THE BEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME
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Topic: THE BEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME
Posted By: Cheater Of Da Year (2004)
Subject: THE BEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 5:45am
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i was at work last night and my boy said that jay-z was the greatest of all time. i'm like HELL NO. maybe hes the greatest OF HIS TIME, BUT NOT ALL TIME. Personally, i still say biggie is for the simple fact that all his songs on ready to die and life after death are classics......straight bangers, if they were put on a mixtape in todays rap industry.....my god. And the nigga still had room for iimprovement. My man sayin jay-z better cause biggie and pac died and jay-z's talent is better now in his prime then when big and pac were in theirs. I felt like slappin this nigga, but he my man. This is why there's a top 5 list and not a greatest of all time list. Anyway, here's my top 5 and my reasons for them being there..... 1. Biggie - Too deep for some niggas to understand, to where when niggas finally understood him and what he was sayin....it blew they mind. 2. 2pac - I cant stand him......but he is the hardest rapper of all time, not better lyrically than biggie cause he made like 50 times more songs, but they're still being compared to eachother. Somethings wrong wit dat picture. 3.Big Pun - This nigga is the reason Fat Joe, Pitbull, Jo Jo Pelligrino, Chino XL is rappin now. Also, a lyrical genius. 4. LL Cool J - how all of the first 10 of your albums go platinum. Nuff said. 5. Rakim - The 18th Letter Honorable Mentions - KRS, Eminem, Big L, Big Daddy Kane, Jay-Z, Nas, Snoop, Dre, there are others.............ANYWAY WHAT YALL THINK AND WHAT IZ YALL PICS, POST AWAY O YEAH - IF THIS WAS ALREADY A THREAD BEFORE I GOT HERE....OH WELL, I WAS NOT LOOKIN THROUGH ALL 60 PAGES ------------- I'M REPPIN EVERY NICCA IN DEES STREETS TO SCREAM AT ME!!!!!! 
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Posted By: chessbum
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 7:53am
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whats up cheater! (mosdef) is the best ------------- We climb together on this site! 
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Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 8:33am
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nope nope.......tupac shakur is THE greatest of ALL time.....he lyrics were deeper den biggie.....he made mor music then biggie......n im sorry but he is loved mor then biggie......bggie was a betta RAPPER yes.....but tupac got to pplz hearts wit almost ALL of his songs....whereas biggie lik many ota rappers only hav them few songs that really touch u.....juss my opinion ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 - http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 |
Posted By: Cardinal
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 9:53am
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I THIN YOU ALL HAVE SOMETHING CONFUSED...ESPECIALLY CHEATER..... THERE ARE 3 TYPES OF ARTIST. -MC'S -HIP HOP ARTIST -LYRICIST THE GREATES MC OF ALL TIME: RAKIM -HIP HOP ARTIST-JAY-z -LYRICIST-NAS THE BEST THAT THE GAME HAS TO OFFER.....PAC AND BIGGIE WERE GOOD, BUT U HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BOTH RAPPERS WERE MOSTLY ABOUT GETTIN MONEY, AND EVERYONE FOUND OUT HOW SOULFUL TUPAC WAS ONLY AFTER HE DIED....BIGGIE WAS A JAY-Z B4 HE TOOK OVER.....WUT IS SO SAD NOW IS THAT...HIP HOP IS LOOSIN IT'S TOUCH...IF WE HAD MORE CATS LIKE JAY,NAS THE GAME WOULD BE SO COMPETETIVE....NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CLUB SCENE...N E SONG THAT HAS THE THEME ABOUT CLUBS IS A FUC'N JOKE....... HERE'S ANOTHER THOUGHT.....SINCE JAY-Z HAS RETIRED.....NOBODY IS REPPIN BROOKLYN LIKE BIG AND JAY WERE.....SORRY TO SAY IT.....OF COURSE FABOLOUS HOLDS IT DOWN, BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGHT AS TO WHERE IF I SAY THE WORD "BROOKLYN" FABOLOUS COMES TO MIND....WHEN I SAY BROOKLYN"JAY-Z AND BIG COME TO MIND" SAY QUEENS-NAS BRONX-FAT JOE -STAT.ISLAND-WU-TAND -HARLEM(F*CK MASE)DIPLOMATS MANHATTAN-DIDDY.....HES FAKE N E WAY I PUT PUFFY IN THE SAME BOAT AS SUGE KNIGHT...NOBODY WANTS THEM ON THEY'RE RECORD....I MEAN....DIDDY IS NOT EVEN A PRODUCER,ARTIST N E MORE...HE'S JUST A ENTRPENUER....PERSONALLY THE BEST ENTREPENUE IN MY EYES....IS DAME DASH.... THE HIP HOP GAME IS ALL F*CK'D UP....EVERYONE IS SCARED OF BATTLING.....BEEF AND BATTLING R TO DIFFERENT THINGS..... BIG AND PAC-BEEF NAS AND JAY--Z-BEEF JOE BUDDEN V.JAY-Z-BATLE..EVEN THO THEY BATTLED THEY COOL AS HELL AFTERWARDS...C THA DIFFERENCE -------------  http://community.webshots.com/user/cardinal04 - http://community.webshots.com/user/cardinal04 |
Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 10:00am
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1. Tupac n Biggie 2.Eminem 3. Nas 4.Jayz 5. Jadakiss ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 - http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 10:02am
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i aint even gonna get into this ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: Cardinal
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 10:22am
just to let you know....Tupac N. Biggie is not a full name...2 different people, no skitzo's here buddy ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/cardinal04 - http://community.webshots.com/user/cardinal04 |
