+*pretipping for shrinkies?*+
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Topic: +*pretipping for shrinkies?*+
Posted By: plastikhaar
Subject: +*pretipping for shrinkies?*+
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 12:35pm
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hi there
ok we are experimenting here : ) theres just one thing i dont get... the pretipped and bonded sample of got from my hairdresser (hairdreams) and the bonds from sherry are definatly made of keratin. but keratin gets liquid while heating it.. guess thats bad for shrinkies thou... so what to use to pretipp for shrikies? liquid gold melts aswell and thats all fine with microrings i guess help! ; ) sara ------------- need some great hair? http://www.plastikhaar.ch/shop - plastikhaar hair.supply |
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Posted By: mochachip
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 1:21pm
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the shrinkie provides some insulation between the heat wand and the
tip. The tip will probably deform some but not fall apart int he
shrinkie. also shrinkies only need to go to ~120 C to shrink. So depending on the melting temperature of keratin (which I can't find) I use liquid gold on my tips for shrinkies and I agree that the tip deforms but even the ones that I'm too lazy to coat in nail glue come out nearly the same as they went in. does that help at all? |
Posted By: Scotchyroo
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 1:21pm
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We generally use craft glue or liquid gold, and then cover the tip with Nail glue to keep the LG or craft glue from melting into the hair. The most important thing is that the glue not be flammable. By the way, just got a massive box of hair from you. Can't wait to dive in. Thanks!! |
Posted By: plastikhaar
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 1:30pm
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ahh i see!!
so i have to tipp the keratin tipps in nail glue that they can be used for shrinkies? seems reasonable! sara p:s good to see the hair arrived : ) ------------- need some great hair? http://www.plastikhaar.ch/shop - plastikhaar hair.supply |
Posted By: mochachip
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 1:41pm
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you don't have to do a layer of nail glue. but it does seem to
help some with keeping the tips intact. but some people think it makes
them slip out of the shrinkies. For selling to people I'm not sure you'd want your stock all covered in nail glue cause them people couldn't use it for fusion... For doing an install yourself you probably want to play around and see what works for you. There's a big surprise! |
Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 3:11pm
| I have tested the plastikaar with fusion (keratin glue) and it doesn't hold up very well. It doesn't seem to want to fuse with the plastikhaar so if you did a full head install with plastikaar and fusion it wouldn't last very long. Also my hairdresser tested plastikhaar and keratin tips in extentubes. They all fell out as the plastikhaar and keratin seemed to fall apart. I'm going to tip all my plastikhaar for my install with rings and shrinkies with latex and nail glue, that seems the way to go with plastikhaar xxx |
Posted By: plastikhaar
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 4:20pm
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so...
keratin isnt working with synth. hair? : / ------------- need some great hair? http://www.plastikhaar.ch/shop - plastikhaar hair.supply |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 4:50pm
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Sara, I marked the tips that I sent to you ( Or so I thought I did )Some of the tips were keratin tipped then either had a top layer of LG or nail glue. The others were tipped with Aleenes tacky glue and top coated with LG or nail glue. I'm not sure about the keratin/synthetic issue? I hadnt tried the keratin with synthetic hair. |
Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 6:30pm
| Definitely not, it doesn't seem to want to hold very well and just pulls apart when moist x |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 6:39pm
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Ah yes I remember Sara. Some of the pretips, the small sized tips were just keratin tipped (those were from my human hair supplier in Korea) I just wanted to give you samples of the different sizes. It would be nice to buy pretips similar to Mark Barringtons pretip. Those dont need any extra top coat of anything and dont melt under the shrinkie and stay intact on removal. Although if you do start offering a pretip for sale it might be best to just let the cutomer do their own top coat, since some use LG some use nail glue......... |
Posted By: mochachip
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 6:40pm
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see I think that's weird cause I didn't do a whole bunch of them but I didn't have any trouble. I just used some cheap stuff from the BSS. they were for rings for whatever that's worth. |
Posted By: Gina E
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 10:21pm
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I've had the same experience with human. It may be the glue(or lack there of) I'm not sure I'm putting enough on...too much and your bonds are big. It's a trade off! If my memory serves me right you use x10 too Amanda. Maybe that has something to do with it? |
Amanda8Beechwoo wrote:Posted By: plastikhaar
Date Posted: June 11 2005 at 12:57am
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hmmm okay
this seems to be tricky i guess! how about if i do some samples and somebody will test it? ------------- need some great hair? http://www.plastikhaar.ch/shop - plastikhaar hair.supply |
Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: June 11 2005 at 3:28am
| Yes I do use the X10 stick Gina, they are brill with the human but not with the plastikhaar, they cool really quickly so they don't melt the plastikhaar but then they don't seem to be very strong. That would be great Sara, the real test would be for somebody to wear a few tipped in their hair to see what happens x |
Posted By: zephyr
Date Posted: June 11 2005 at 5:20am
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hi I'm going to experiment with different hair extension sticks to do the pre-bonding, before using shrinkies... and I will get back to you with the results... ------------- http://www.nailsnsuch |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: June 11 2005 at 5:23am
Thats a wonderful idea Sara. And who better to give honest and helpful feedback than some of the hairboard customers!
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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: June 11 2005 at 6:40am
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Well I've just started tipping the plastikhaar with the craft glue that I've been using with the human that's been very successful with the shrinkies and I've got a guinea pig that's willing to try it out so I'll post pictures as soon as I've done the install and keep you posted of the results x |
Posted By: LauraR
Date Posted: June 11 2005 at 9:35am
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I am tipping some PH right now! but I am putting LG as a top coat |
Posted By: Gina E
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 2:26am
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Oh...Oh...Pick me! Pick me!! |
Posted By: delin
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 10:04am
| I'm an epoxy fan. One step and the ends are rubbery, not brittle, which is a plus when they stick out of the top of the shrinkie and into your head. I have 0 shedding and they look the same the day I put them in as I take them out. |
Posted By: gsmilie
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 5:29pm
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Delin, what kind of epoxy are you using and what is your technique? Thanks |