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Topic: breast implants
Posted By: princessmonica
Subject: breast implants
Date Posted: June 08 2003 at 6:14pm
how many women here have implants or thinking about breast implants? i do. infact i had them done 3 times. i consider myself a guru of breast implants. if you have any questions ask me  ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
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Posted By: Karen Shelton
Date Posted: June 08 2003 at 7:51pm
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Hi Princess, Thank you so much for the info. Did you go to the same doc for all? Are they silicone or some other material? Any problems with scarring? Wow. Thanks again for sharing. Hugs, Karen ------------- That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger or drives you totally insane. :-) |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 08 2003 at 8:30pm
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i went to the same dr. he in my opinion is the BEST!!! i have saline. i didn't go with silicone because it is more. i think they look just as good as silicone. funny when i woke up from my last surgery i thought he put silicone by accident because we did talk about it. they felt so soft! my scare i can't see. it's under the crease of my breast. you may be wodering if he is the best why did i do it 3 times which is a good question. i had the tear drop at first. then i still wanted them bigger. then i wanted them more together[see wedding pic, i finally got it!] so i switch to round implants. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: tina m
Date Posted: June 08 2003 at 10:47pm
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Wow princessmonica!!! Three times! I am petite, have a pretty good figure I think, and my breasts are about right for my size, but of course I have thought about having larger breasts,-(what women hasn't!!! )-. Part of me wants to be very, very sexy, -(and I think I'm sexy now, but even more so)-!..... As attractive as humanely possible, and having a "barbie doll body", you know big breasts, a little waist and nice hips, is something many of us dream of. I have a couple of concerns;-( money isn't one of them. Kathy Ann my partner is the breadwinner in our family and has said she would pay for me to have implants if I wanted them)-. One concern is- I have heard that if they leak-( silicon implants that is)- it could create health problems. Another concern is that if I don't go with silicon and choose saline, which I heard ARE safe, that saline implants don't feel like real breasts, they are usually harder and don't really feel realistic. I , in fact, know this to be true, because being bisexual when I was younger -( before I was with Kathy)-, I slept with women who had implants and some of them didn't feel like real breasts, at least not to me. That bothers me a little, I like a breast that feels natural, if possible. I also am concerned with how Kathy will react to me. We have a great relationship, and she loves me and my body the way it is. I'm sure she would like me with larger breasts too, but the old adage,"If it ain't broke don't fix it", may apply with me. Still it is a fascinating idea. I have seen short, petite women like myself with large breasts and they are VERY SEXY!!! Concerning my concerns, do you think, Princessmonica and Karen, that they are vaild?  ------------- tina |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 08 2003 at 11:41pm
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tina i'm petite too and i love my implants. of course having concerns is valid. the number 1 thing i can not stress enough is GO TO A GOOD DR.! i ask my husband how they feel and he thinks they feel real. some get them overly to big when they don't have any breast tissue. i think this cause them not to feel real. the tear drop impant doesn't feel as real beacaue they are heavy at the bottom. this was also my fustration when i got implants. i kept hearing tear drop looked more real. [it slopes] well if it gets to heavy it can ''bottom out'' meaning not to scare people, the implant can rip through the skin. so my dr. was worried if i kept going bigger the heavier the implant would be it could ''bottom out'' my only 2 options was silicone or round saline. i was skeptical but i went to the round saline. i was so happy i did! they looked better and felt better! after my surgery i felt them a little and they were soft! i had my mom and nurses feel. they couldn't believe it! my dr. stretch my breast pockets so they would be soft. meaning it made room for the bigger implant. as far as what kathyann woud think. number 1 talk it over with her. [i was single at the time.] see what she has to say. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 09 2003 at 12:37am
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Unless someone has lost a breast to cancer or is abnormally small, I find it sad that women feel that they are so inadequate that they would submit to cutting themselves open for the sake of vanity. Here's the problem -- when so many women artificially wear fake breasts, then natural women look unnaturally small. It's kind of like fake dyes in food. When so much dye is used, we get used to what the fake color is like so that real color of food looks artificial. I am 100% totally natural. I'm not a cow, but I'm not as flat as a boy. Thankfully, I have no abnormalities and am extremely grateful for excellent health and healthy self-esteem to appreciate what nature gave me. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: June 09 2003 at 12:42am
