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Topic: SURGE and MSM
Posted By: Princess1
Subject: SURGE and MSM
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 1:31pm

I have seen SURGE and MSM a couple of times in some of the blogs and I was wondering if anyone uses either of them.  If so, can you tell me how well they work and which one is better to use? 



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Posted By: Honeydoo
Date Posted: June 23 2005 at 7:47pm
Hi Princess! I bought a bottle of Surge and never used it because I heard many bad remarks about it. Some suffered from burning and itching and breakage. I also take MSM which is actually a supplement for connective tissue. It's in powdered form. I purchased it in January and I can say that I haven't had alot of breakage and it did change my texture a bit (the curl was alittle looser.). I believe it works better because it's taken internally not topically (although many topical treatments works.). There are a few sites to check out for MSM, when I find it I'll post it here for you.

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Posted By: Honeydoo
Date Posted: June 23 2005 at 7:53pm

http://sunstoneherbals.com/MSM_Research_Bulletin_-_Hair_and_Nails_Study.htm - http://sunstoneherbals.com/MSM_Research_Bulletin_-_Hair_and_ Nails_Study.htm

Here is a study done for hair and nail results with MSM. Hope this helps.



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Posted By: Princess1
Date Posted: June 23 2005 at 8:12pm

excellent advice! THanks honeydoo

 



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Posted By: Princess1
Date Posted: June 23 2005 at 8:14pm
does it make your hair grow faster?

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Posted By: Honeydoo
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 8:09pm
Yes it does. I've noticed a good increase in growth. I use to relax my hair every 3 or 4 months and I'm needing to relax it every 10 weeks or so now. I'm entering week 8 right now and I have a good amount a new growth. When I do relax again, I'll post new pics to compare how much it's grown.

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Posted By: Renee
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 9:26pm
i also have surge but i dont use it. i take the msm powder daily (3000mcg) and it has helped with my shedding and manageability of my hair

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Posted By: Grow Hair Grow
Date Posted: June 26 2005 at 10:12am
I have been using Surge religiously (although not twice a day like the bottle recommends, that's just doin way too much) and have not experienced any itching, burning, or breakage as a result of Surge. I also make sure that I follow up with a moisturizer (ORS Olive Oil or S-Curl, or both) and a lot of it too. I have just finished the bottle (bought it maybe 2 months ago) and will definitely be buying another one really soon :-). Hope this helps...

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Posted By: aDior_me
Date Posted: June 27 2005 at 6:09am

i use surge and take msm.

with the surge i think it works- but i didnt know about the moisture thing, and i noticed on my right temple my hair BROKE!!

when i was about 1/2 way through my first bottle of surge, i bourght another one and filled up the 1/2used one with scurl spray and i use that on the ends of my braids. i use the full surge bottle(that is not mixed with anything) on my scalp and follow with WGO. my right temple is comming back again!

with the msm i notice that my hair has become alot thicker, but i am not using it as regular as i used to! ill start taking it again on a regular soon though cos i really did notice a difference



Posted By: Grow Hair Grow
Date Posted: June 27 2005 at 8:05am

I believe Surge is a protein (someone plz correct me if I'm wrong) and a mild protein can be used daily as long as you are sure to amply moisturize. That may have been the reasoning behind your initial breakage. I am glad that the S-Curl worked though, I SOAK my hair with it. I'm not too concerned about how oily my satin cap or pillow are as long as my hair is staying attached to the roots :-)

Random side question, is Infusium 23 Leave-in (moisture formula) considered a proteing as well?

I have never heard of MSM, is it a supplement???



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Posted By: Honeydoo
Date Posted: June 27 2005 at 9:23am
Yes! MSM is a supplement. Click on the link I posted for Princess1 above, it will tell you about a study done with it. It's the same MSM that I take. A 16 oz. jar was 17.99 and it instructs to take 1/2 tsp. once a day. So, it lasts a long time!!

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Posted By: Grow Hair Grow
Date Posted: June 27 2005 at 11:54am
Hmmmm....gotta check it out!!! Thanks for the info :-)

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Posted By: Renee
Date Posted: June 27 2005 at 11:56am
if the infusium bottle says its a moisture formula, i guess its a moisturising leave in

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Posted By: aDior_me
Date Posted: June 27 2005 at 2:10pm

I believe Surge is a protein (someone plz correct me if I'm wrong) and a mild protein can be used daily as long as you are sure to amply moisturize. That may have been the reasoning behind your initial breakage. I am glad that the S-Curl worked though, I SOAK my hair with it. I'm not too concerned about how oily my satin cap or pillow are as long as my hair is staying attached to the roots :-)

 

yea, i realise about the protein thing now! im the same as you, i really dont care about my pillow casses or head scarfs- till my mum starts complaining about me lying on her cushions with "my wild growth stinking head"



Posted By: Grow Hair Grow
Date Posted: June 27 2005 at 2:21pm

Hahahahaha "my wild growth stinking head". Gurrrrllll, I ain't EVEN trippin off the way my hair feels (super oily) or smells (let's just say it doesn't smell Pantene-ish) with WGO, MTG, and everything else that I add to it! Oh well, what do you do cuz I sure won't be trippin when my hair is BSL, thick, and healthy!



