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Topic: brassy ash blonde
Posted By: sugarplum_fairy
Subject: brassy ash blonde
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 8:05pm

Hello everyone!

I have been using the Goldwell Topchic range for years now to get my hair from a natural level 4 ash brown to a level 7 dark ash blonde. I use 10A with about 25 ml of Ash mix which gives me a gorgeous ashy colour for about a week and then it starts turning brassy with every wash. Topchic is meant to be a permanent colour, but i guess the ash mix isn't?! My question is, are there any other similar ash mixes that i can add to the hair colour that won't fade as quickly?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Sugarplum




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Posted By: Veronica F
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 12:12am

It won't become brassy if you maintain the color, by that i mean that u need to get a purple shampoo or a color depositing shampoo for light blondes. Purple counters yellow tones that tend to appear in light blonde hair.



Posted By: swede
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 5:01am

I think that you should try to maintain the color by using a semi permanent dark ash blonde toner every now and then.

Another option would be to double process, lift the hair to yellow then tone with a dark ash blonde toner. Then once it fades it won't look that brassy since you don't have so much underlying pigments left.



Posted By: sugarplum_fairy
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 1:26pm
Thanks for your replies. I think I'll try the purple shampoo and see how it goes. Not sure about double processing as my hair is already quite dry and brittle. Thanks for your help anyway.


Posted By: Claude
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 7:14am
Originally posted by sugarplum_fairy sugarplum_fairy wrote:

Hello everyone!

I have been using the Goldwell Topchic range for years now to get my hair from a natural level 4 ash brown to a level 7 dark ash blonde. I use 10A with about 25 ml of Ash mix which gives me a gorgeous ashy colour for about a week and then it starts turning brassy with every wash. Topchic is meant to be a permanent colour, but i guess the ash mix isn't?! My question is, are there any other similar ash mixes that i can add to the hair colour that won't fade as quickly?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Sugarplum

Why are you using 10A to go from a Natural Level 4 to a Desired Level 7? 10A is Level 10 Ash...much lighter than your desired level of 7. Also what volume developer are you mixing with that 10A? Also 10A does not provide any coverage for gray hair if you have any FYI.

Do you have any gray hair you are looking to cover? What you should do if you want to be a Level 7 and you are a level 4 and your using Goldwell Top Chic color is get some 40 Volume Developer to get the lift of 3 levels since you are going from a Lvl 4 to 7. Any other volume developer will not give you the lift to go from a 4 to 7. If you have gray hair you are looking to cover you can add some 7N to the mixture....it would go something like this depending on the amount of gray hair on your head.

Using 40ML of 40 Volume developer (The Top Chic is a 1:1 ratio of developer to color)

up to 30% gray - 15ml of 7N + 25ml 7A (or desired lvl 7 color)

31%-60% Gray - 20ml of 7N + 20ml 7A (or desired lvl 7 color)

61% and over -   25ml of 7N + 15ml 7A (or desired lvl 7 color)

 



Posted By: sugarplum_fairy
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 12:28pm

Thanks for your reply. I don't actually have any gray hair, but your info will come in useful when I do get them.

I usually use 30 vol developer with 10A. I don't think using level 7 would give me enough lift. Last time I had my colour done at the salon, the colourist used level 10, so I just went with that.



Posted By: Claude
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by sugarplum_fairy sugarplum_fairy wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I don't actually have any gray hair, but your info will come in useful when I do get them.

I usually use 30 vol developer with 10A. I don't think using level 7 would give me enough lift. Last time I had my colour done at the salon, the colourist used level 10, so I just went with that.

The color doesn't provide the lift.....it's the developer that gives the lift to the target color.

Goldwell Developers:

10 Volume - up to 1/2 level of lift....used to tone most of the time

20 Volume - 1 Level of Lift

30 Volume - 2 Levels of Lift

40 Volume - 3 Levels of Lift

Blonding Cream - A booster that when added to developer can provide 1/2 to 1 level of additional lift.



Posted By: sugarplum_fairy
Date Posted: October 29 2005 at 10:21am
So would using 7A with 30vol give me the same colour as 10A with 30vol?


Posted By: swede
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 12:07pm

Higher levels of Topchic (I think it was level 7-11) contains higher level of ammonia, than the lower levels. Therefore you'll get a little more lift from them..

I really think you should try 40 volume developer, cause if you use 40 vol instead of 30 vol, you will probably get a little more lift, which means that you'll have less underlying orange pigments that can make the hair look brassy..



Posted By: sugarplum_fairy
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 11:17am
Thank you all for your advice. I'll use 40 vol next time I colour. Meanwhile I went to my local Sally's today to look for a purple shampoo and they didn't have anything of the sort! Does anyone know where I can get a purple or colour depositing shampoo in London?


Posted By: FunnyGirl
Date Posted: November 03 2005 at 10:29am
You should try the Silver shampoo from L'Oréal Professional ( http://www.lorealprofessionnel.com - www.lorealprofessionnel.com ).  Use it twice a week to keep your hair from brassiness.  Hope it helps. ^^



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