hey all,

Im starting this post because RK hair has been used by many of you and I wanted to get your opinions on the hair itself, if thats ok =). What do you gals think of the hair overall?  Hows the upkeep, color, etc. I have been hearing some mixed opinions of this hair and I thought it would be good to have them all in one post. Thanx all

tangly, had nits(eltch) dry ends, shed like crazy. I have a full bag of 16inch blonde,613  and 3/4 bag of 16inch blonde # 613

anyone want to make an offer????

Well Ive posted this in several other threads, so sorry if I'm just repeating myself, but I think it sheds a WHOLE lot. I got a package of machine wefted and a few packages of hand wefted.  Both shed from running my hands through it and also a lot when I tried to seperate the stiffness out of the curls in the first wash.  First wash I had loads of shedding. The curlier textures all tangled when they were wet. After having nature girl in my head for a few weeks I definitely won't be wearing RK in the future.  Of course, RK hair is pure heaven compared to crappy BSS Hollywood deepwave hair I used to wear before I discovered indian hair online.  My house is still full of reminders of that nasty hair I wore for years. I will never ever get every strand of that shedding hair out of my carpets.

Perhaps people who like loose french refined curls will be happy with the deepwave but if you want bouncy curls you will be very disappointed.  The hair is very pretty and soft to touch and only seems to tangle when its wet, but again, I now only want hair that doesn't shed and this stuff, at least the curliest textures all shed.  I also see lots of white hairs in my batches. Not sure why.

So at alll, forget the RK hair...... 

Anybody knows a supplier with good indian colored hair?

well Im rather satisfied with the RK hair, yes its a bit tangly but all long hair tangles, when I had my (real) hair waist length it would tangle like a mofo.

I also dont seem to have problems with it shedding or feeling dry.  its probably the best bang for your buck.

Kalika are you using light colored or darker hair? It seems like alot of the problems are worse with the blonde. Im gonna post a pictures of my matting problem. Ive never experienced matting like this with ANY hair.

This RK install is just over 2 weeks. My hair had been brushed out about 3 hours prior to these pictures. This is the back of the hair underneath (at the neck area where the hair lays on my back)

I slept with Biosilk silk therapy on my hair all night, well see what happens when I wash it this morning

mines a #2 and it tangles.  I dont know if it tangles like that normally or because Im dancing, I only installed it the night before I went back to work and have been working every night since.

Im richer lol, but tangly

mine tangles and i get a bit of bac of neck matting with it, but i've had that with every batch of 613 i've ever owned, even more expensive stuff :/

My tangles may be due to the 24'' length, i am going to cut it when i do a proper install, we'll see how it is when its razored out and cut properly :)

So in summary, it sounds like RK hair sucks, right?

I don't want to buy it for clients if it's going to be a huge problem!

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same here Marie, Im gonna try to push the hair for the duration of the bonded wefts. I have a feeling these babies are gonna hang in there too. Sunday will be 3 weeks and these LG bonds are as secure as day one!

I really soaked the Biosilk silk treatment on it last night, braided it and slept with it in all night. The hair really combed out much easier after my shower this morning. I didnt need much conditioning products to be able to get my wide tooth comb through it like usual.

Of course the hair still tangled and matted at the neck today. The ends were looking pretty frizzy too so I trimmed about a half inch tonight. I may try some antifrizz treatment (or one of the zillion products under my bathroom vanity) tomorrow before styling.

hmmmm

LHD has used Rk clip ins and has had very little problems and you 2 amm andd the bonded wefts are the ones with the tangling issues.

does that seem like a fair assessment?

amm, how low do you place the clips in the back?

maybe they dont put in the clip ins very low, I have no idea. This is really strange how clip ins are good and bonded wefts get tangled. I dont know just makin a guess

O/T amm are those of #12 and #27?

I do like the fact that RK hair holds curls tho. rrrr I want to get to the bottom of the tangling issues w/ the bonded wefts

amm, do you like the hair overall for yourself?(if you didnt see that RK hair has had an issue w/ tangling obviously)

Ok...some comparisons with my #22 RK. Mine does NOT hold curl well at all. The curl will fall out and be a large wave within a few hours. Unless I put in a really tight spiral to start with. Then I end up with nice curls like in my icon, maybe a little looser than my icon.

My hair does not look that smooth and silky at all.

This hair does not mat just at the neck area, it mats all the way down the length where it touches against my back.

Just out of the shower this hair is a tangled mess. The other morning even with a load of conditioner and products I was seriously worried if I would be able to untangle it, but I stayed at it and worked through it, but it was SCAREY! It took along time to get it untangled. (Now this morning after the biosilk in all night I didnt have this problem.)

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! your scaring me!  I was really hopin RK was going 2 b ok, I didnt know it was that bad. hmmm, Im still gonna give it a try and hope 2 get lucky w/ a good batch like amm and LHD.

Im thinking of trying a strand by strand method and see if anything is different, which I doubt but who knows?

amm wrote:  Then again, I am not showering or sleeping with this hair in.

thats a good point 2. How often do you wash your clip ins amm? maybe washing the hair everyday causes dryness and eventually causes matting and tangling. just a guess tho.

