WaWa problems...
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Topic: WaWa problems...
Posted By: sansconformist
Subject: WaWa problems...
Date Posted: April 20 2005 at 7:51pm
So I did my first install last week after months of lurking and reading everything. Everyone here is so informed! Bonded wefts with LG. Tooks me a long time, bit awkward with all the mirrors and what-not, but overall I surprised myself with how well it turned out. I used 14" WaWa weft, mostly in 1B but with some hight light color thrown in for one or two rows.
Here's the problem: It's starting to mat up. The ends are getting crunchy. Everyone says it looks real, but when I touch it, it reminds me of bad wig hair - not at all flowing and silky like it was out of the package. It doesn't move properly, if you get my drift. I can't imagine keeping it in for a month or more, and I don't even like to wear it out of a pony tail much. It kind of tangles up underneath as it touches my shirt. 
I have to wash my hair every other day, which I know is rather frequent, but I have an extremely oily scalp. I do use fabric softener and shine spray like everyone suggests. So what am I doing wrong? Everyone seems to be having these glowing experiences with WaWa, and amm's hair in the 35+ days post was so beautiful.
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Posted By: mochachip
Date Posted: April 20 2005 at 8:55pm
how often are you combing. With what kind of comb. Using
what kind of spray to lubricate it? I know you say you are using
all these things but exactly what kind how often?
I'm not trying to be mean but these things take al ot of work and i fyou aren't taking proper care of them that can do it.
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Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: April 20 2005 at 10:02pm
I find that I have to steam the frizz out of the wa wa every 4 days or so to keep it soft and nice.
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: April 20 2005 at 10:08pm
So steaming it does help? I have been wondering that myself.
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Posted By: sansconformist
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 7:46am
mochachip wrote:
how often are you combing. With what kind of comb. Using what kind of spray to lubricate it? I know you say you are using all these things but exactly what kind how often?
I'm not trying to be mean but these things take al ot of work and i fyou aren't taking proper care of them that can do it.
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I use the Flasher spray that so many of you guys recommend. As for brushes, I considered the looper one, but since with the wefts it didn't seem like the brush would get caught on them the same way, I went with a Goody brush I found that I like (can't find a picture, sorry) they have a new line designed not to snag thick/curly hair. The bristles are very widely spaced and the base they are mounted to inside the brush handle is retractable, so if they get caught up in hair you can just coax them back into the brush instead of having to tug on your hair. It's rather clever. It seemed like good brush for extensions, anyway, but I have zero experience so maybe I'm still way off here. Even from day one before I had washed off any of the coating from the hair or anything I had to brush the hair out at least at the ends/underneath (carefully) every 3-4 hours. I imagine this would be the case with PH too, but when I had long human hair and it tangled, the tangles still layed relatively flat, but with the synth any muss and it tends to creep up on itself and stick out, so I feel compelled to smooth it down constantly. Mochachip, I don't think you're being mean at all. I'm asking questions to get answers, after all, lol. I've heard very mixed things as to how often you should brush the hair, so I'm unsure about that. Are you saying that I should be spraying the hair every time I brush? If that's what you mean, I hadn't realized. It seems like it would get really shiny that way.
Metalgirl, do you use a steamer like people use to steam clothes? I assume that's what people are talking about when they mention them, but I never have asked.
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Posted By: mochachip
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 9:02am
I use the flasher every t ime I comb. And I comb all the
time. COmb in the morning, comb in the car, comb every time I go
to the bathroom... I don't necessarily comb all of it but if you
catch the problem areas early it helps. I don't use a whole lot
of the spray but i have no problems with shininess. I use a
slightly heavier silicone based spray when I brush but I spray onto the
brush not the hair.
I use a looper at the roots and a few different boar bristles ones on
the lenght and paddle with one of the boar bristles when bllowing
out and...
I think the majority of your detangling activity should be coming froma
wide tooth comb. The brushes are for overall styling smoothing.
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Posted By: mochachip
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 9:06am
ooh and pull it back into a ponytail or something any time you might encounter wind.
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 9:38am
Yeah, I do the majority of my detangling with a wide tooth comb, as
well. I use a big ole plastic brush for the rest, and a boar's hair
brush for final smoothing. I use the looper brush occasionally on the
roots, but I don't use that one every day.
In general, I haven't had the amount of tangling you're describing,
though. I mean, I do brush fairly often--like 3 to 4 times a
day--usually with the Dome Care or Flasher spray, and a lot of that is
"preventative brushing," so I won't end up with tangles. All in all,
though, I find the PH (the 50mm, anyway) and the Dome Classic tangle
less than most of the human hair I've used. I also have virtually no
tangling at all until the first wash--the hair remains almost
completely tangle-free for the first week or so.
Another thing I've noticed is that synth "tangles" differently than
human, at least for me. With human, I'd get a lot of little tangles
that had to be seriously "worked out" of the hair from the ears down.
It was a huge pain in the ass, and it damages the hair, no matter how
careful you are. With synth, the hair seems to get a bit stiff and
"clump up" during the day, especially the last few inches, but one
spritz and a few brushes of the comb, and they're basically gone. With
human, detangling was much more involved and, I think, took more of a
toll on the hair (the extensions and my own).
:)
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Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 9:39am
sansconformist wrote:
Even from day one before I had washed off any of the coating from the hair or anything I had to brush the hair out at least at the ends/underneath (carefully) every 3-4 hours. I imagine this would be the case with PH too, but when I had long human hair and it tangled, the tangles still layed relatively flat, but with the synth any muss and it tends to creep up on itself and stick out, so I feel compelled to smooth it down constantly. |
It sounds like you're finding that your hair tangles up into unsightly bunchy mats, which you smooth down on the outside and try to coax to lie flat.
My own natural hair tends to form mats like these. When I wear it loose, I have to detangle completely every 2 hours at the most, even less if I'm out and about.
The longer you let the tangles go, the worse they will get, and the more damage you will cause when you finally get them out.
Sorry, just part of being a longhair.
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Posted By: kateadreena
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 9:58am
yikes, even if you haven't bee using the spray enough after one week you shouldn't really have these problems at all.. If i were you i'd totally coat the hair in silicone spray and get all the tangles out, the shine should fade in a few hours :) then, in future when you comb, spray it every time
xxx
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Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: April 21 2005 at 10:25am
Yes, I use just an ordinary clothes steamer. I got a Conair Fabric Steamer at Walmart for about $30. I didn't go with the cheapest one because I figured I would be using it on my clients synth hair when I start doing the Prostyles.
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