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Princess, I admire you for being willing to share your experiences with all of us and I thank you. I think that if a women wants to change the way she looks through surgery than that is great. I for one am looking into Botox. Thank you again for sharing. Gessy |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 09 2003 at 10:58am
jenifer you can have your views. a lot of women get implants after they have kids. saging, loss of volume etc. some women just want to have their breast size back. for me i don't feel i'm vain. i felt one was a little bigger than the other. it bothered me. i felt my breast were looking smaller to me. i didn't like how i was looking in certain tops. again i did it for myself. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Jennifer wrote:Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 09 2003 at 1:28pm
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>>>>a lot of women get implants after they have kids. saging, loss of volume etc. some women just want to have their breast size back. for me i don't feel i'm vain. i felt one was a little bigger than the other. it bothered me. i felt my breast were looking smaller to me. i didn't like how i was looking in certain tops. again i did it for myself. You're right; a lot of women are surgically altering their bodies, and it's no wonder you didn't feel good about yourself when so many artificial breasts are held up as the ideal. I'll bet a lot of women don't even know that breasts are supposed to slope down a bit as we age!! The problem is that so many fakes are around that some people feel unnatural when compared to the artificial breasts. Part of what makes us beautiful is our uniqueness. If we all wear fake boobs, we'll all look like molded mannequins. We'll forget what real breasts look like! I'm certainly all for empowering women to feel good about themselves, but except for unusual circumstances, it's quite sad when we have to cut open our bodies to do it. As for men, almost every man I know can definitely tell the difference and would rather look at and feel a real breast than a fake one any day. Monica, you seem like a very nice person, and I honestly don't want to insult you, but I really do not want other women to be encouraged to surgically alter their bodies. There are so many ways to feel better about ourselves that are much healthier! ------------- |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 09 2003 at 2:53pm
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jenifer it's people choice. my husband think my breasts feel real. that's not even the point. the reason i started a thread was to give out correct imformation. not start a debate. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: tina m
Date Posted: June 09 2003 at 11:37pm
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Jennifer loves to debate people on every thread, regardless of the subject. This time I have to actually side with Jennifer. As much as I am intrigued by the idea of getting breast implants, I probably won't. Especially since I want to have another child and want to breast feed the child. Also I think my breasts are good enough, they are not too small for me, they are about right. I agree though that it is up to each woman to decide for herself. ------------- tina |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 10 2003 at 9:42am
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Just a few points here. Never have I claimed that women should not have the choice whether or not to surgically alter themselves! Absolutely, I agree. However, the point which no one has addressed is that with so many surgically-altered women, natural women tend to become more self-conscious and also want bigger, "better" breasts, and I find that sad. Why can't we appreciate what nature gave us? I'm all for enhancing appearances with hair color, perms, make-up, jewelry, clothing, and so forth, but cutting open our bodies is a whole new subject. Also, Tina, actually you can breastfeed with implants, though, I think that if you look and feel good now, why mess with natural perfection? {grin} One thing I will not argue at all is breastfeeding. I am THRILLED that you wish to breastfeed any future children! It is absolutely superior to anything a billion dollars could buy to feed your child. Quite simply, you can give your child nothing better than your very own body. No, if you're looking for an argument on not breastfeeding, you'll have to go elsewhere! I don't like to debate just for the sake of debate, but I like to make people think. Far too many of us reside comfortably in our own little hidden boxes and don't like to travel beyond those borders. But we need to grow. I don't think we need to agree on everything at all. But, surgically altering our bodies is a cultural trend that I think is worth addressing. Apparently a lot of women feel inadequate with their bodies (especially after childbirth) and wish to change them. Breast enlargement, by far, is an American cultural phenomenon. It kind of goes back to my point about how Americans feel about themselves and comments made to them..... Btw, I'd rather not be specific, but I have done research on breast implants for an article in a national magazine and spoke to dozens of plastic surgeons and read books and conducted research on the topic. Amazingly, a high school female graduate is almost as likely to get implants for a graduation gift as she is a dictionary. I can't argue that the surgery is extremely common. My big question is: why, oh why are we so unhappy with our bodies? (and to be fair, South America is big on "derriere implants." Breast implants are not at all common there, but having a very shapely rear-end is highly desirable.) |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 10 2003 at 9:44am