BlackFate wrote:Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 10:44am
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Posted By: Cardinal
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 10:57am
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lmao ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/cardinal04 - http://community.webshots.com/user/cardinal04 |
Posted By: DH
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 11:13am
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starting line up best hip hop artist- jay-z best lyricist-tupac best mc- rakim bench best hip hop artist-biggy smalls best lyricist-nas best mc-dmx ------------- |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 11:35am
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best rappeR of all time 2Pac dont feel like gettin into why but i always thought biggie was better when they were alive but i was younger then 2pac was more versatile he had so much emotion in his music he just had something special that no one else ever will ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 11:58am
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Posted By: Cardinal
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 11:59am
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biggie was lyrically too much for 2pac, but when 2 pac spoke...everyone listened...he started a movement, but no one in tha game is steppin up to finish it. ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/cardinal04 - http://community.webshots.com/user/cardinal04 |
Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 12:07pm
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cuz no one in the game has his talent or is willin to except pplz lik eminem n nas......every1 else juss wanna mak club records.....if u juss got into a fight wit u homie n u pissed as hell u gonna turn on drop it lik its hot or nething lik that?.....im surprised at snoop.....instead of doin wat he used to do he b makin all these club records too.....evn eminem n nas r not wat there were in the beginnin......instead of effectin the game they lettin the game effect them.....until pplz undstand wat tru rap sounds lik, hip hop is gonna kepp declinin as far as its value ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 - http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 |
Posted By: Cardinal
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 12:18pm
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I'll tell u this...i have more respect 4 eminem now.... look at his videos....Mosh and Toy Soldiers...takes the bigger man to try and squash some beef, plus nobody else would have made a song that adresses the president head on...mad props to shady ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/cardinal04 - http://community.webshots.com/user/cardinal04 |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 12:37pm
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i think the only think that holds em back from being top 5 dead or alive is all the dumb songs and videos he makes like "just lose it" i know the white people eat that stuff up but c'mon u cant mix sh*t like mosh and toy soldiers with bs like "just lose it" he needs to stop with the silly songs it was all good in the beginning but im sick of it when is dude gonna stop wearin costumes and acting like an @ss i mean i know he's versatile but i wouldnt want those kinda tracks on my Potential GOAT resume feel me? ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 1:20pm
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word.....hes still tryin to live out slim shady....n evn though he sells good wit iit his bes music is wen hes rappin from "Marshal Mathers" point of view.....thats the cleanin out my closet n stan n i am n all his songs bout kim (superman).....slim shady was good bak den but ur right u dun want thos on ur resume ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 - http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 |
Posted By: 360Mike
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 1:38pm
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his whole style is changing. he used to get into his music n relly spit his feelings..who else do u know would call they moms a ****** on a cd and wish her to hell??ova the years hes been like changing his whole way of rappin...if u hea him in the lean back remix he dont even like get into the music he sounds like hes bored as hell...i know it sounds confusing wat im sayin but if u could understand it then youll know exactly wat im mean... ------------- us niggaz hea in NY yea we always rushin, but our waves stay spinnin cuz we Bru-Bru BRUSHIN |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 1:59pm
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yeah i know what u sayin but his albums all have the same formula "silly song" 1st single.....just lose it, without me serious single...mosh... single about affect of music on his life... toy soldiers, 8mile road so his style aint really change ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 2:05pm
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LOL.....yea u right......his formula is the same.....but then again if ur him why change it if eery album is seliin platinum plus.....if it aint broken, dun fix it.....but thats the thing....its all about money now.....n artists r bein changed by it ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 - http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 |