Im sure thats a contributing factor. Besides the fact that I blowdry and curl too....Im sure those things add to the problem. Ive really cut back on how often I wash to try to make this hair hold out. Ive washed every other day at most. And Ive even worn this straight alot in a ponytail to cut back on my styling....and its still not helping much.

I just know with the MANY MANY bonded weft installs that Ive done in the past several years, the method has never caused a matting/tangling issue.

Perhaps the reason the curly is tangly and sheds is because its processed double, for the color and the curl?  I haven't worn it so I can't really be a good judge, but Ive washed and conditioned it several time and I wound up with lots of tangles when it's wet and shedding. Every washing has been a chore to detangle and it's not even on anyone's head.  My Rk hair is 26 inches. The 24 inch naturegirl I've been wearing is tight curly and it doesnt tangle ever. The difference in tangling between this RK compared to my naturegirl and some other odd and end indian remy I have experienced--really is noticeable.

So does nailglue work better than nailpolish for reinforcing wefts? Do you put the nailglue all the way across the back side of the weft?

I usually wear 24, I got extra in case I had to cut a lot of ends off.  The hair I wear now is no trouble at all. It's 24, but it actually seems more like 22 to me. Next time I order with NG I'll be going up to 26.  Can you use super glue on micro wefts too?  Might be a good deterrant to keep my beautician from trying to stick her needle in my weft.  NG gave directions not to put the needle through and I had to watch my beautician like a hawk.  She must have little attention with hand tied wefts because she seemed to not believe me when I told her she needed to retie the ends.  NG has very minimal shedding, but if you don't retie the ends the hair falls off soo easily.

Think I'll try nail glue next time.

Syren123 wrote: This was turning into an RK bash

That was not my intention at all, I was trying to make my point that I believe the problem is not with the install method, but with the hair itself.

I have repeatedly said that I think the lighter color is a big factor. I also know other colors other than the super light blondes have had better experience.

Ok once again my color is #4 and mine are strand by strand 1/2 shrinks 1/2 pro shells. I want to love this hair who wouldn't at that price but I have had to condition and oil the hell out of it just to make it some what decent. I  think if you are ordering for yourself then you can take the chance but those of us with clients in mind must keep looking for that one true great bag of hair. The last thing I want is a client calling upset because she is having problems with the hair.

Im really glad that some people are having better luck with it and I keep trying different products on it 'hoping' to find something that will make it more manageable for me. Ive solved the shower tangling problem, as long as I put some biosilk silk treatment on at night before bedtime, I dont have the tangling out of the shower issue. Now if I could just find something that would solve the matting issue during the day Id have it made! I also bought a professional curling iron that I can control the heat, and I can get curls that last much better! This may be just a case of finding what works on this hair. I havent given up yet!

I have Dome spray would that be the same thing?

Syren123 wrote: I go over the wefts with gel nail glue because when it dries, it's more pliable than super glue which dries rock hard. My stylist can't get her needle thru the weft with super glue so that's why I use the gel. Nail polish doesn't last very long in my experience. And yes, I put it along the entire length of the weft on one side, using the pointy end of the tube to push it into the weft without using too much glue. Only takes a couple of minutes and completely arrests any shedding.

hey syren,

sorry if this is a repeat(I promised I searched in the forum for the answer). Where do you get the gel nail glue? Regular nail glue isnt gel right? Sorry if this is a stupid question, it just sounds like a good idea for shedding. Thanx in advance

Hi everyone!  Well I have read this rk hair post and I will tell you about mine.  I ordered colour single-drawn, colour#27 in 26 inches and ended up cutting off abit of the length and glueing strands in a single row across the back of my head.  I have experimented with many different types of products (expensive/inexpensive)and I will tell you the best way I have personally found to make the rk feel soft, shiny and not tangle.

1. Only ever order REMY (with the cuticle - not hair that has the cuticles stripped off in an acid bath) SINGLE-DRAWN HAIR!! The double drawn will tangle because the cuticles are going in opposite directions! The single drawn, all align in the same direction - just like the hair from your own head.

2. If possible use the STAND BY STRAND method and NOT the weft method.  I assure you the tangling will be dramatically minimised by this alone. Also we all definately believe the lighter the hair the more processed. Therefore the longer the bleach is left on to lift the natural colour, the worse the hair quality. Also, poor quality bleach would literally suck the protein molecules and moisture out of the hair. We don`t know the kind of bleach companies use. It is logical that darker shades would look and feel better quality wise.

3. DILUTE your shampoo with water and add some olive oil into it and shake it thoroughly before you wash. Place some on the scalp area, massage with your fingertips (just the scalp area) and let the rest wash through the extension hair when you rinse it out with warm, NOT HOT water! Add olive oil to your conditioner and mix thoroughly. This is absolutely fantastic for extension hair. Squeeze the excess water out of your hair, slap on the conditioner liberally, comb it through with a wide tooth comb, cover with a shower cap and leave on while you shave, clean your teeth, whatever. Then rinse out with warm or better still cold water. I always make sure that a little of the conditioner mix remains in the hair instead of rinsing it totally out.