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Monica, in regards to your first post. You did you had your breasts done THREE times. If you're willing to discuss it, I'd like to ask: why? Were there problems that needed correcting? Or, did you find that you wanted to be bigger? I promise I won't harp on you for the reasons, but I am curious why you had three operations. ------------- |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 10 2003 at 11:21am
why did i do it 3 times which is a good question. i had the tear drop at first. then i still wanted them bigger. then i wanted them more together[see wedding pic, i finally got it!] so i switch to round implants. there were no problems at all. a comment on breastfeeding you still can like you said jenifer. i will not breastfeed anyway because of other issues. this though again was the WHOLE POINT of my thread to begin with. SOME PEOPLE do what implants or have implants. there are mis inform about things such as breastfeeding. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 10 2003 at 11:41am
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>>>i will not breastfeed anyway because of other issues. I won't ask for specifics, but if you don't mind my asking, are the issues medical or psychological? There is an awfully lot of misinformation about breastfeeding, I've discovered. So many women that I know have been given downright false information from their alleged "educated" doctors. What I find more frustrating is when women don't question it. Far too many of us take one opinion as the true and never bother to find out if there's any more information about the subject. Sigh....... ------------- |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 10 2003 at 12:51pm
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i will not breastfeed because of medical reasons. i am handicap and i take medication. i'm trying to tapper off but it's hard [sigh] if i stopped it completely i could have complications. i have done my reseach and talk with my dr. i do not want to put my baby at risk. i will be on it during my prenancy. which i hate but don't see a choice just trying to tapper off more and more. my breast milk will have the medication in it. therfore i do not want to exopose my child to more medication. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 10 2003 at 2:46pm
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Monica, you've probably already done this, but if you haven't, it would be worth your while to see if there are other types of medication that you could take that wouldn't be as harmful. Often, other drugs are available that won't be as concentrated in the breastmilk but that will treat your condition, but your doctor may not have thought about it. Also, you may try contacting La Leche League International to ask if they have any current research on alternatives. As busy as doctors are, it's virtually impossible to keep up-to-date and know absolutely everything! Even as bad as nicotine is, doctors recommend that if a mom insists on smoking, it's better to breastfeed and smoke than to bottle feed and smoke. The antibodies that are found in breastmilk are made specifically for each baby and cannot be duplicated in any man-made breastmilk substitutes. You may be an extremely rare case where it is advised that no alternatives exist. However, it really would be worth it for both the health of you and your baby to investigate absolutely every possibility. Best wishes! |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 10 2003 at 3:56pm
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[QUOTE=Jennifer]
Monica, you've probably already done this, but if you haven't, it would be worth your while to see if there are other types of medication that you could take that wouldn't be as harmful. jenifer i have TRIED so MANY over the years. infact one made me have to go to the ER because it didn't work right. i got excited i thought this one dr. had an alternitive but he didn't.. he basically said they are all harmful to a degree. Also, you may try contacting La Leche League International to ask if they have any current research on alternatives. As busy as doctors are, it's virtually impossible to keep up-to-date and know absolutely everything! how do you concact them? i'm very interested. thanks for any info. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 8:01am
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Sorry, Monica, I didn't see this earlier. Here's their website: http://www.lalecheleague.org/cbi/cbi.html - http://www.lalecheleague.org/cbi/cbi.html If you don't find what you're seeking, the number is: (847) 519-7730 ------------- |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 12:39pm
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thank you VERY much i will look into it. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 2:16pm
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Be very careful of those people.. they will have you breast feeding until your child get their drivers permit! ------------- |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 2:59pm
| Hal, where did you get that impression? As I understand it, they simply advocate natural weaning. By the way, did you know that the world wide average age for weaning from the breast is four years of age? I have no idea how it started, but Americans have been taught that they shouldn't nurse past infancy. We're kind of prudish with our bodies. After all, breasts were designed for children, you know! |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 7:12pm
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this is a weird question, but is it possible to get a reduction, then implants? perhaps princessmonica would know? (or know where to find out?) thank you!! 
