Suggestions: Taming 28mm PH
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Topic: Suggestions: Taming 28mm PH
Posted By: amm
Subject: Suggestions: Taming 28mm PH
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:15pm
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I read Fina's comments about the 28mm and now I'm concerned cuz I bought quite a bit of it.
What if... You opened the bag, folded over the hair into 2 equal sections in length and dipped it in boiling water and allowed it to dry prior to tipping and/or installation? Would this loosen the curl so it wasn't so radical? I'll definitely be getting the 50mm next time after reading of the successful ways of putting the curl back in. |
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Posted By: Syren123
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:21pm
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You'll definitely have to fold it in half and deal with 1/2 of it at a time; otherwise, it's just toooooo long and it gets really tangly. I tied it in a knot at the middle, kept one end in the band and unbanded the other end, and dealt with it from there. That way, there was MUCH less shedding. I think the curl is the culprit. Also, when you take the curl out via blowdryer or however, the hair still has a different texture than I imagine the 50mm does...a tad coarse. Probably from the curling process at the factory.
Next time I'm getting 50mm too, but meanwhile, I like this hair - it's still pretty and looks 100% real. Plus, it's in. |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:22pm
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Yeah, I think that would work well, AMM. You might not even need
boiling water, actually--regular hot water might do the trick, if you
want to take a more baby-steps approach. Is someone planning a new install? |
Posted By: amm
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:24pm
Someone is ALWAYS planning a new install. 
First, the hair has to get here. I'm on pins and needles. |
Posted By: Syren123
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:26pm
| You won't need boiling water. |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:27pm
| Which colors are you using, girl? Are you mixing the WaWa and the PH side by side? :) |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:30pm
| I agree with Syren. You could even take a spray bottle of hot water and dampen the hair by spraying it, then hanging it to dry. :) |
Posted By: amm
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:30pm
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1 x mandel
- Style: 28mm curl 1 x winterblond - Style: 28mm curl 1 x caramel blond - Style: 28mm curl 1 x flieder UV - Style: 28mm curl 1 x seidenblond - Style: 28mm curl I want to do complete PH - nothing else. If the colors aren't what I need, I'll reorder and wait until they get here. I don't want to mix this. I ordered on 2/23. Is it normal to take over a month? Syren, thanks. No boiling water. I'll remember to just keep it hot. |
Posted By: imzadi92
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:34pm
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i agree that it is a different texture... ive had both the straight,
the 50 mm and the 28 mm, and the 28 is definitely coarser/rougher when
straightened. i also have the problem jenny mentioned on another
thread, of the very tips getting that weird fried look, no matter how
careful you are. im beginning to think the wawa is much better, i just
wish there were more colors available in the therms. ~Jenn~ |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:40pm
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Hmm...that seems slow, actually. I usually end up getting the hair
before the expected three weeks. Was something on backorder? You might
want to check in with Sara. :) Those colors look beautiful together--I just checked out the combo on my ring. :) |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:42pm
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Hey Jenn, I'm wondering if the fried thing has to do with the fact that you're cutting a fiber and it's unraveling in a sense, rather than the heat exposure. This is just a theory though. :) |
Posted By: delin
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:43pm
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I currently have the 28mm curl in now. For pretipping I banded both ends and cut it in the center, I only wear my hair below the shoulders so this works well for me. I just snipped little pieces below the rubber band to make my tips. I personally really like the curl pattern of the 28... I love that messy lion mane look. IMO the curlier hair is more forgiving if the application technique is less than perfect...far from it in my case. When I blew it straight I ended up cutting it pretty much even with my own...why do I always end up with the same frickin' hair cut? It is now straight as a stick, but feels good and looks natural. My new order just arrived and I can't wait to tear into that so I can repeat the process all over again.
