Where is the variety?
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Topic: Where is the variety?
Posted By: hairalways
Subject: Where is the variety?
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 12:43pm
I am a lover of all hair styles and find it something near nirvana when i see a girl or a guy who has found a look or style that truly enhances them.
So what i want to know is....where is the variety in fashion anymore? I have here my latest copies of Bazaar, Elle, Vogue and People. I can count on my hands how many styles I see that are short or even slightly different than long, long with layers and very long.
Don't get me wrong, I love long hair and am the proud owner of 25 inches of it...but it's getting kind of "stepford" out in the fashion world. Does anyone else see this and for all of you shorthaired beauties, isn't it irritating that short hair isn't modeled more in magazines?
Jacqui
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Posted By: S_Miller
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 1:20pm
Jacqui: I totally agree but like everything else in the fashion world, its are far cry from reality. 1% of the world has the same body type (and thank god) as the models, and their hair and the products they promote are not totally insync with us average woman. It would be great to see a variety of body types, and hair lengths and styles from the designers and models.
------------- Stephanie
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Posted By: DarkHelmet
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 1:35am
Those who control the media controls the masses.
Just say no to the Kool Aid folks.
Those magazine's suggestions on how to look and packaging to the general public is a a cry for help from the people who wish everyone looked, dressed and acted the same way.
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Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 6:54pm
In my daily walk of real life, I see women possessing a wide variety of
hair lengths. Probably moreso now than at any time in several
decades (the result of more longer lengths). Maybe (?) this
fashion trend you observe in magazines has "served" to "balance" the
tastes of "the masses." On any given day the range I see is from
ultra-short crops to waist-length (occasionally, longer).
I remember a time when the reverse (of what you describe, Jacqui) was
occurring... the fashion mags showing mostly short hair (certainly much
shorter than they show these days).
Those who like and prefer short hair should wear their hair short as
they please, and should not feel pressured to wear their hair longer
simply because it is being prominently displayed in the fashion world.
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Posted By: eatgreenjello
Date Posted: October 15 2005 at 2:46pm
Yes, I want to see more short hair in beauty magazines. I watch this show called, "America's Next Top Model", and they did a hair makeover on all the girls. I was so happy to see that some of the girls got very short hair cuts, and they looked GREAT! I'm sure in real life they would have never thought to cut their hair that short.
DarkHelmet wrote:
Those who control the media controls the masses.
Just say no to the Kool Aid folks.
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That's very true! And Bill O'Reilly would be flattered!
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**Hair type: 2a, which is wavy and fine.
**Color: Naturally dark brown, currently dyed reddish brown.
**Length: below shoulder length
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Posted By: Kuroneko
Date Posted: October 23 2005 at 5:29am
I don't remember there ever being magazines full of short hair. Either that's just comparatively speaking, or must've happened before I was born. I guess when I was coming up, the percentage of short hair in magazines was probably the same as now-- you might see one once in a while, but the vast majority were long. I remember cutting out and keeping pics of short-haired women sometimes, when I could get away with it, 'cause that was my ideal for what I wanted to look like one day.
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Posted By: hairalways
Date Posted: October 23 2005 at 9:58pm
back in the 50's maybe, the norm was for women (not girls) to wear a short "set" hairstyle and that was seen alot in the fashion world-magazines as well as TV reinforced it. Now it seems the majority of women and men in TV and magazines fit a certain look. It is just tiresome. I think I need to start looking to different media for intellectual as well as visual inspiration. Glad to see I am not alone in these observations.
Jacqui
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Posted By: bean3270
Date Posted: October 23 2005 at 10:28pm
hairalways:
You could cut your hair short.
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Posted By: HAWG
Date Posted: October 24 2005 at 12:35pm
I agree; Jacqui would look great with a nice short cut.
------------- HAWG
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Posted By: HAWG
Date Posted: October 24 2005 at 12:40pm
Has any ever noticed "Prevention" Magazine at the grocery store checkout stand? Every cover that I have seen in the past has always had a short haired beauty on the cover. I can honestly say that for as long as I can remember, there has not been anyone but a short haired beauty on the cover; and not the same short haired beauty each month.
http://www.prevention.com/canyon">
------------- HAWG
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Posted By: Kuroneko
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 1:01am
I haven't looked at that magazine before. . . but I did notice that when you click the pic you posted, it opens a page that shows pics of long-haired women on the covers, so I guess they have some of those, too.