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Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 7:52pm
hi wondering i think you can. i'm not an expert in that but i don't see why not. you could call a plastic surgeon and ask them. good questin though ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: tina m
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 8:59pm
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I breast feed my baby when she was little. I can't imagine breast feeding a kid until they are 4 yrs. old!!!!! Those foreigners are crazy aren't they!!!!!  .------------- tina |
Posted By: tina m
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 9:02pm
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And if you don't believe me, the next time to see a 4 yr. old kid, try and imagine breast feeding someone that big!!! Holy buckets, you would have to have some BIG breasts! Thanks but no thanks!!!! .------------- tina |
Posted By: tina m
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 9:07pm
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Now that is not to say you wouldn't want someone a little bigger like,....ehem....a man , -( or a woman if you are so inclined)- doing some "stuff" with your breasts! But that is using your breasts for a different purpose! I kind of like my breasts, they can be put to such good uses!!! .------------- tina |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 9:33pm
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Tina, milk production has nothing to do with breast size. Women who wear big breasts simply have more FAT than others. FAT doesn't make milk. Milk ducts do. I find it so sad that most Americans have no idea behind the physiology of milk production. Hey, we're Americans. We're PRUDES. We find it gross to nurse a child beyond infancy, even though the benefits are incredible for both mother and child. Women who never nurse a child or who only nurse a short while have a much higher rate of breast cancer. So much for technology. |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 10:03pm
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my mom didn't breastfeed me or my brother. not her choice. my brother was born premature. i was in ICU back then mothers couldn't go in. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 11 2003 at 10:23pm
| Monica, a premature baby's mother's body makes milk that meets the specific needs of that child! Unlike static formula which is the same all the time, breastmilk changes to meet the need of the growing baby. Breastmilk is a live substance. Artificial formula is not. |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: June 12 2003 at 12:57am
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my brother was also in ICU. [the story blows people away] he is older than me you are talking about 34 years ago the didn't let mothers go in like they do now. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: tina m
Date Posted: June 12 2003 at 5:38am
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Here we go again, more lectures from Jennifer on us terrible Americans. I try to make a joke and use a little humour and it goes right past Jennifer and we get another lecture. Do you ever smile or laugh Jennifer, or are you too busy lecturing Americans? .....and if American women are so unhealthy, why is our life expectancy now 80 years? ------------- tina |
Posted By: uzma
Date Posted: June 12 2003 at 6:04am
Tina, honey, you crack up up .I am of the opinion that breasts are primarily for "play" and for attacting the opposite (or same) sex. Milk production is a secondary function. After all, you can only breast-feed kids for a proportion of your adult life...you can spend a great deal more time getting sexual pleasure out of the beautiful orbs. ------------- Uzi |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 12 2003 at 6:44am
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>>>>i was in ICU back then mothers couldn't go in. Yeah, things were fairly primitive back then (today, doctors realize that a preemie's mother's milk and her arms are actually more valuable than some of the technology they to help save the babies; that's why a lot of hospitals accept volunteers as "baby holders" -- literally!). I've never given birth in a medical setting; my kids were born at home. |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: June 12 2003 at 6:47am
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>>>>>if American women are so unhealthy, why is our life expectancy now 80 years? Technology keeps us alive practically forever. That's great in many instances, but if I'm 90 years old and all my organs are failing, I'd really rather not be kept alive by a machine. ------------- |
Posted By: tina m
Date Posted: June 12 2003 at 7:19am
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You missed my entire point Jennifer. Uzma obviously understood what I was saying. I was joking around a little. Lighten up a little Jennifer, we don't need to be constantly lectured, we now as much about things as you do. We are having some fun here, you don't have to be continually condescending to us and overserious. ------------- tina |
Posted By: demodoll
Date Posted: June 15 2003 at 2:41pm
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Sort of changing the subject here but to answer the question about getting implants after a reduction, I have a friend who did that. She had the reduction, didn't like being smaller and had impants--twice. Managed to breast feed her baby and no problems so far. Not that I advocate implants, I don't. I worked in a hospital where lots of plastic surgeons operated and the number of complications who came in were much greater than the ones who came in for the implants. Nothing beautywise is worth risking your health like that. ------------- "It is better to look marvelous than to feel marvelous" Billy Crystal |
Posted By: KISAWA
Date Posted: July 02 2003 at 2:47pm
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Hi girls, I had mine done twice. I used to be a model for lingerie so it was better for my work and then I met my husband who literally fell in love with my "twins" and I had them done again (bigger) after giving birth to our son. My husband is the happiest man (so he says) in the world, he loves them..... I have the scars on the nipple and they are saline... I had them done in Paris where I used to live and the surgeon comes on TV regularly: Dr OHANA. By the way how much did you pay for it? I paid 22000 F (4500$) twice!!  But hey.......that was a good investment, believe me!! ------------- |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: July 03 2003 at 7:17am
And your source of information would be............the La Leche League? ------------- |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: July 03 2003 at 7:54am