Posted By: Science Allah
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 2:12pm
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Rakim ------------- |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 2:16pm
em could say "a tisket, a tasket, i lost my yellow basket" and still go plat he dont even need a single white people eat that sh*t up ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: Cardinal
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 2:34pm
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Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 2:37pm
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.....so where's the disagreement? ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: Cardinal
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 2:38pm
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Posted By: The Bigger Picture
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 3:22pm
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You gotta remember that slim shady, and eminem are two different persona's so thats how u see where hes comin from. ------------- I ride spinnas I ride spinnas |
Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 3:50pm
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eminem is brokin down to: Marshal Mathers ( i favor his music) Eminem (he makes great hits i.e. Lose Yourself....that song still gets me) Slim Shady: mostly juss to make fun of pplz n make white (but also blacks n whoever lissens to his music)people laugh ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 - http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 |
Posted By: brooklyn_stand_up
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 4:27pm
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The most lyrical is jay-z right now but his commercial side holds him back from being up there with pac, biggie and a FEW others Em is crazy when he wants to be if he would just be marshall mathers i would put him as maybe the vest alive ------------- i call snitches steinbenner they always putting a new face in pinstripes- buddens |
Posted By: Cheater Of Da Year (2004)
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 5:39pm
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I AINT FEEL LIKE MAKIN A NEW THREAD SO WHAT YALL THINK BOUT JAY-Z - CEO OF DEF JAM, HE ANNOUNCES IT OFFICIAL NEXT MONTH ------------- I'M REPPIN EVERY NICCA IN DEES STREETS TO SCREAM AT ME!!!!!!
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Posted By: Twista
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 5:41pm
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im not sure ------------- |
Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 5:42pm
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iono....doubt it'll effect much less he signs sum big artist or suttin ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 - http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 |
Posted By: O 514 GUTTA [O5G]
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 5:56pm
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no no tupac is the best rapper of all time verybody knows that he has the best song of all time hit em up. 1.tupac 2.biggie 3.nas 4.gay homo 5.snoop dogg ------------- hard brush dax wave and groom brush till you get dizzy |
Posted By: KiNgIzCoMiNbAcK
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 7:59pm
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2pac no question bout it ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/hyfee_boi - WeBsHoTs aLBUM 
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Posted By: realistkilla
Date Posted: December 08 2004 at 8:20pm
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rakim is yall heard microphone fiend dat cat was flowin all through da song yo. ------------- neva leave home witout ya brush |
Posted By: Spinna
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 7:02am
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Shawn Carter sh*ts on all rappers and leaves a trace of manuer And he just passed puff as the game's top entrepeneur I almost had to hit a Nas d*ck rider with shells that shine like Lets Jam But the silencer got stuck so it was a real Def Jam ay fab i like dat lol ------------- 
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Posted By: shawty
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 9:41am
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-2pac -biggie -hove n i got mad luv fo a rapper that most of yall prolly gonna diss-ja rule ------------- |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 1:34pm
thanks ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: JiggaMan
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 2:47pm
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I was in Queens today on the bus (yes the bus, not in the car) and I passed 142st and Foch Blvd. Then I was like oh sh!t I seen that before. Then I remembered Young Foch had that up in his avatar. So I take it that you live on Foch Blvd right FAB? ------------- Official Dream Team Member http://www.dreamteam360.net/ - Dream Team Website "DatYoungStar"...going to Hollywood and bringing Brooklyn along son |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 2:53pm
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yeah my nigga foch and 141 u was on da Q40 lol wtf was u doin in my hood lol dont worry.......i be on da bus too with my gold metrocard its all good ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: JiggaMan