Ah well, I guess there are no magazines with only short-haired women. Even the short hairstyle magazines, ironically enough, contain some long styles :-P .
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Posted By: hairalways
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 10:34am
Oh no...My hair does not look good short..not on me and not the hair itself either. it is thick and strong - and has a will of it's own..it's like saying a redwood tree looks better short than long....
But thanks so much for the supportive words.
I saw a great magazine in the store the other day, but I can't remember the name! it was in Japanese and had lots of variety as far as hair. Lots of choppy as well as deconstructed styles. very fun to look at. Will go back and see it and post the name. Saw it at Barnes & Noble.
Jacqui
jacqui
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Posted By: jimr
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 9:16pm
Manifesto d'Cheveux Féminin
I believe that we are living during one of those very conservative periods where conformity is very important. As much as we all believe that we live in an open, free and 'liberal' society we are actually in the middle of something like the Victorian period. The more that we all think that we’re free to do and act as we please the less that we actually can. Being free is an unconscious act that thankfully your not supposed to worry about! When you become concerned about your freedom and liberty it usually means you or your culture are in trouble.
Fashion/style is the most important indicator of a cultures strength and vitality. Anyone whose has studied art or anthropology knows this. The more dynamic a culture is the more enlightened and vital it is. The more change that takes place in a society the greater the advances in civilization/progress that occur. The less change and variety there is the more suppressed a culture becomes. Anytime that change is impeded or stopped the less benefits occur overall.
In this respect the prevalence of long hair as a fashion statement is a reflection of the general state of suppression of change and dynamism. I can not think of more repressed period of time then the Victorian Period, during which long hair was a norm. Much to everyone’s surprise i.e. modern sensibilities, this period had an incredible degree of sexual repression, with it’s attendant decadence, deviancy and hypocrisy.
Our culture and society are under threat (fill in the blank here) it’s only natural to pull in and circle the wagons, as in strict sexual identities suppression of experimentation and fun! We are moving into a very critical period of a cultures maturation, unfortunately history has not been kind to civilizations that refuse to continue to evolve. élan vital.
I am fan of women’s hair fashions. I find long hair boring, and I especially like women with short hair, all kinds of short hair, super short, a-lines, bobs, tapers, pixies, girls at the barbers, everything, it’s all great! The more short styles the better! Viva la différence.
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Posted By: always_alone
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 6:49am
Speaking of free and "liberal" society. You know what I find interesting that has nothing to do with hair? ...but I will mention hair later. I find it interesting that all those free thinkers (liberals I've encountered that is)...they are open minded only to what they are not against. They tell me (conservative) that I am close minded...but what really is going on is that they are being close minded to me and what I think. I just find it interesting and ironic. 
Okay, so onto hair. I think long hair is a pain and so boring. But hey...so many women look at these magazines containing sticks figures with long hair. If all we saw was short styles, I'm sure more women would not feel like it is odd to get short.
------------- Elizabeth
2b/M/ii
pixie/20"/waist
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Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 11:19am
jimr wrote:
Manifesto d'Cheveux Féminin
I believe that we are living during one of those very conservative
periods where conformity is very important. As much as we all believe
that we live in an open, free and 'liberal' society we are actually in
the middle of something like the Victorian period. The more that we all
think that we’re free to do and act as we please the less that we
actually can. Being free is an unconscious act that thankfully your not
supposed to worry about! When you become concerned about your freedom
and liberty it usually means you or your culture are in trouble.
Fashion/style is the most important indicator of a cultures
strength and vitality. Anyone whose has studied art or anthropology
knows this. The more dynamic a culture is the more enlightened and
vital it is. The more change that takes place in a society the greater
the advances in civilization/progress that occur. The less change and
variety there is the more suppressed a culture becomes. Anytime that
change is impeded or stopped the less benefits occur overall.
