Hi!

Just thought I'd share some close up shots of new machine .  So far, I have gotten 99% positive feedbacks from my clients who are trying my 'special f/x' hilites.  Only one client complained of shedding.  But then again, she complained about the Shrink Links, the locs, the cyber too.  I think she's just a complainer.

I have also seen the almost 1 month results.  I am very impressed!  I really love the fact that the bond is so thin in comparison to the pre-bonded single strands I have tried.  Can't wait for December to come- 3 months into trail.  I should have more full head installs by then.  Still in the lab... 

Strands from left to right-

flattend, rolled, pressed, pressed with some hair above

ENJOY!

xoxox, Charlene

Wow! that looks amazing! the bonds are so small. I may have to get myself out to see you if they hold up well. You are in pennsylvania right?

Dunebug wrote: Wow! that looks amazing! the bonds are so small. I may have to get myself out to see you if they hold up well. You are in pennsylvania right?

Aren't they?   And I put it close to the FACE too!

Yes!  I have a location in North Eastern PA and in NYC!

Yeah, that one is practically on the hairline!

Fabulous, if these hold up well for your ladies I will definately be coming to see you, those bonds are teeny!

Hey Charlene, what do you mean by flattened?

I just did my first full head install of EM tonight.  It went ok.

Are you pretipping the hair with the EM first or just installing loose hair?  If you pretip with the EM and then use the EM to install, that's using twice as much of the EM adhesive tape, thus increasing the product cost per client.

pressed with some hair above - what does that mean Char, those bonds look hot! x

Metal - I think on the first one she just used the machine, I don't think she pressed, rolled or anything just flattened it with the machine.  I was told that if you pre-bond, then you just take the cartridge/tape out of the machine and then just use that cos its still hot xx How long did it take you to do your first full head chick xx

:O <~ my reaction to those tiny bond thingys.. this is so good!

Hi Amanda,

I used a 4 ounce weft of bohyme that I cut hairs off of to install loose as I went.  It took 5 hours for me to do.

Lynn74- My experience has not been good with this machine and synthetic hair, either monofiber or thermofiber.  What has happened with both types of hair is that when they are heated by the machine, the fake hair gets too hot and it melts the tape.  When the tape melted ( I didn't realize it initially) , as I did a few more strands and  the tail of the tape in the cartridge  got all tangled up in one of the gears, making it so the machine would not advance the tape anymore.  Basically it breaks the tape cartridge and at $25 each, that's not cheap.  I wasted 2 tape cartridges by trying to use synthetic fibers with this system.

I was wondering how it would do with stick hair?

I do think this will become faster as I get more familiar with it.

Char, I'm not getting the inverted gun thing.  I tried to do it like that, but it was not working for me.  I think with the blue cover facing me, that I was able to get pretty close to the root for the most part.

I think I like this method.  It just depends on how it holds up over the course of 12 weeks.  I have a couple other girls in the salon who want to be guinea pigs, so I'll get more practice.

I didn't take pictures of last night's install because we didn't get done with it until 11:30PM (we got a late start).  The install was done on a stylist where I work, so I'll take a picture of the bonds when I see her next and post it.

juliejetson wrote: Charlene those bonds look great! (no surprise ) I think you just need to clean it while using it while doing a full head.

OMG!!!  Girl- welcome back!!!   Yup, I agree.  I clean all my current machines like the Great Lengths too.  I'm playing it safe by just doing some f/x right now.  Soon I'll graduate to the full heads!

Lisa- try hold the strands at 12:00, this way you can get really close and invert the machine.

Update on the 1% guneia pig {the complainer}.

It seems that she prefers EM after all.  She says that in comparison to the pre-bonded hairs that she tried, the EM glue is more soft and bendable,  more comfortable {which means she didn't need to take pain killers} and more invisble than the rest.  And lastly, the glue, regardless how thin, is very durable.  Easy removal is a big plus too.

