Wawa vs PH
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Topic: Wawa vs PH
Posted By: MERGUTHRIE
Subject: Wawa vs PH
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 8:38pm
Who out there has has Wawa and Plastikhaar in their hands (and head?)
I am wondering if I should try out Wawa on my next install....
I dont' know why the curiousisty, I should prolly just stick with what I know, but I'd like to hear if anyone has anything to say either way...
Thx in advance!
Mer
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Posted By: mochachip
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 8:57pm
I'm attaching wawa to my head right now. And I've had PH
before. I also used a few strands of wawa on my previous
install.
I had curled that. This I'm leaving straight. I think the
ends frizzed up worse on the wawa but I also think that could be a
function of styling abuse...
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Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 10:26pm
I have to say I really don't like my WA Wa very much. It gets so frizzy in just a few days. I have to steam it every 3 days to keep it decent looking.
I installed a full head of wa wa on my friend, and it also gets frizzy looking quickly.
I should be receiving my custom made PH wefts any day now, Sara shipped them out priority mail on May 1st. I can't wait!
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Posted By: shadowfyre
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:08pm
I have a bunch of wawa 27/613 22 inch. I think it's sooo pretty, and soft....if you want a sample, I can send ya some. I'm looking to sell it actually, lol. I'm hooked on PH for the length as I braid my extensions in, and double it over.
OH! I have never tried PH straight, just the 50 and 28. The wawa I have is straight and compared to 50 or 28 PH, I feel that it is much silkier.
I also have auburn wawa wave on a weft. I think it feels courser than the PH.
Confused yet? heheh.
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Posted By: BirdOfEden
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:12pm
Isn't PH monofiber, meaning it can't be flat ironed or curled with a curling iron? And WaWa is thermofiber so you can do both to it?
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Posted By: MERGUTHRIE
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:18pm
bird, you are correct.
i don't style my hair, i just brush and go, so the ability to use hot tools isn't a big plus to me...
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Posted By: BirdOfEden
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:22pm
Shucks! Anyone know where to get 40" thermofiber?
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Posted By: MERGUTHRIE
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:23pm
you mean thermofiber?
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Posted By: BirdOfEden
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:24pm
LOL, you caught me before I could edit! Yes, I mean thermo!
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 5:16am
BirdOfEden wrote:
Isn't PH monofiber, meaning it can't be flat ironed
or curled with a curling iron? And WaWa is thermofiber so you can
do both to it? |
Yeah, that's the idea. Although some therm wearers have reported that
it responds better to hot rollers anyway, which also work well with
monofiber. You can curl monofiber with an iron, if you're careful
(doing a strand test beforehand and keeping the heat low, etc.), but I
wouldn't recommend doing it on a regular basis because I do think you'd
fry the hair.
:)
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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 6:18am
I had good luck with WaWa straight. I don't like the bodywave whatsoever.
WaWa straight lasted me a good two months installed. My routine with it was washing about 3 times a week with a 50/50 water & fabric softener dunk and rinse in the shower. I always allowed it to air dry and loosely braided it for sleep. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/amm94117/wawacurlyside.jpg - Velvet hot rollers worked real well and so did a curling iron. If the hair had a good curl to it, it even kept a lot of it after many washings. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/amm94117/wawab.jpg - It never went stick straight until I used a flat iron with it.
I liked WaWa. I plan to always have some in my hair bank.
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Posted By: FinaFina
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 10:18am
Re WaWa. First of all. NO BODYWAVE. It SUCKS, it frizzes, it's horrible.
As for the straight: I discovered the secret to curling it with an iron.
I know that some of us (Sherrie, Amm) have been able to get those
gorgeous curls out of Straight WaWa (HSF too). Others of us have
not.
Here is the secret:
IT CURLS ACCORDING TO HOW IT COOLS, not how it heats. I'll post pics
later. I got some GORGEOUS, big, un-curly WAVES out of ALL of my
straight thermofibers (including amm's AD).
Heat it up (i.e. roll it on an iron). If you're like most of us when
you "Unroll" it, it will just sit there having done nothing.
When it's still warm, wrap it around WHATEVER SHAPE you want it to be
in. No kidding - your finger, a large roller, your hand, a pencil. Hold
it till it cools. Let go. Voila. It is amazing.
-Fina
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Posted By: Syren123
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 1:22pm
Exactly. Curling WaWa is all about how it cools. But when you do it right, it curls beautifully and lasts a long time.
The only long thermofiber we've found so far is through American Dream. It's available in 18", 36", and 60" lengths and it's on wefts. And the early reports are that it is ROCKIN' hair.
