme Court decision on the Florida recount situation, which was questionable, but the Nader voters. That is why I find it ironic that you complain so bitterly about Bush and would praise the military if they got rid of him. You folks got him elected!!! And is there a difference on environmental issues and poverty issues between Bush and Gore? Contrary to what Nader says, there is a difference. It does matter. Gore, I'm certain, would have been much more aware of poverty and the environment and done more constructive things about it than the Bush administration has. Like Brent said, keep voting for someone unelectable like the Green Party, and watch right- wing Republicans keep getting elected not only to the Presidency but also to the Congress and Statehouses. Be a self-righteous, hypercritical, cynical loser, see where it gets you or the country. ------------- Lady Maria |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: April 13 2003 at 8:01pm
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Aoecean Glyvxx - If the US is sooo bad... please tell me where you would rather live? What do you eat? What do you drive your Neon on? Who pays for the police to keep you safe in your crack hood? Who ecomany made your PC and the internet something you could afford to enjoy? Who buys millions of CD players the bring down the cost of these units so you can listen to your favorite band? Who factories and business spend millons on electricty so your home can be powered for 100 bucks a month? All of these things are brought to you by the same WHITE guys you hate so much yet own so much too. Vote green if you like but nothing screems hipocrite like some that yells GREEN... yet turns on his lights at night, puts gas in his car, eats vegitables produced by huge gas sucking tractors!!!!!! ------------- |