Hello Development- welcome!  Could you please share some info about your experiences with this machine- tips on proper installation, cleaning, any tips you can share would be extremely helpful.  Have you tried this machine installing wefts, integrations, etc...  How many heads can you average about with 1 cartridge?  How long does it take you to do a full head?  Have you tried this with synthetic hair?  Also post some pictures, so we all can see the inside of your work.  We have not received hands on training except for a Korean-English DVD.  Most of the girls are not familiar with doing fusion.  Please, anything you can provide would be very, very helpful and extremely appreciated.

Again thank you for your time, Charlene

ok keep me posted

stan

Here are the pictures of my first practice.  Oh hi Stan by the way.  I feel pretty confident already that I can use it so I'm going to do my first client Saturday.  This machine is really really easy to use.  I used loose hair and used it using the black side (mine's black) facing me.  Removal is an absolute breeze, I couldn't believe how hard wearing and tough the bond felt and how easy it came out.  Its like fusion without all the mess.  The only thing I found was that I had to double coat these strands xx

Wow!

Those look great Amanda...how long did it take? Would the timing be comprable to fusion?

Oh chick!

That is beautiful!   This is just the beginning and more FUN is coming up!!!  You'll be doing reusables, bald spots, more to come!!!

WOOHOO

Right here goes he he.  Koffee, yes that's about what I paid so I'd snap that price up as quick as you can because Darren is going to a hair show soon with these machines and the price will be about $1100 after that.

Char - lol, I'm already thinking of finding a bald guinea pig, I can't wait to try that, imagine how happy someone is going to be.  What are reusables by the way?

Amm - You neeeeeeed one of these machines, its something you would absolutely love.  I can get one off Darren for you if you want and send it to you.  Yes that's the machine on the right hand side.  A cartridge will do around 300 small strands.  It does human and synthetic hair but you have to be careful you don't hold it down too long on the synthetic, that will cause the tape to overheat and snap that's all.  There is absolutely no noise at all.  The glue used is a guarded secret and we're not allowed to know that.  You use acetone or oil for removal.  I'd just use oil because there is hardly any residue left on the hair, even less than with shrinkie removal.  You won't be able to get your breath how they look exactly like fusion but tinier and come straight out with such ease its unbelievable.  I can't tell you how easy removal is.  I put one in, removed it and when I removed it, you didn't lose the hair like with fusion, you ended up with a prebonded strand so the hair is totally reusable.  You just press the tape button off and use the machine to reinstall it, then I took that back off and there was still only a tiny bit of residue on and the strand came straight back off prebonded yet again, fab!  And then I put it back on with the pen that's usually used for the micro-strands!  If the bond wasn't quite right but it had enough glue on, say a couple of hairs hadn't fused in then all I did was turn off the tape button and reheat and roll with the machine. 

x

Has anyone tried this on AA hair?

I think I need one.  Amanda do you think you would be able to use it on yourself?

Amanda8Beechwoo wrote: Char - lol, I'm already thinking of finding a bald guinea pig, I can't wait to try that, imagine how happy someone is going to be.  What are reusables by the way!

Hey chick! The reusables are, ya know, like the locs, the tubes, any metals.

I want to add this- Making strands that look like 'COMBED HAIR' - align the strands together extension and client's hair, separate the extension, pull the trigger to close, using intervals of 3 secs- move strands left and right, slowly pull down- VOILA!  It really looks like each single strand of your client's hair is 'growing real hair' without balls of glue!  I love it!  I can't say enough good things about it!

I would only use olive oil instead of acetone to remove them.  You can also remove the tape cartridge and use the heat of the machine.

-Char

Laura - I don't know what AA hair is, sorry to be dumb.  I will definitely be able to use it on myself.

