For anyone who is interested. I have updated the weft bonding 'sandwich' method demo, with pictures. I should have added that Im at just over 4 weeks with my current LG/weft install and the bonds are as secure as day 1.

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Ok, so after you apply the weft to the sectioned hair, you then take a section of hair and glue it cross wise over the ends of the weft to secure it.  Then pull a thin layer down and glue that on top???

It looks great!!! 

Ohh..............And I also want flat abs like yours!!!

Thanks...Another question...sorry. How many of these wefts do you put in? After the sandwiched layer is glued down do you immediately place glue on that layer for another new weft or pull down more hair?

I have very fine, thin hair and the shrinkies I just installed although great and easy to apply are really piecey. I'm sure partly because of my sections being too large and tips too big but this weft method seems great for a natural un-piecey look for someone with short hair like me. What do you think?

Pull down more hair and section another row. Dont glue one row on top of the other. I sort of use my index finger as a guide, I make my next part about a fingers width above the last row. If you dont leave a little space youll end up with your rows glued together and thats bulky, and uncomfortable.

I have 4 rows from nape of the neck to ear level.

Then 2 rows over the ear all the way around.(from hairline to hairline)

The very top row I do a short row above the ears from hairline to just past ears) but doesnt go completely around the head.

So 7 rows total

But that amount will be different for everyone. 7 rows is what works and fits on my head!

Yes wefts do elinimate most of that piecy look. But also smaller sections and more extension hair will eliminate some of the 'pieciness' problem with strand methods.

Looks great, I have found that with strand by strand if you start from the top and work your way down it eliminates the piecyness.

Hi there Sherrie, do you do the pull over from each side for each weft even the top row?  Also do you use hand tied hair xx

I have just taken my wefts out with no problem, I have used the proclaim shampoo remover to shampoo the wefts while stood under the shower.  I then put loads of conditioner on and they just simply fell away, I rinsed again then put more conditioner on and combed through my own hair with a small tooth comb to get all the residue out and hey presto my hair is clean free of residue full process took 30 minutes.

No just the normal way but am going to try this sandwich way next time I install.  It looks really easy once you see the pictures and its explained really well. 

I never have a problem taking out the wefts at all. 

I always use more than one small bottle of LG doing the sandwich method. I use the small bottles because it gets thick so fast and I have less waste with the small bottles. So I always keep several bottles on hand. I usually go through one full bottle and part of another one. (I think) My next install will be another weft install and Ill pay attention to exactly how much I use!

Amanda, yes even on the top row! No Ive never used hand ties wefts. Sometime I want to try them!

Cool, so I'm not a glue slopping maniac. I thought I was just messy clumsy.

Have you given any more thought to installing wefts vertically instead of horizontially? Who was it that mentioned that? I'm still intrigued. Have had the idea in my head for a while to appy them in smaller sections at a 45 degree angle to make pulling them back more comfortable, since I wear my hair back in a pony more than half the time. I'm interested in any novel application layouts.

Oh, I wear a ponytail all the time also!!!

Also, does the hair seem to stick to your scalp for a while until it loosens?  That would make it uncomfortable to wear your hair up also. Oh, so many questions!!!  Maybe it is a good idea that my LG has not arrived yet, because I was all ready to install the sandwich method. But now...............???????

The waiting sometimes is impossable!!! (ok, so I am a bad speller, I know that, and have learned to accept it )

I must have a boring life, because I can't wait for the mail each day, it's like the highlight of my day!!  And I don't order alot of things, so it's not like I am getting packages left and right!!

I guess I need to get out more often  LOL.

yep Sans the lg will stick to your scalp for a little while, its almost impossible to avoid, but I guess that never really bothered me. It never felt heavy to me, but yes itchy sometimes! But Ive experienced the itchy phases with every method Ive tried!

And Ive never had a problem with putting the hair up. Its hard to do a high pony tail comfortably (for me, others say they do it all the time) until after the wefts get a little looser. I do a low or medium ponytail all the time. But Ive also found it more difficult and uncomfortable with any other method too until the bonds are a bit further from the scalp and not pulling it when you put the hair in an tight/upward position.

Just another question Sherrie regarding the paragraph below, I don't get where the 2inch wide sections come into it, do you mean you work in 2inch wide sections after you've pulled the thin layer of hair over, do you glue that and press with the crochet hook in 2inch wide sections?  Also do you blow dry for 10 seconds on hot or cool heat xxx

2. Then I pull down (from the hair that is clipped up) a very fine layer (I mean thin enough that you can see the track through it) of natural hair and glue that over the top of the wefted row that you've just bonded. And you only need a little glue for this second layer.
(I put the glue on the top of the bonded track then I use a small metal crochet hook to press the hair into the glue so you dont get your fingers all gooey. I only work with about 2 inch wide sections on this second layer so the glue doesnt set before you get the row completed.)

Amanda...when Im doing the 'sandwich' (the thin layer of hair that I pull down from the clipped up hair, to glue over the top of the track) I only use a small amount of glue. So I apply the glue to about a 2 inch section of the track then pull down the hair and bond that (I use the metal crochet hook to press the hair into the glue, to keep my fingers from getting so gooey) then I move on across the row sandwiching it by 2 inch sections at a time.

You dont have to do it this way, it just helps me from getting so messy with glue, and since its only a little glue that I use for the sandwiching, the glue will set up a little faster (depending on the type of glue), so working with smaller sections helps.

I use high heat to cure the bond

Ahh that makes sense to me, that's what I thought, I just wanted to be sure.  Just one more question.  How wide is the glue that you put on your natural hair, do you do the glue strip the same width roughly as the LG brush?

What's your hair like before Sherrie, is your hair fine, will mine be ok.#

And lastly, how do I get it out when its ready.

Thanks so much chick xx