In this respect the prevalence of long hair as a fashion statement
is a reflection of the general state of suppression of change and
dynamism. I can not think of more repressed period of time then the
Victorian Period, during which long hair was a norm. Much to everyone’s
surprise i.e. modern sensibilities, this period had an incredible
degree of sexual repression, with it’s attendant decadence, deviancy
and hypocrisy. Our culture and society are under threat (fill in the blank here)
it’s only natural to pull in and circle the wagons, as in strict sexual
identities suppression of experimentation and fun! We are moving into a
very critical period of a cultures maturation, unfortunately history
has not been kind to civilizations that refuse to continue to evolve.
élan vital. I am fan of women’s hair fashions. I find long hair boring, and I
especially like women with short hair, all kinds of short hair, super
short, a-lines, bobs, tapers, pixies, girls at the barbers, everything,
it’s all great! The more short styles the better! Viva la différence.
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I agree that in the general sense, the more liberal a society, the more
it evolves. History is replete with examples, including the
current backward state of the Arab world.
That said, I have a few comments...
As much as we all believe that we live in an open, free and 'liberal'
society we are actually in the middle of something like the Victorian
period. The more that we all think that we’re free to do and act as we
please the less that we actually can.
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The extent to which people believe that they are free to do and act as they please, the more free
you actually are. Come on, are you meaning to suggest that
everything which people know in their hearts and heads to be true is
actually false?
Anytime that change is impeded or stopped the less benefits occur overall.
In this respect the prevalence of long hair as a fashion statement
is a reflection of the general state of suppression of change and
dynamism.
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Your argument is illogical. To equate the recent fashion
preference of long hair to an impediment in the continued progression
of modern societies is absolutely ridiculous.
I can not think of more repressed period of time then the Victorian Period, during which long hair was a norm.
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Even if the first part of the statement is true... (which I don't
believe it is)... would that be simply correlation, or cause and
effect? Another ridiculous statement....
Much to everyone’s surprise i.e. modern sensibilities, this period had
an incredible degree of sexual repression, with it’s attendant
decadence, deviancy and hypocrisy.
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Much to my surprise, you write that statement as if it were fact.
Was the Victorian period worse than the time before? Do you
believe that today modern societies are less repressed than during the
Victorian era... and if so, do you actually believe that "decadence,
deviancy and hypocrisy" have lessened?
I could continue to deconstruct your manifesto line-by-line, but I think I'll sum up with this:
I am fan of women’s hair fashions. I find long hair boring, and I
especially like women with short hair, all kinds of short hair, super
short, a-lines, bobs, tapers, pixies, girls at the barbers, everything,
it’s all great! The more short styles the better! Viva la différence.
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I am happy for you that you enjoy short hairstyles. But your
vision of "everything, it's all great!" apparently does not actually
include everything, for if it did, it would include medium, long, and
extra-long lengths and styles. Ironically, it seems that your
vision of societal progression depends on a narrow definition of the
range of women's hair fashions.
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Posted By: jimr
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 12:27pm
Touche Dave;
C'est fantastique!
Jim
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Posted By: Kuroneko
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 2:16am
I love Japanese hair sites-- they seem to be so much more creative with hair than American ones ^_^ ! I've never really looked in their magazine department before, but if the one near here carries Japanese hair magazines, I might have to go check that out!
hairalways wrote:
I saw a great magazine in the store the other day, but I can't remember the name! it was in Japanese and had lots of variety as far as hair. Lots of choppy as well as deconstructed styles. very fun to look at. Will go back and see it and post the name. Saw it at Barnes & Noble. |
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Posted By: gunnie71
Date Posted: January 12 2006 at 1:52pm
I like variety for women!
I don't judge people on their clothes or hair, etc.
I look for fun, smart, interesting people. Long hair=Beautiful, is an old wives tale(as far as I'm concerned). I believe, Beauty is acceptance. Take care of your Soul, mind and body. I personally try my best to put Jesus first in my life, Hair fetish is a guilty pleasure, which doesn't harm me or anyone else.
Take care and God Bless!
------------- Katie ;)
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