Char - I don't get the process you are describing, what do you mean separate the extension hair?  What do you mean move strands left and right and slowly pull down, do you mean pull down the hair strand with the machine closed for the three seconds and then open?  Do you not use the pen for balding then and prebond x

Koffee - Yes Darren is part of Fast Beauty, there is a cartridge inside the machine but I also bought a box of five.  I asked Darren for you and he confirms its $600 for the machine, $30 per cartridge and then $31 for posting, he says he can get it to you in 7 days if you're in America.  The colour is clear.  Deal with Darren direct, there's no discount ordering through me chick xx

Amanda8Beechwoo wrote: Char - I don't get the process you are describing, what do you mean separate the extension hair?  What do you mean move strands left and right and slowly pull down, do you mean pull down the hair strand with the machine closed for the three seconds and then open?  Do you not use the pen for balding then and prebond x

Separate like you fan it out.  I haven't used the pen it.  I never prebond.  I bought this machine so I can do faster extensions.  Prebonding would be using those prebonded strands and I've got lots of those laying around anyway. You then kind of wiggle it while you have the machine closed.  Gosh it's harder to explain in words.  But that's how Myun taught me.

xoxox, Char

Amanda ~ sorry I was being lazy with my typing

AA= African American

Thanks Koffee ~

Are you going to get this?

Mine just has a black cover on instead of a blue one.  I've used shrinkies on AA hair with success and I wouldn't see any reason at all why this machine couldn't also be used on AA hair, it gives a really strong but flexible bond and Darren certainly knows his stuff so I'd trust what he says too.

I think this would be so easy to do the back of your head, I'm going to pre-bond first and then use the machine to install them at the back of my head.  I'm doing my first EM client tomorrow so I'll post pictures of before during and after x

pictures! pictures! (jumping up and down)

I can't wait

Gals,

Sorry I've been SO out of the loop . . . just kinda lurking around and enjoying my lush hair and still facing the ultimate quandary of what is the best attachment method. . .THIS LOOKS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!!  Amanda, how do I contact Darren? ? ? Sorry I surfed around a bit and couldn't find the info (it's probably here, and I've gotten lazy).  Let me know!!

Many thanks!! - Fina

Hi there chick, no problem you can e-mail him through his website http://www.fastbeauty.co.uk - www.fastbeauty.co.uk xx

Here's my client.  The install took me five hours but I assume I'll get quicker.  The thing I noticed was I had to close the machine twice to get a decent amount of glue on the thickness of the stands that I use.  I can't see how you can do a full head in 2 hours I'm sure but anyway, another thing is you have to be careful not to catch stray hairs from either side in the bond.  I suppose it would be best to use one of those little plastic guards but that would have took even longer.  11 out of 10 though.  I can't believe I got this much hair in with such tiny bonds, when she was done I ran my hand down her hair and you could hardly flipping tell she had anything in her hair, this truely is the most undetectable method so far on the market.  I bodged a couple so I just took them straight back out and redid them, took about a second, so easy.  Any other questions feel free.  Client loves this and so do I.

Wow your quick!!! Thanks girl! Daren it is then. I had e-mailed him on the price and I think it was only a bit more than what Anna Lee wanted and if I can pay pal that will save on the bank transfer charge

 Hey Charleen can you post a photo of that metond of moving the machine back and forth. How are these strands different than regular strands. Sorry just not folowing you

Oh my god,  those bonds are perfect!!!  Were you able to get by with less rows? or was it about the same?

    Please keep us up to date on her experience with wear and tear.  Thanks!!!

I got by with about the same amount of rows but it wasn't as thick an install but still plenty of hair.  

I did another client today, this was a full head of 18inch, this took me 6 1/2 hours.  This is because this client had a lot of baby hair so I had to be really careful not to get it trapped.  It was an absolute pain in the butt.  I used one of those little plastic guards which was great but then I couldn't get close enough with the bond then so I just had to manage and I know I saw her winch a couple of times when I knew I'd trapped some hair and had to get it back out but saying that she's had shrinkies and she says this is much better, it lays a lot flatter and is so much more undetectable.  So any ideas on how to rectify the baby hair problem guys? x

Also another point I would make is don't just clean this machine after use.  I would say clean it inside every 2 hours because it jammed on me about 4 times because I didn't do this x

WOW chick- that's sooo cool!!!   And you're getting lots of full head installs with very good feedbacks!  Congrats!!! U R DA BOMB!

