Well I did my first Plastikhaar install this afternoon.  Couldn't take pictures as it took me 6 hours and she had to rush off as she was going to a Nelly concern.  Even though it looked beautiful I found it really tangly.  I coudn't get a wide toothed comb or brush through it from top to bottom even if I started combing from the bottom.  I trimed it a bit thinking it was the bottom but I still had the same problem.  We dipped it in hot water and used a dryer to blow it out and still had the same problem.  This stuff seems really really tangly, how do I stop it being so tangly.  She had 28 inches xx

LOL....I have spent two days pretipping PH and Prohair. Pretipped for my own install and pretipped and installed PH for my daughters hair a few days ago...I found the PH and the Prohair both equally tangly too. 

I found finger combing helped and I also found that using the dome spray helped when brushing or combing. I need to find the answers to the tangling issue too. Im scared to end up with a big rats nest on my head when I install this hair

I find that some colors of the plasktik haar are gets more tangled than others.

Since I have done a few installs with both the plastik haar and the prohair, I think that the prohair is much less tanglly and much softer than the plastik haar.

I still like the plastik haar, you can't beat the color choices and the price!

Amanda, dont panic yet! I know its just a matter of how to handle the monofiber. The others who are wearing PH successfully will have the answers for us. I just dont know them. But I know that Jenny, Amm and the others will be able to give us some helpful answers on managing the PH.

Ive noticed the tangliness is usually just the ends....what do you think?

Yes, I honestly do think that the prohair is less tangly.  I have installed it on 3 clients so far, one of which is the receptionist at our salon (so I can see how it's wearing on a daily basis) and it seems to be less frizzy and gets less tangled.

I am wearing my Plasktik haar clip ins daily (24" long) and also have installed plastik haar on 2 other clients so far, and the hair gets frizzed out just after a few days. I blow out the ends of my hair every 3 days or so.   Also, I find that my own plastik haar must be brushed at least 4+ times a day to keep it from knotting on the ends. 

I have to say I am dissappointed with the performance of the plaktik haar.  It's not too bad, so I'll continue to wear it, but it's just not as great as I thought it would be. 

Amanda - I have a spray that i think would really help.  pm me your address and i'll send it to you.

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Hi everybody -

i've had 2 installs with pinchbraids and PH now...i agree about the tangly business; and metalgirl i totally agree with you - some colors are more tangly (and coarse?) than others...

what i have found is that with time, washing, and periodic steaming the PH gets softer and less tangly. i steam it out straight about 1x a week after i wash it and let it air dry (to wash i use generic tea tree oil shampoo, kerasilk conditioner on my hair and the PH, and the dome conditioner as a leave-in). i love the dome conditioner, unfortunately, as i agree with all the hullabaloo about cost, crappy customer service, etc etc. sara from ph said she may have a dome alternative, which would be great. definitely definitely combing with a wide-tooth comb while wet (blasphemy, i know) helps it smooth out and seem less tangly...i brush it out about 3x a day using either dome care or flasher spray...but i really feel once it has a little wear i don't really need the products before brushing...occasionally i also use the biosilk silk therapy (tried the generic and it's crapola) after i brush it smooth.

i have the 50mm installed, but i pretty much wear it straight nowadays. for a little bounce i set it in velvet covered hot rollers.

cheryl

ah - i actually bought a garment steamer. an el cheapo one called "conair professional" i think...anyway, i actually do it like a hair dryer blow-out a la doc's tutorial...my steamer nozzle is the type you can take off a holding pole. i leave it on the pole so that the steam comes out at about neck level, then i take sections of my hair that i've already brushed through and use the steam as if it were a hair dryer doing a blow out. i actually pull the haar through my paddle brush just in front of the steam. i brush each section through about 3-4 times and then go on to the next section. after i'm done i run some biosilk through and it's super smooth. WARNING - like a hair dryer blow out it will straighten out any curl.

Hi metalgirl,

         i've never seen plastikhaar, does it come on a weft so you can wear it as clip-ins, and what is PH?

amanda & shel,

 where do you get your hair from? is it uk?

i wanted to try some form of synthetic because i like the styles you can get and the colours. can you point me in the right direction?

I NEVER brush or comb my PH when wet. It's a pain, but worth it.

Re the ProHair vs. PlastikHaar. Sara said that these products both come from the same supplier. The only difference would be in colors that are not the same.

Jodie - I use various suppliers but i could recommend American dream for your synthetic hair, they have a thermofibre which is pretty good.

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Even though plastik haar may have the same manufacturer as prohair, I think the prohair is much softer.  In the Prohair class, the instructors where talking about how their hair is manufactured with a 'special  finish' to make it feel more like human hair.  Perhaps this 'special finish'  only applies to the prohair and not the plastik haar?  I thought that the instructors were just saying that to 'talk up' their product, but after working with both brands of hair, there definitely is a difference.

The prohair natural body texture is beautiful and soft, but it only comes in a 30" length, so when it's doubled, it's not usually long enough for most extension wearers.

I also like the Flasher spray a lot too.

In any case, if I'm installing synth on a client, I will only order prohair, but for myself, plastik haar will do fine because I don't mind  a little more extra work on it.

The Prohair is a little more expensive, ranging from $25.99-$28.99 per 3.5 ounces, but at least I can order it and receive it in a day or two if need be.

Thanks a lot guys that's made things a lot clearer especially thanks to Rae with the comment about not using products on the PH is like not using conditioner on the hair.  I'm panicking now because when I was tipping the 28inch hair I did get some tangly bits and I pulled a lot to detangle so does that mean that the hair I've put in her head is that why its tangling so much OH NO.  I didn't know.  I thought it was ok to pull because it would go back to its original condition when I blew it out xx