No, the World Health Organization! I can't find the direct link from the WHO website, but it's referenced below. Also, a medical journal -- see below: The World Health Organization (WHO) reports that, around the world, the average age of complete weaning (defined as the total cessation of breastfeeding) exceeds 4 years! In Breastfeeding, A Guide for Medical Professionals (1985), Ruth A. Lawrence puts this figure at 4.2 years. http://www.naturalchild.com/robin_grille/right_to_need.html - http://www.naturalchild.com/robin_grille/right_to_need.html Also, another source given was Davidowitz, 1992, not for 4, but for 4.2 years! http://imaternity.com/Advice/postpartum/breastfeeding/article45.asp - http://imaternity.com/Advice/postpartum/breastfeeding/article45.asp As you will see, the four years as a worldwide age of weaning is well-accepted. http://www.parentingweb.com/lounge/ext_nursepage.htm - http://www.parentingweb.com/lounge/ext_nursepage.htm Here are sites with some interesting stats on breastfeeding rates: http://www.kellymom.com/writings/bf-numbers.html - http://www.kellymom.com/writings/bf-numbers.html http://www.mothering.com/6-0-0/html/6-3-0/6-3-0.shtml - http://www.mothering.com/6-0-0/html/6-3-0/6-3-0.shtml The good news is that rates are increasing in the United States, which is excellent news for all of us. Healthier babies grow into healthier, more productive adults. And on a financial level, that only has to help health insurance rates, instead of madly driving them up! |
Posted By: SuperGrover
Date Posted: July 03 2003 at 11:22am
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OK, this is kind of getting off topic, but oh well. I can't imagine having a 4 year old still breast feeding in our society! Maybe in other cultures that would work... It makes perfect sense in cultures where food is scarce. But honestly. We're talking about us here, who live in a society with computers and automobiles and Rice a Roni. If you're out of diapers, you should be eating solid food. You should be in preschool! 4 year olds are old enough to have memories of their experiences in later life. No one should have memories of breast feeding! ------------- "Hair is a part of you. It is not a part of me, because I am a frog." - Kermit the Frog on Sesame Street1b/N/ii ~ ??"/27"/32" |
Posted By: uzma
Date Posted: July 03 2003 at 1:39pm
.....except my ex-boyfriend....... Hey, it's not me..it's my hormones talking .Seriously, I do believe that breasts provide the perfect nutrition for children. But when the gums get hard and the teeth are showing signs of coming through...that's the sign that the baby is getting ready for solid food. I could care less what the "organizations" say on this one. ------------- Uzi |
Posted By: Gally3d
Date Posted: July 03 2003 at 2:16pm
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I'm very glad you guys had few complications from your implants.. but I would never do it because of the risks.. 1. Hardening of the tissue around the implant can make the breast feel rock hard 2. Sometimes this tissue can also shrink & squeeze the implant until it pops 3.the scarring from the placement of the implant may be small, but that's more scar than I'd like on my skin :) 4. Sometimes the implant can twist the muscle around it. talk about PAIN! 5. There are all kinds of issues with leaks/bursts. most of them aren't life-threatening, but just the thought of it is icky to me 6. It doesn't matter what kind you get, they won't look %100 natural. I can pretty much tell by looking that a woman has had implants. There are even fashion trends based on the un-natural effects of implants (*ahem*undercleavage*ahem*) 7. Even implants age with time.. and wear/shift/cause more complications. 8. The risk of getting a BAD boob job from the start is scary as well. The "breasts too far apart" or "cross-eyed nipple" looks are frightening to me, as are the nipple stretching that can sometimes occur with implants. 9. Surgery in general is dangerous. You can die on the table. O_O 10. Most importantly to me... the type of guy I am interested in can be intimidated by large breasts. ^_^ Assuming that a change like that will make you more attractive can be a big mistake. Sometimes you have to ask.. more attractive to WHOM? ------------- |
Posted By: SuperGrover
Date Posted: July 03 2003 at 3:24pm
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ROTFL! Uzi! I had mouth full of water when I read your post, and I nearly sprayed it all over my computer! And Gally 3d, I agree with you. Though I have nothing against people doing it... hey I'd love big boobs, too... I don't think it's something I'd ever do, and those are the reasons why. Plus a few more I hadn't known about yet. Also, I like to keep my body natural as possible. The only thing I've done to it is pierce each ear lobe twice. ------------- "Hair is a part of you. It is not a part of me, because I am a frog." - Kermit the Frog on Sesame Street1b/N/ii ~ ??"/27"/32" |
Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: July 03 2003 at 6:51pm
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SuperGrover, I understand how you feel. Until I had kids, the thought of nursing a child past infancy would have definitely grossed me out! However, it is important to realize that an older child does not nurse like an infant. An infant’s only food is breastmilk, and since he has a small tummy and breastmilk is the most digestible food for him, he nurses often to replenish. As a child grows, he gradually weans from the breast. He starts with a bite or two of solid food. Pretty soon he eats enough food to replace one nursing session. Then, it grows to two. Gradual weaning is definitely best for the bodies of babies and their mothers. Quite often, when women get severe postpartum depression, it’s because they have weaned their children unnaturally and abruptly. The severe dip in hormone levels can cause a deep depression for some women. Also, the older the child, the less often he nurses. A three-year-old may only nurse at night while he’s lying down to sleep (it’s a wonderful way to put children to bed!). He may nurse only once a week or once a month or only once every few months. The key is that the child leads the weaning. My children weaned at very different ages. Children just have different needs, and a smart mom knows that they don’t all fit into the same mold and treats them as individuals! Most “older” children nurse at home. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone nurse a child much past a year-and-a-half or two in public (not that there’s anything wrong with it). The advantage for an older child is that he can wait until later. Many moms have a little password they give the children which means, “We’ll nurse as soon as we get home.” With infants, you obviously cannot do that, and their needs must be fulfilled asap.