What I do is use the velcro for the top and bottom so I won't get any baby hairs or traveling hairs stuck to my strands.  Mine was given to me by IHI.  They only sell to pros.  But I read in a thread somewhere that you can get it for $20.  Metalgirl has one.  It is white and very wide.  I think she posted it on some thread.  I've also seen this on the seamless video.  I don't use the shield for this, just the velcro.  The strands come nice and clean- no traveling hair or any short hairs getting caught.  It also grows out like an even 'I' instead of a 'C' or an 'S'.

Marie, line up the strands together {fan them out}, then clamp down, then slowly pull the extension hair down.  It will look like 'combed hair' instead of 'tube' glue.  I'll post some pics soon.

Charlene

Holy Mackril,  Cybermane,  that's genius.  I'm off to Jo Ann's  I can use that with all of my chicks with the super damaged baby hairs.  Thanks.

Amanda8Beechwoo wrote: ooooo I am soooo glad that there is actually something I can buy I was panicking there, now I've just got to find where to get some??? What is it actually called Char so I can do a search x

velcro strip , I think?  Use the ones with the teeth, not the padding.

Scotty, this is a LIFESAVER

Amanda8Beechwoo wrote: I have found where to get one of these from http://www.superhairfactory.com - www.superhairfactory.com , the only problem is they want $70 for shipping which is ridiculous.  Would anyone be prepared to get me a couple and i'll paypal them the money and then them send it to me in the UK? xxx It would be much appreciated x

I'll get it for you, chick.  I need some large ones myself.

I wonder if we would get a discount if we did a hairboard order?  It looks like quite a few of us are planning on ordering.

Has anyone asked about a bulk discount?

This is really tempting isn't it..... but $750 is so much money to not know if the machine will hold up is pretty hard.  I'm waiting to hear Metalgirls final opinion before I totally decide, because I have a tiny clientelle and know it won't pay for itself for a while.

   People in Northern MI don't pay $1500 for anything..... not even ski passes.

marie87 wrote: Charleen I can't wait to see the pic's!

Hi Marie!

It was kind of hard to take pics while maneuvering the machine at the same time.  By moving the strands and trying to coat it with a lot of glue leaves you with a cleaner, white tape.  Anyway, my machine did not advance so I had to cut my tape and iron on the remaining strands- oh well. 

machine not yet 'broken' {1st pic}

machine did not advance, I cut tape and ironed on to strands {2nd pic}.  It's still okay, but it takes forever to do

close up view of iron on strand {3rd pic}

Charlene

{I clean it everytime and make sure no glue is stuck anywhere.  What happened?  Stan?... any troubleshooting guides?... Thanks!}

hi there Char, did you squash your strands flat then, I rolled mine.  Looks like you've done a good job of saturating them though.  Did you use the machine manual and press it twice or just once.  I pressed all of mine twice but I did get a good lot of hair in there.

On the subject of the machine not moving on, there are two little white wheels at the bottom, wind them round, sometimes the glue gets stuck at the back and until you wheel them round you can't see it, that's where my glue build up was that stopped the machine from moving round, when I removed that it was fine.  I also cleaned the metal plate and made sure glue hadn't got under there periodically.  If you've done all this, change the tape cartridge and put a fresh one in and see if that works, if its still not working then there's something wrong with the machine and I'd get onto Anna x

I was talking about the machine, but I guess even if there was a discount~ it probably wouldn't be enough!

I agree with amm and scotchy for a diy it's spendy

Ahh thanks Amm.

I'm going to e-mail Darren and see what sort of discount he could give on a bulk order of say 5?  I'll keep ya posted x

Amanda8Beechwoo wrote: hi there Char, did you squash your strands flat then, I rolled mine.  Looks like you've done a good job of saturating them though.  Did you use the machine manual and press it twice or just once.  I pressed all of mine twice but I did get a good lot of hair in there. On the subject of the machine not moving on, there are two little white wheels at the bottom, wind them round, sometimes the glue gets stuck at the back and until you wheel them round you can't see it, that's where my glue build up was that stopped the machine from moving round, when I removed that it was fine.  I also cleaned the metal plate and made sure glue hadn't got under there periodically.  If you've done all this, change the tape cartridge and put a fresh one in and see if that works, if its still not working then there's something wrong with the machine and I'd get onto Anna x

Hey chick!