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 2:56pm
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yea the Q40, I was going to the Holiday Inn for job interview ------------- Official Dream Team Member http://www.dreamteam360.net/ - Dream Team Website "DatYoungStar"...going to Hollywood and bringing Brooklyn along son |
Posted By: gifted1
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 3:00pm
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lol u dont wanna work @ dat holiday inn my nigguh da sh!t across from da airport righ righ off da belt parkway jus make sure u mind ya business @ work my nigguh alotta WORK go through dat telly my nigguh. 3 minus 2 ------------- M.S.G OFFICIAL DREAMTEAM MEMBER http://dreamteam360.net - http://dreamteam360.net  H.H.F. Help-A-Hater Foundation Gifted1-President Young Foch-Vice President |
Posted By: JiggaMan
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 3:01pm
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nah it wasn't for the holiday inn. It was for airport security ------------- Official Dream Team Member http://www.dreamteam360.net/ - Dream Team Website "DatYoungStar"...going to Hollywood and bringing Brooklyn along son |
Posted By: gifted1
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 3:09pm
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o no doubt TSA huh i got peoples dat work dere lol dey jus b fuccin wit people lol good luck my nigguh 3 minus 2 ------------- M.S.G OFFICIAL DREAMTEAM MEMBER http://dreamteam360.net - http://dreamteam360.net H.H.F. Help-A-Hater Foundation Gifted1-President Young Foch-Vice President |
Posted By: JiggaMan
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 3:11pm
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yea TSA ------------- Official Dream Team Member http://www.dreamteam360.net/ - Dream Team Website "DatYoungStar"...going to Hollywood and bringing Brooklyn along son |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 3:36pm
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damn son.....tell me why i failed the TSA test i thought that sh*t was mad easy maybe cuz i had like 3 hours sleep the night b4 and didnt put the type of answers they was looking for in part 1 its all good but i gotta wait 6 months b4 i can take it again but imma go hard with the MTA see what happens ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: gifted1
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 3:40pm
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my pops work for transit das a real good job in da hood my pops drive trains he started young like i guess youll b startin so when he retire he gon b right da same sh!t wit u my nigguh da MTA is da best civil job in da city my pops make like 2g's a week he work 10 hrs a day 5 days . good luck my nigguh 3 minus 2 ------------- M.S.G OFFICIAL DREAMTEAM MEMBER http://dreamteam360.net - http://dreamteam360.net H.H.F. Help-A-Hater Foundation Gifted1-President Young Foch-Vice President |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 3:42pm
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yeah but it aint easy gettin them jobs and u gotta wait for the test to come around ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: gifted1
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 3:43pm
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yup yup aint dem test like every 6 months. well either way good luck my nigguh. 3 minus 2 ------------- M.S.G OFFICIAL DREAMTEAM MEMBER http://dreamteam360.net - http://dreamteam360.net H.H.F. Help-A-Hater Foundation Gifted1-President Young Foch-Vice President |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 3:49pm
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thanks yo jigga, how the interview go? ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: JiggaMan
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 4:11pm
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I passed everything just waiting for the drug test results next week...I should be fine LOL ------------- Official Dream Team Member http://www.dreamteam360.net/ - Dream Team Website "DatYoungStar"...going to Hollywood and bringing Brooklyn along son |
Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 6:08pm
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Posted By: BlackFate
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 6:10pm
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n godd luck jigga....if u do good how fast it gonna take for u to start? ------------- http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 - http://community.webshots.com/user/blackfate1056 |
Posted By: 1800FabFlow
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 6:21pm
1. what does puff have going for him that jay dont jay got a clothing line a record label president of def jam armadalle part ownership of the nets his own club not to mention he's the best rapper in the game RESPECT so i dont know wtf u talkin about 2. its just a rhyme......why u over-analyzing sh*t ------------- http://dreamteam360.net/forums - http://dreamteam360.net/forums we're the real wavers stay |
Posted By: JiggaMan
Date Posted: December 09 2004 at 10:17pm
I don't even know man...Now-a-days these companies be on some waiting list crap. But I'll prolly try to get my files in Los Angeles too since I wanna go out there to act ------------- Official Dream Team Member http://www.dreamteam360.net/ - Dream Team Website "DatYoungStar"...going to Hollywood and bringing Brooklyn along son |