Uzma – you’re right! Somewhere between six months and a year, a baby is ready to taste his first solid food. However, breastmilk is still the very best milk for him. What’s really incredible is that the composition of the milk changes as the child’s nutritional needs change. The milk a mother produces when the child is a month old is different than the milk she produces when the child is a year old! If you think about it, depriving a child of his mother’s milk only to give him milk that is meant for a cow makes no sense at all.... As for biting, if a baby bites his mother his nursing, then he isn’t doing it correctly. Unfortunately, many women don’t know how to get the baby to stop, so they abruptly wean the child which then causes far more problems than it solves. Unfortunately, the general knowledge about breastfeeding (in the US) is not adequate. Many doctors and nurses don’t know how to teach women to avoid and overcome the occasional difficulties that may arise during breastfeeding. Many women over the age of 25 were never breastfed as infants, so unfortunately, their moms can’t help either. Here’s what I find very interesting about child raising, though. Childless adults sometimes seem to have stringent views on child raising and are the perfect parents until......they actually become parents! ;-) I’ve been there, too. Once children arrive, one learns how much he never really knew and the unyielding boundaries are completely redefined! |
Posted By: Girl Tia
Date Posted: July 03 2003 at 6:59pm
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Some of us have to have breast implants. Those of us who were born males but are females. The transgender community. Transexuals appreciate the advancements in science and breast implants. Oh yes we do!!!!!!! If I was born a woman would I have had my breasts done????? Hard to say. I don't have anything against it for natural women. |
Posted By: uzma
Date Posted: July 03 2003 at 7:55pm
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Hi Girl Tia I guess breast impants in a trans-gender person may be less risky than in a people who are born females. No issues with milk-ducts, etc. If you don't mind me asking, how successful were your implants? ------------- Uzi |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: August 03 2003 at 11:13pm
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Hi. I've had my implants for almost a year now. It's one of the best things I've ever done for myself.
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Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: August 03 2003 at 11:41pm
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It's funny how people who don't have implants or want them are so concerned with women like me who have them. I feel confident and sexy before and after my surgery. If you don't like them, DON'T get them done! Stop looking. Stop judging. |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: August 04 2003 at 9:04pm
you go girl! that's right!  ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: duke
Date Posted: August 06 2003 at 8:47am
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I normally wouldn't waste my time on this discussion, but as there are issues on which I feel strongly, I have to comment: 1) The idea of a girl (I'm a dude) having implants is disgusting to me. Cutting yourself open in such a private spot and putting in bags of potentially hazardous goop...blaugh. And phoney. The idea of this operation is so disgusting to me that while I think I wouldn't mind having a wife who's had a masectomy (and perhaps a few other physical flaws to boot, if she's otherwise attractive), I'd be really grossed out to have a wife who's had her breasts worked on. If you're hoping to attract guys with your implants, you're probably going to attract the wrong kind of guy (likely a macho, shallow type who sees you as little more than a sexual object). 2) I'm all for breast feeding. I don't want to pressure anyone to do it, I just want to point out that there are antibodies in breast milk that are meant to increase the chance of your child being healthy. But I agree with SuperGrover. I think kids should be weaned while still small and without a long-term memory to remember any pleasurable feelings which went with the feeding. That way, they are less likely to regret it or to later pressure you to breast feed again (I am totally against mothers giving the breast to older kids when a baby sibling is born, no matter how pretilly they beg). ------------- |
Posted By: allie
Date Posted: August 06 2003 at 4:06pm
That's not the reason most women I know would get implants. I don't know anyone who would put theirselves through that much pain just to get more attention from the opposite sex. Anyhow, I also don't agree that the "macho,shallow" type of guy is the kind a woman with implants would most likely attract. To believe that,you'd have to believe that real breasts aren't as attractive as implants,which is shallow in itself. ------------- |
Posted By: DakotaDiva
Date Posted: August 06 2003 at 6:21pm
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Breast enhancement, like any body modification (like my many tattoos) are a matter of personal choice. As long as body modification is done safely, to me it isn't an issue. ------------- |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: August 06 2003 at 11:23pm