Myun just emailed me and he will send me a new one!  

I like to flatten my strands.  If I'm going to roll them, then might as well use the Great Lengths or the others.  I look really close to see if I have an even saturation and then call it a day.

But so far, my clients love this machine and the one client you see up there, had me cut the Mark Barrington plugs and use this.  The MB did not work for her- oh well.

I would recommend this to stylists who have a lot of fusion clients.  I like it better than glue guns, hot pots, and glue tips.  The inventor seems like an honest business person.  I don't doubt him.  I would doubt the distributors though.  I've been in this hair extensions business for over 17 years and I've ran into some 'give me your money and goodbye' deals.  I am glad to deal with the inventor directly.  His reponses are immediate.  His emails are very detailed.  He seems to be very willing to help even if it takes a lot of emails.  He makes me feel very comfortable.  That is what is very important for my 'hair extension speciality' business to grow.

I love your flattened bonds Char, they look really clean.  I suppose that's the beauty of this machine, you can do it either way.  I don't think I'd be able to get them as neat and square at the top as you have, they are very neat.  I think I would struggle to keep the extension hair still enough to get them that square at the top once I'd snipped the top if you know what I mean.  That's great that you will be getting a new one.  Just one question for you, once you're machine has shut, it like makes a little noise until its fully shut doesn't it, how long in seconds roughly do you move it back and forth and wiggle lol your strands seem very saturated.  I think I'm a bit paranoid that I don't want to reck a tape cartridge x

That's so cool that she had you cut the MB hair, just shows how good this machine is.

I hardly have any fusion clients but I think its more undetectable around the sides of the head than shrinkies so I'm thinking of doing a mix with clients to be honest.  Get the bulk in with the shrinkies and then do this around the top and sides.  What my shrinkie clients love is when you run your hand down your hair you can't feel the shrinkie bump, its quite streamline.

When I contacted Mylun I was e-mailed back by his secretary Anna Lee who put me onto Darren at fast beauty.  She told me he was the man to deal with.  I have no qualms about doing business with Darren at all.  Everything he has said has been true to form and I have also been told, anything at all wrong with the machine then a new one will be sent.  He has kept in touch throughout the buying process, posting process, testing process.  He has phoned me today to get an update as to how I like the machine etc etc.  That to me is good business.  Bad business is to sell you the machine and not give a damn cos they've got your money x

Hi there Char, I'll ask Darren if you can chuck in your order for a box of cartridges with everyone else's, that was just if they buy a machine he was giving them 7 for the price of 5, so I'll see about that.  That's exactly what I'm doing that you're describing except I was maybe doing it for 4-5 seconds max and there was still some glue on the cartridge.  I'll try it for longer next time. 

Marie - that's in dollars.  Darren has the 5 machines in stock so whenever I've got 5 people together I'll pass on everybody's number so he can call you for your card details and honour the price.

So far

1  Marie

Anyone else? x

Marie, I don't think it will be in place of seamless- which gives a wider coverage in less amount of time.  I think this would be along the lines of glue fusions.  If anyone looking to offer their clients the 'invisible' look and go high up the hair w/o too much detection, than this is worth buying.

Yes chick, try counting longer to make sure all the glue is out of the tape.  And if Darren can't do it, that's fine.  Thanks so much!!!

Wow!  Elvira- you got a lot of toys!  I haven't played with the braid and twist yet.  It's still in the box.

Remember when I reported the problem of the tape breaking and now advancing?

I emailed the Lees a few times about that, and they did not offer to send me a new machine! 

Why are they responding to Charlene's problem, and not to mine.  We are having the same problem, so it obviously a defect in the machine.

I still don't know about this method.

I emailed Darren and he rang me three times left messages and I finally got back to him and he told me about the offer he has for members on here.