4. NEVER EVER BLOWDRY EXTENSION HAIR!! I repeat never! Heat will slowly kill the hair to the point of no return! Buy one of those special hair towel turban thingies that you wrap around your hair after blotting (never) rubbing. Keep on till it has absorbed alot of the water. Then after you take it out just leave the hair without touching it with a comb to air dry. You may separate it with your fingers but DON`T, DON`T, DON`T brush it until it is COMPLETELY DRY. If you do you tear and destroy the cuticles and hair stands and it frizzes also. Wet hair is weaker and pulling on it with a brush or comb will damage it. Don`t use heated tongs or heated rollers. Remember heat will kill! Only foam/velvet rollers or velcro ect;

3. OLIVE OIL IS THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD.... for rk hair - or any indian/asian hair. I use olive oil cooking spray that you would spray on a frypan! Just the briefest shot of spray on the last half of the hair. Or a tiny amount of olive oil rubbed between my hands and applies very sparingly. The trick is to use less than what you would think. It is easy to use too much and then the hair looks like an oily mess.  I did this the first few times until I used discovered that the iniest bit goes a long way.Then I comb it through all of it. I can assure you girls that it is one of the few thing in the world that will transform the hair`s look and feel before your very eyes and even prolong the life of it for much longer. Almost a miracle. Silicon will actually dry on the hair strands within a short period of time and leave a coating that makes the hair feel stiff and dry.  Have you noticed which I am sure you have that when you first put it on the extension hair it feels nice but after some time it "dries" and  the hair feels very coarse. Silicon, spray on conditioners (which contain alcohol ect;) and mineral oil products don`t work on indian/asian hair - only caucasian hair. Because the hair is thicker in strands to caucasian, coating it with these products will will actually make the hair feel even like horse hair! It feels worse because the products leave a stiff residue on the hair and actually dry out the extension hair even further in the long run. Studies have proved this. People who use baby oil (mineral oil) on their skin will eventually have even drier skin! Silicon and mineral oil on the hair will do the same. It is a quick fix but does nothing to improve the texture and "health" of the hair strand (if there is such a thing considering the hair is dead!). This hair need moisture in the purest form. Consider the natural sebum oils from your own head that coat your hair when you give it a good brush or scalp massage. Notice how it makes your hair shine and feel soft. Well olive oil does the same thing and doesn`t leave a stiff residue.

4. Put it in a plait if it is very long before you go bed and if possible sleep on a satin pillow. Shorter hair is not really necessary to plait.

5. Well I can tell you that RK hair is definately remy hair with the full cuticle intact and i love the natural wave in it. At first i was wasting a tonne of money on different products but then I have done these things and it feels great - even though it is a light shade #27. Girls I am convinced if you throw out the silicons and leave-in conditioners and only use the olive oil in the ways I described you will indeed have a hair miracle of your own! Remember too that if the hair is not caucasian hair it is a little coarser too and not as fine and silky.

GOOD LUCK fellow extension lovers

No tangling at all. After two weeks, the ends started getting dried out so I had them trimmed 1/4 inch. They still looked dried out so after I wash it and condition the ends and blow dry it (yes, I blow dry all my hair) I hair spray the ends of the hair before I take the curling/hot iron to it. The results have been great. I do this with all my hair. My hairdresser taught me to do that. (yes I know it's drying) but better than dried out looking ends. (to me anyways) 

I like the RK hair. 

I agree with everything goddess said. That is definitely some of the best advice on how to treat the RK hair.  I have used olive oil for deep conditioning but I really like the Africa's Best oil.  It is great stuff and I use it in the exact manner that goddess uses the olive oil.

It is strange about the RK hair, I had ordered a light color (straight)24" from a member here and it was gorgeous in the beginning, but turned on me shortly.  Everything went exactly as Sherrie described and I sadly had to remove it way before planned.  So then I ordered 3 wefts from another member here and it was the superwavy in a 4(I think) and 2 in deep wave same color length approx. 26". The super wavy is big hair, but with moisture products it is pretty nice and VERY durable.  The deepwave is absolutely gorgeous and healthy and doesn't tangle no matter what I have done to it.  I love it and highly recommend it.  The odd thing is, that that first weft of hair I got was a mere 31" in width at the 24" length and the second one(from a different member) was 42" wide and was 26" long. Those both were machine weft.  Now the last 2 were hand tied and each pack of it had 3 16" wide wefts and was closer to 28" long.  I felt a little cheated and disappointed when I realized the discrepancy here.  Oh well, we all have learned that some things are just never consistent.

My final verdict on RK hair is that yes, the darker colors are far healthier and the more natural the state of the hair when you receive it the better it is and much longer it will last.

One other thing though, I will say that I didn't want to use very harsh chemicals to lighten this to about an 8 so I bought the Feria Hi-Lift for Browns and let me say that after using it, I began calling it Feria NO-LIFT for RK hair.  Others may have more luck but my verdict was that this product didn't budge the color, tone or anything for this specific hair.