with all do respect that is your opinion. would you have a wife that is selfconcious of the way her breasts look that she would not let you see? tv and hollywood gave implants a bad rap. now a day just your averge jane gets implants to make their breasts look better to them. i'm married and ironically my husband is not really a boob guy. by no means he sees me as ''sex object''. he's not shallow ethier. many people i know have gotten their breast done after getting married and having kids. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: duke
Date Posted: August 07 2003 at 9:24am
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Well, I didn't say who did or didn't get implants to attract guys. I just said that it's a bad reason to get implants. One way or another, the thought of this operation is disgusting to me. ------------- |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: August 07 2003 at 11:48am
i think any operation is disgustion i had an operation when i was 7 on my foot to walk better. they took one bone and moved it to the other side. that to me grossed me out. i know that's not you point that operations are all gross. i'm trying to make a point though. people loss the whole point of my thread. it was to was to inform women who made a personal choice to have breast implants or thinking about it, to give them correct information. or to share experiences. instead this thread got turn into women having low self esteem or breastfeeding. would you say alssa milano has low self esteem? to me no. she looks like a self cofident women.------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: allie
Date Posted: August 08 2003 at 7:06pm
It doesn't disgust me at all. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It only affects you and no one else,so what's the big deal?  ------------- |
Posted By: tony9999
Date Posted: August 12 2003 at 8:17pm
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From a man's perspective.. I really don't think I want to be with a woman with implants... Although I have always been attracted to women with large breasts I don't think I'd like to know it's not natural. But I've never been with a woman that had implants so just conjecture.... ------------- Change is good for the soul and fun to talk about! |
Posted By: Twanda
Date Posted: August 20 2003 at 10:41am
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To add my .02 worth to an already long topic, I have seriously thought about it, but decided even a small complication wasn't worth it. The reason I originally wanted implants was to firm back up after pregnancy and nursing. They're just never the same after they've blown up to a DD and shrunk back down to a B. It has been 9 years and they've improved some, but just not what they were. Twanda ------------- |
Posted By: Gord
Date Posted: August 22 2003 at 11:49pm
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I know a woman who has had breast implants and it's fairly common knowledge. Unfortunately, despite success in college and in the business world, she's known as "you know, that woman who had the breast implants." I work with another woman who used to be a topless dancer and guess what everyone thinks of her? Another woman started getting tattoes when she turned 40 and she's got 7 of them so far. Instead of the department director, she's known as that goof with all the tattoes. Three women in the last four months or so had that stomach-reduction surgery. Two were very open about it; one tried to keep it a secret, but it quickly got out. One of the women who was very open about it has been in the hospital at least a half-dozen times since; she told me she's not doing very well. I know it's not strictly a woman thing, but women seem to care about enhancements more than men do. I guess to each his or her own. Personally, I believe God made each of us in his own likeness. Why screw with it? Monica, from the photos I've seen, you're a gorgeous woman. Not that my opinion matters, but if I had a vote, I would have said, leave your breasts alone. |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: August 23 2003 at 3:06pm
thank you for the compliment gord maybe i'll cut my har intead [ just kidding gord i love long hair as much as you] i already have implants. i have for many years.------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: August 29 2003 at 10:59pm
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Oh, p-leeez! Leave God out of this. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: August 29 2003 at 11:03pm
| Oh, p-leeeez! Let God out of it! |
Posted By: tina m
Date Posted: August 29 2003 at 11:12pm
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I'll probably never get breast implants, but it is tempting. I'm short and petite with breasts about right for my size, but it would be fascinating to have larger breasts; a Barbie doll type of figure; ...average hips, little waist, big breasts. I think every woman dreams of having that sort of figure. ------------- tina |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: August 29 2003 at 11:24pm
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Thanks for your support, Princess Monica!