I am really interested in purchasing the extend magic, but I want to see it in action before I buy.  His colleague is going to be at the Professional Beauty show in Manchester on the 9th & 10th October. 

Amanda are you going to the show in Manchester?

If so you can register on the professional beauty show site for free tickets.

Koffee - I've nearly taken this hair out but I ordered 18/22 mix from my supplier and its not the same colours as I usually have so I've had to send it back so its going to be another couple of days before I get "my" hair but I'm positive and looking forward to doing the back of my head, I think its going to be really easy for the simple fact, if I do it wrong I'll just take it back out and do it again lol.  So much better than the extentubes.  I really get my hair off when I can't get a tip in lol

Metal - this seems very strange about the machine having a defect, mine also didn't move on but it was just simple cleaning that needed doing.  I wonder why you and Char have had the same problem.  Why don't you see if Char can get in touch with them for you.  Are they just ignoring you or what exactly did they say?

When you bought your machine, did you get the disk saying that you had a year's warranty.  They have to keep to that so just tell them you want a new one cos its not working.

This machine really is worth percivering x

Thanks guys for the response.  I did ask the Lees to replace the machine, and I took a picture that showed them exactly how the tape was getting all twisted up on the metal gear post.  They tried to tell me that I had either put the tape in wrong, or that when I tried to remove the tape, that I pulled it out wrong. 

In any case, they did send me 2 new tape cartridges, but I don't want to be in the middle of an install and have them thing break on me again. 

My 2 clients on which I did a full head install like it, but they are getting some shedding.  I am experimenting with using stick hair with them machine, and also making some epoxy tipped hair and installing that. (the epoxy tip is the closest to MB tips that I can figure out)

I also have tried using the MB tips, but I don't know how well this adhesive will bind to the natural hair to the plastic tip on the MB hair.

I have to say, I like Charlene's flat bonds.  I think that is a way to cut down on shedding, because you can clearly see that every hair gets coated with adhesive.

Hey Lisa- My machine is not advancing at all.  I let is cool off for 2 days now- still no movement.  I'll check on it again tomorrow.  Maybe they gave me the older version?  I don't know.  But yes, it did stop in the middle of a client- yikes! 

Myun sent me pics of Peggy's install too and they are flat and very nice.  Some are wide and some are thin.

Lisa, with the MB's I cut his plugs off.  I asked the client if she wants the plugs on top so at least we can salvage the hair in case if she changes her mind, but she hates the lumpy feel of it.

When I first ordered the machine, he gave me one price which was around the asking.  That's when I told him, how much for all 3 machines and that's when he gave me a good discount.

The more I bought the more I saved- plain business sense.

Sand, how's the braiding machine coming along?

ok- i got the braid machine at a great price and i will actually be working with the person selling them and offering a good price on here for who ever is interested.

Char- so far so good, i tried it on my dolls head and it worked good, then i did some braids on my grandaughter and she loved them, i need to figure out how to add hair and braid them for more length. so far so good,

S

I did my own hair with the extendmagic yesterday, here are the pics, I pre-bonded the hair first as I thought it would be easier and then installed with the machine.  It was so easy and so quick it was unbelievable.  It only took me around 4 hours which is really quick for me as it takes me about 12 hours to do a full head extentubes and shrinkies.  The bonds feel really comfortable and lay really flat and they are so undetectable.  They feel really flexible which is weird as you expect the bonds to feel like fusion because they look like fusion.  I'll keep you posted x The hair was 18inch bohyme colours 613 and 14 which I blended on a blending board.  Excuse my roots lol xx

Amanda, you do such a beautiful job!!  I wish I lived in the UK, I would come and see you every 2-3 months!!!

How awkward was it to use this machine in the back of your head?

And, how the heck do you blend so da&n good?????

How many strands did you put in?

Awesome job!!!

WOW!!!  Simply amazing!!!  chick!  I effing LOVE it!!! 

I wish I knew how to do this on my own head.  All I can do are the seamless and tapes in my hair- lol.