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Posted By: aDior_me
Date Posted: June 27 2005 at 6:49pm

Oh well, what do you do cuz I sure won't be trippin when my hair is BSL, thick, and healthy!

 

 

hey, i wont be either!! especially as i know how my ma is, she complains, cusses, and laughs at all my efforts now [shes always telling me to get my ass of the internet], but she'll be asking for all the "stink" i put on my hair and knowledge when she see's the progress i make!!!



Posted By: diversiti
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 2:29pm

 

Where do I get MSM from? Vitamin stores? Internet?



Posted By: Renee
Date Posted: June 29 2005 at 6:33pm

Stores: grocery stores, drugstores, GNC, vitamin shoppe, vitamin world

Online: puritan.com

you can either get the powder form which i prefer or get the capsules. since you'll just be starting with it, start with a low dosage. maybe 1000mg

 



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Posted By: diversiti
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 10:52am
Originally posted by Renee Renee wrote:

Stores: grocery stores, drugstores, GNC, vitamin shoppe, vitamin world

Online: puritan.com

you can either get the powder form which i prefer or get the capsules. since you'll just be starting with it, start with a low dosage. maybe 1000mg

 

 

Thanks... I bought some yesterday from GNC... it was the power but in pill form - you know ... pull the gelatin coating apart and out comes the powder... 1000mg's. Is that still effective?



Posted By: Renee
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 12:53pm
yeah 1000mg is effective. you can upgrade when you dont experience any side effects like breakouts and migraines and stuff like that. goodluck!

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Posted By: Grow Hair Grow
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 1:26pm

I just bought the 500mg tablets. Should I take 2 tablets in the am and 2 in the pm for a total of 1000mg morning and 1000mg night or is 1000mg total daily sufficient?



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Posted By: diversiti
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 1:35pm
I thought for MSM to be most effective you have to take 3000mg a day... am I wrong?


Posted By: BrownEyez2
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 1:59pm

My daily dosage is 3000mg. I have the 500mg capsules also and take 3/am & 3/pm. I sometimes may split 2am/2midaf/2pm. I'm not sure what the recommended dosage is (if there is one).....



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Posted By: Renee
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 2:05pm

i also dont know what the recommended doasage is. but its advisable to start with a small dosage in case of any side effects. i also take 3000mg per day. i started with 1000mg for like 6 months before i increased the dosage. whatever works for you.........



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Posted By: Grow Hair Grow
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 3:24pm
Wow, 3 of them horse pills. I may have to start at 1000/day and take it from there... Let's hope these things work :-)

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Posted By: BrownEyez2
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 3:51pm

Originally posted by Grow Hair Grow Grow Hair Grow wrote:

Wow, 3 of them horse pills. I may have to start at 1000/day and take it from there... Let's hope these things work :-)

 

You know, when I first started taking MSM I had the very large tablets which were 1500mg ea. I think. They were a pain to swallow, so I changed to the 500mg, but these are small, capsule coated ones w/ powdered MSM inside. Much easier to swallow and I sometimes open the capsule and take it in powder form- much easier to take than the "horse pill" ones....



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Posted By: Honeydoo
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 5:03pm

Grow Hair Grow,

I bought the powder MSM at my health food store and it's 1/2 tsp a day which equals 2,500 mg. I mix it in a little orange juice and I'm done. I've had good results with it.



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Posted By: Renee
Date Posted: June 30 2005 at 7:47pm
yep, i use the powder too. i mix in my chocolate drink or protein shake. err....ive even tried mixing it in my soda . half a teaspoon is 3000mg

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Posted By: Honeydoo
Date Posted: July 01 2005 at 9:45am
It's alittle bitter but not too bad. I haven't tried it in chocolate drink though. I don't like soda but I think I'll try it in a few other things.

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Posted By: Grow Hair Grow
Date Posted: July 01 2005 at 11:07am
man, I wish i bought the powder as opposed to the pills. Oh well, we'll see.

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Posted By: *NOT*Principle
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 1:57pm
Well I took 1500 mg a day three months ago of the MSM, and in two weeks, my new growth went from type 4b to 4a/3c.  Biut I stopped taking it because i got impatient and wanted rather to see growth more than a texture change!  I've been taking them for three days now, but I upped my dosage to 3000 mg a day.  As for Surge product, I didn't like it because it makes my hair revert back.  I'm gonna start taking shark cartilage instead to replace Surge.

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Posted By: Renee
Date Posted: July 26 2005 at 11:10pm
yeah i also noticed that the surge reverts hair. so it makes people think they have lots of newgrowth. so untrue

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