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Posted By: Twanda
Date Posted: October 15 2003 at 2:32pm
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Princess Monica, After my breasts were stretched to twice their size while pregnant and then inflated and deflated with milk for nursing, I'm seriously considering breast implants. No more pregnancies are planned and I'm ready to be firm again. Do you have any advice to give me? I also have a few questions to ask. How long have you had implants? How long does the pain from the surgery last? When does the swelling go down? I don't want to return to work from a few days "vacation" with huge breasts. I only want to go from a "B" to a "C" (maybe small "D"). How did you decide what size? I bought a padded bra and it does make a difference in the way I look. I kind of have an idea of what size I would like to be from what size I liked when I quit nursing and my breasts still had some milk. Thank you for opening this thread and offering your expertise. Anything you can tell me that would help would be most appreciated. Thank you, Twanda ------------- |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: October 15 2003 at 9:03pm
hi twanda on your first question i've had implants since 98 so 4 years. the pain for me only lasted for about 3 days. each person is different though. the swelling honestly i can't remember but your dr. wll go over it how long the swelling last. i do have advice to give go for the D cup. once the swelling goes down and stuff you may wish you have gone bigger if you go with a C CUP. BUT YOUR DR WILL GO OVER WHAT SIZE IS BEST FOR YOU [sorry left the caps on] one of the biggest complaints from women is they wish they have gone bigger. my final advice is please research your dr.! if you have more questions please feel free to pm me ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: October 15 2003 at 10:54pm
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also twanda you mention earlier in a post you were worried about complications. if you find the right dr. there should be none. that's why i so stress to find a very good dr. ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: Twanda
Date Posted: October 16 2003 at 8:34am
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Princess Monica, Thank you so much for responding, just talking about it with someone who has done this before makes it a little easier to think about. How do I check out the Dr.? Where did you get your info on the Dr. you chose? There are 2 places around here I'm considering and both of them are members of the plastic surgery assoc. but that's all I really know. Again, thanks for answering my questions. One consultant I spoke to at one of the Dr's office did suggest going ahead with bigger ones as she said the same thing you did that women usually wish they'd gone bigger. Twanda ------------- |
Posted By: princessmonica
Date Posted: October 16 2003 at 12:14pm
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make sure your dr. is a certified plastic surgeon by asking. my plastic surgeon was tripple certified. because he also does reconstruction surgery. what i did was go through the phone book and called for information about the drs. when i recieved there imformation i was quite impressed that the one dr. was not just certifed but trippled. certfied i knew to go with him. my advice would be check out both drs. by going and having a consultation with them. my dr. had pictures to see what he he did. it really put me at ease. believe me fo my consultation i was so nervous! ------------- http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders - http://www.msnusers.com/monicasanders |
Posted By: joec
Date Posted: February 22 2004 at 11:46pm
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Dear Ladies Thank you for sharing all this information especilly about a topic so private. I am a married man in my 40's and my wife has nice breasts,we both enjoy them.As one of the writers wrote (name I cant recall) As a women becomes older the breast tend to droop.We both thaught about a lift or an implant.What steered us away from it in truth,was the suregons own web sites. I f you go to them they are very detailed with before and after pictures,and they are going to show the best pictures.Even with that we could'nt find a dramatic difference. They also disscussed the surgery in great detail and make no mistake it is surgery.The scars take up to6 months to heal,somtimes they never heal. Bras dont always fit the new breast (allthough they are working on that) but what really turned us off as Uzma mentioned "breast are used sexualy more often than feeding childeren in a lifetime." Thats true, but the surgeon own web site said the patient will have a loss of sensitivtey in the breast,and some even experience total,and irrevesible numbness in the breast. That was enough for us to say if it isnt broke do'nt fix it. If it improves a womens self esteem,or to correct a defomity there nothing wrong with it. It's a personal choice thoe I dont think anyone should critisize,anyone else for it.But for us the risk outweighed the benefits.One other thing the surgeon site said if you lift the breast (women over 40) the results are only temporary. I dont think a women should do it casualy,if its done get all the facts. Joec ------------- |
Posted By: DAYZAHNISE
Date Posted: March 02 2004 at 5:30pm
| I WAS WONDERING HOW MUCH DOES THIS SURGERY COST >>>>>> |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: March 03 2004 at 12:20pm
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My GF got a great set with no lose of sensation or any other side effects for 4,000 dollars. She could not be more happy! ------------- |
Posted By: DAYZAHNISE
Date Posted: March 04 2004 at 9:34pm
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THANKS HAL... I'M THINKING OF GETTING THEM. I WAS TOLD THAT THEY HAVE PAYMENT ARRANGEMENTS. WAS THE 4,000 JUST FOR THE IMPLANTS OR THE WHOLE SUGERY???? ------------- LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT. SO ENJOY IT ...... |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: March 05 2004 at 7:27am
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4000 was the total cost. Spend some time looking at pictures and celeb with the same body type as yours. Get some idea of what you want before you go to your Doctor. They are the professional so you need to put "some" value on their opinions but you should also realize they have a prefence just like every one else. Of the 2 doc my gf saw, one suggested stripper size and the other nice rack for a peitie woman size. You can "try on" many sizes and then pick. Hope this helps. ------------- |