I know the ones everyone all uses has a keratin coating inside but is this what shrinkies are linke before cut down to size?  Sorry for the questions but im new to shrinkies.

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I always wondered how they came.  Thanks mochachip! 

I wonder how they get the keratin inside a tiny tube as small as that. 

amazing.  I remember hearing somewhere that shrinkies dont work without the adhesive lining.  Do you konw if that's true mochachip as im sure there are a few people on ebay selling shrinkies without the adhesive?

When / if i do decide to try shrinkies, i'd only buy mine from amm, that way you can be sure your getting the real thing.

Hi, firstly I know very little about hair extensions, but a sudden rush of referrals from here made me curious.

I have several people who as far as I am aware buy the smaller sizes for use as shrinkies.

The MIL specs are AMS-DTL-23053/5, DEF STAN 59-97 and VG 95343 Pt5

It is polyolefin, single wall, no adhesive, 2:1 shrink at 100 degrees C.

One buyer did mention using a heat wand, maybe you could tell me what sort of temperature they reach? The dual walled adhesive lined 3:1 and 4:1 shrink at 110 degrees C.

No the adhesive inside the shrinkie is not keratin.The dual walled tubing was around long before anyone got the idea of using them for hair extensions. Yes the shrinkies are a dual walled shrink tube, the inner 'wall' is the adhesive (thats my understanding too) The single walled just DONT work.

And I will say that the citrus remover from shrinkies.net also worked on my keratin fusion bonds.

Sherrie,

How exactly did you remove the keratin with the citrus remover?  I've tried many extension removers and different oils to remove keratin, but it didn't work.  Maybe I didn't give it long enough or work the removers in well enough.   When I remove my keratin bonds, I place a drop of acetone on the bond and squeeze with pliers.  That crumbles it and turns it into a powder that I brush out.  I haven't found anything else that does the same thing.  That's the main reason I don't use anything that requires an oil based remover.  It seems like you have to work the remover in to get the glue out and I'm not that patient.  What does that citrus remover have in it?  And did it work like acetone (one drop, one squeeze of the pliers, and brush out)?

glue.... keratin...

Mocha my reply was to Shel in the original first post.( Sorry if it sounded like I was questioning you) I think sometimes it all just gets so confusing, what is keratin what is glue.... I know some shrinkies 'claim' that their adhesive inside is keratin, (of course not to be confused as glue!  LOL)

Bird, yes I have used Amms citrus remover on my last removal of fusion bonds, just wanted to see if it worked and it did. No not like acetone. I left it sit on the bonds and soak in awhile. Then crunched & removed. It works, takes longer...but Im sure its healthier than acetone!

I have never experienced any problems with acetone.  It dries your hair out a bit, but that's easily fixed with a shampoo and conditioner.  It's not permanant.  It never damages my fingernails either. 

That's interesting about the citrus remover removing keratin too.  I'm going to stick with acetone because I don't want to have to wait for it to soak in if I don't have to.  Acetone is quick and easy.   I'd still be interested in knowing what's in the citrus remover though.

Ive never experienced anything that I can see from acetone, but for me, my fine, thin, color and bleach damaged brittle, dry hair....I cant see acetone being good. When I put the acetone on, my hair completely soaks it up. I think my fingernails are a bit stronger than my hair! I like the ease of removal with acetone, but I know its not a good thing for my hair.

If you ask Amm she may be able to tell you more about the citrus remover.

Thanks Sherrie.  I heard it had a keratin coating from someone selling them on ebay who was obviously not correct9N.B. not the seller that i posted the link of, it was someone else).  That was nice of the seller from the link to come on here and clarify.

Bird - i use an oil also to remove fusion extensions sometimes instead of acetone.  I leave it to sit on the bonds for a bit before i begin to remove.

xx 

I think most of these companies just advertise the inner lining of the shrinkies as keratin because that what the Doc originally started advertising it as.  I've been told that it is polyamide which rings true.  I tipped the hair for one client with hot melt clear craft glue sticks that are polyamide to apply it with shrinkies.  Before I did this I tested it on my manniquin head.  The craft glue tip seemed to remelt slightly when in the shrinkie and seemed to melt slightly into the hair and the finished shrinkie was absolutely rock hard like I've never felt before which made me very happy but also concerned what would happen when I took it out.  Before I did the client install I removed the shrinkie and used Amm's remover and all products came out really easy even though the craft glue tip had quite obviously remelted onto the hair providing a really tight hold.  I then installed my client and also put another one in my manniquin head.  Its now been two weeks and the client hasn't had one shrinkie come out which is such a massive boost for me.  I have been washing my manniquin head with the shrinkie/craft glue stick tip in three times a week for two weeks also to mirror the client's hair wash.  The shrinkie is still rock hard.  Last night I removed it and the residue came straight out again with Amm's remover.  I think tipping with clear hot melt craft glue sticks is the way to go guys! xxx Test it for yourself.  The shrinkie goes rock hard like you've never experienced before and it holds and then it comes straight out with Amm's remover.  The only drawback I can find is that perhaps someone with a sensitive head wouldn't like the fact that the shrinkie went so hard but my client says they are really comfortable. xx I am keep a vigil with her and will report back every week with shrinkie fall out progress xx

Hmmmm, so you are saying that cheap craft glue sticks are safe to use on our hair?  If that's true, we wouldn't have to order the more expensive keratin sticks online.   We could just save our money and go to the craft store.   

I wouldn't personally use it because I don't want to have to work the oil remover into the bond and wait......I just like to place a drop of acetone and remove easily and instantly.  But I guess it might be an alternative to keratin for anyone who doesn't mind doing more work to remove them.  

Though if it's easily removed with oil, then why can't you remove the same glue with oil when you're using it for things that it's meant to be used for?  Like, well, crafts?

A polyamide is a http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=1hppw2bbvsn1u?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Polymer&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc03b" class="ilnk" target="_top - polymer containing http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=1hppw2bbvsn1u?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=monomer&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc03b" class="ilnk" target="_top - monomers joined by http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=1hppw2bbvsn1u?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Peptide+bond&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc03b" class="ilnk" target="_top - peptide bonds . They can occur both naturally, examples being http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=1hppw2bbvsn1u?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Wool&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc03b" class="ilnk" target="_top - wool and http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=1hppw2bbvsn1u?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Silk&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc03b" class="ilnk" target="_top - silk , and can be made artifically, examples being http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=1hppw2bbvsn1u?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Nylon&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc03b" class="ilnk" target="_top - Nylon and http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=1hppw2bbvsn1u?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Kevlar&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&sbid=lc03b" class="ilnk" target="_top - Kevlar .

She did mention though that some of the craft glue melted into the hair when the heat was applied to the shrinkies, but that it came out with remover.  That's what I was going on. 

 I might have to pick up some orange oil to try it out and compare with acetone. 

I just used this for tipping the hair.  I would just use keratin for fusion.  These are clear glue sticks from the local craft/diy store that are used in a hot melt glue gun just to clarify what they are.  The tip was still in tact when I moved the strand.  The residue completely came out with the shrinkie remover.  I will definitely keep you posted.  I've just put some in someone's hair to try it with extentubes so I'll keep you posted whether they hold up in them as well xxx