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Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 3:23pm
Meguthrie, My PH (4 packs) just arrived. I have 4 different brown colors but they actually look kinda reddish. Do you want me to send you some so you can see if you like it? E.
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Posted By: CandiLocks27
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 3:39pm
Hey guys. I have gotten thermofiber from the shop down the street. Its
great hair really, but Its HIGH maintance. I will look up the web site
for it later. Ok this stuff is so silky smooth. I love it. BUT the
problem is it takes FOREVER to curl. I put the heat on for a min
and let it cool in my hands and sometimes it works then others it
didnt. But I had to sit there with each strand for a min each. i
believe that it is only good for weaves that you are gonna leave the
crown/bangs area. This way you only have to style the hair once and it
will keep its shape and all of your hair except the crown and bangs is
in a braid and you can style the crown and bangs with no problems! I
did my moms hair with it and it was wonderful but she had a problem
with it feeling a little fake, But yet again, she had DRY hair. I loved
how it looked! so natural! AND she said that it heald the curl
perfectly after she washed it. It STILL has the curl after taking it
out, washing it again, and shoving it in a bag... Kinda scares me
actually lol. You guys know if there are any brands that curl faster?
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Hugs!
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 4:19pm
I can tell you that my experience with the ebonyline thermal was that at first it was harder to curl (curling iron). It took longer to curl than my human hair extensions that I had the thermal mixed in with. But after about a week or so, it got easier to curl. I had it in for 2 months and by the time that I took it out it was curling pretty much exactly the same as my human hair extensions. The key was letting it cool without pulling the curl.
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Posted By: MERGUTHRIE
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 5:17pm
elvira, i currently use ph, i love it!!!
candilocks, i believe you have to wet the thermofiber b4 curling...
everyone - THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THE CONTRIBUTION!!! This is a hard decision
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 5:52pm
Oh....thanks Mer for mentioning wetting the thermal fiber, I had almost forgotten that! When I first installed it, thats the only way it would curl. I would run my fingers under the faucet then just run my wet fingers down the strand of thermal before curling it. But after a week or so with it in my hair it didnt require being wet to curl.
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Posted By: CandiLocks27
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 9:34pm
wow I didnt know that! *is in awe!* just awsomeness.
*shocked!* it worked!!!!!
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Hugs!
Candi Locks!
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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: May 07 2005 at 9:43pm
Update on bodywave WaWa install I did...
Remember http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/amm94117/danawawa.jpg - this photo?
I saw the hair today and I swear it looks like a loofah sponge hanging around her waist. The point where the extension is attached and half the length of the hair is perfect. It's the ends and about 4 inches up that are horrendous.
Stay away from bodywave WaWa. Yeeech.
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: May 07 2005 at 9:55pm
Ohhh thanks for the update Amm.....now... what to do with the 4 pks of wawa bodywave I have sitting here? Maybe some clipins or ponytail clipons would work out ok with the wawa bodywave
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Posted By: CandiLocks27
Date Posted: May 08 2005 at 12:43am
just curious, HOW LONG does it take the wawa to get all fuzzy and
nasty? Cuz it would be good for a temporary thing dont ya think? my
thermal fiber lasted for like a week I think... But I was Flat Ironing
it everyday. Bah im confused...
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Hugs!
Candi Locks!
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Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: May 08 2005 at 5:05am
sherrie215 wrote:
What to do with the 4 pks of wawa bodywave I have sitting here? |
I was thinking the same thing, Sher. The hair is really pretty in the
bag, I'd love to layer it somehow to create a big ole fall or something.
AMM: That's a shame about the WaWa, because the install was gorgeous.
Candi: I think Metalgirl said the hair got frizzy in a matter of days (like 2). Hmmm....
I just can't understand why the WaWa bodywave is so problematic, when the straight holds up so well.
:)
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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: May 08 2005 at 5:54pm
I'm going in to work a bit early tonight to take the hair out. I'll grab a
photo of it for you guys to see. It's a nightmare. Just the ends,
though. It's weird.
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Posted By: rachelrolen
Date Posted: May 09 2005 at 11:39am
I had WaWa in for a bit but I took it all out because I was having surgery so for a week or 2 I just played around with the left overs..
I had just the straight bulk or whatever so taking a little bit of what AMM had done I wrapped it around various velcro rollers heated up the mixture of water and fabric softner and let them sit in it until it cooled...came out pretty good...I only had a prob w/frizzing when I tried to heat style them and they werent damp enough...over all I liked it...
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