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Posted By: imzadi92
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:50pm
hmmm could be Jenny. kind of a pain though  hopefully it wont keep unraveling all the way up  ~Jenn~ |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 5:58pm
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Well, that's the thing: It doesn't, which is weird. I've been wearing
the hair for 6 weeks now, and it seems like that weird frizziness is
just limited to the very, very end--like the last 16th of an inch or
so--while the hair directly above it is fine and stays fine. With
human, it'll continue to split all the way up, but this seems very
limited to that final end. That's why I'm wondering if it's heat exposure or just the inevitable result of cutting the fiber. Along these lines, I think it can be helpful to trim this hair--just that tiny bit on the ends--every two weeks or even every week. (Blow-drying or steaming will smooth it out too, temporarily.) But perhaps there's a product or something that would reinforce those ends after cutting. I don't know enough about fibers to speculate, but maybe someone here has some ideas? :) |
Posted By: zapevaj
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 6:29pm
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I doubt it's unraveling; monofiber doesn't do that afaik. It's just
that the ends are where it gets the most wear from brushing, styling,
etc, and it's really hard to straighten out the very ends because, when
you're steaming or blowdrying the hair straight, the important part is
-pulling- it straight as you do it. And on the ends, there's nothing
left to hold on to, obviously, so it can't be pulled taut as you
blowdry it- the best you can do is just blowdry over it and hope it
smooths out, and trim off the very ends if it's intolerably crinkly. -Rae ------------- http://www.hairalchemy.net - Hair Alchemy |
Posted By: mochachip
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 6:54pm
| amm - I ordered on 2/8? about then anyhow and got my shipment yesterday. But she didn't ship til two weeks ago today. Part of my delay was special order bangs and what not. Part that she was short on brunette colors and had to sort out what to substitute. Have you received an email saying that she has shipped it? |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 7:00pm
OK--that makes sense then. I'm going to try to concentrate more on those very ends when I blow-dry and see what happens. Thanks, Rae! |
zapevaj wrote:Posted By: amm
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 7:27pm
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mocha,
I ordered the afternoon of 2/23 at 2:13 PM. I received the email that my order status was: processing. At 2:14 PM (one minute later) I received the email that my order status was: delivered. That was the last correspondence I've received. I just checked my history at Plastikhaar and it says status delivered. I guess I should write Sara? |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 7:42pm
| I definitely think you should. The "Delivered" notification usually comes when she sends it out (or so I thought). If one of the colors isn't available and she needs to order it, that's usually indicated on the invoice, too. :) |
Posted By: mochachip
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 8:32pm
| yeah I'd definitely wtite sara. Cause my hair came economy in just under two weeks. I'm on the east coast but... |
Posted By: FinaFina
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 9:04pm
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WOW AMM!! Listen, don't get me wrong. . .I've had some absolutely *amazing* experiences with this 28mm hair. . .it is eye-catching, head-turning, pure unadulterated GLAM. . .nothing subtle about it. I think I have a few issues going on, which really aren't related to the curliness of the hair, but are more based on: 1) the (very very crappy) cut I gave myself in the hotel bathroom in Atlanta in the early days of the haar 2) the fact that I *have* to wash my hair every other day or else my hair that shows is disgusting 3) integrating the very body-full 28mm with my own body-less bangs/small fine hairs in the front 4) habits of washing my hair in the morning and being in a hurry for it to dry, vs. washing it at night and letting it takes its time, which delivers *gorgeous* results 5) early singe-ing with the curling iron 6) some self-consciousness about "big Texas hair" -- kinda walking that fine line between glam and, well, prom queen? I dunno. . 7) Using the right hair brush. Betty gave me this "Denman" brush which is the only brush I have that works well on it, and, er, I've misplaced it. You will *love* playing with this hair -- just get ready for va va voooooom!! |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 10:08pm
This is so true. I was thinking today that when I get my new haar, I will wash and dry only at night. :) |
Posted By: octmac
Date Posted: March 25 2005 at 2:13pm
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ok, so just how curly is this hair? is there a picture anywhere? I can't seem to find one on the PH website. I am looking for curls :) I think that washing/setting at night is a great idea - much better then rushing/burning/brushing...in the am when my house is going nuts. Octavia ------------- Faces of Pain - One woman's Journey with Chronic Pain www.octavaia@got-to-have-art.com A world without ART is a world without color GOT ART??? |
Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: March 25 2005 at 4:55pm
Here's a good example--Fina's 28mm when it was first installed:
 Fina could tell you for certain, but I'm 90% sure this is before any cutting, styling, or probably any brushing whatsoever. It certainly hadn't been washed or exposed to heat. By comparison, here's Kalika's 50mm, which is a much looser wave:  :) |
Posted By: FinaFina
Date Posted: March 25 2005 at 5:43pm
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It had been brushed quite a bit. But nothing else. GAWD I wish I had touched up my face for that photo!! ;-) |