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Topic: Permanent color too dark, fading
Posted By: neoclassical
Subject: Permanent color too dark, fading
Date Posted: January 03 2006 at 9:14pm

Two weeks ago I dyed my hair from natural strawberry blond to light neutral brown using Wella Colorcharm permanent haircolor with 20 volume developer and it turned out almost jet black. I know I should have strand tested but I guess I just figured "its a neutral color, what could go wrong." Why would this happen though, I've heard that porous hair can absorb too much color, but my hair was completely virgin before, and I take good care of it.

Basically the color has faded a bit each day since then, even though I use color protecting shampoo. Right now its about what I would consider light brown, and compared to the regrowth it is still a little darker but still not what I want, because there is too much red showing from my natural color. Based on this I think I would like the result better with a light ash brown, but just touching up the roots with that from now on, rather than risking more damage to the already dyed hair.  However, I'm concerned that with as much color as my hair absorbs that I will end up with green roots for a week or so until it fades.

Based on all this, does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do? Ideally I just want to end up with a color that: Isn't too dark, doesn't have any obvious red or orange tones, and remains consistant rather than starting to dark and then fading.




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Posted By: neoclassical
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 3:29am
I read on some other posts here about protein fillers, do some people still need these even if hair is previously unbleached or uncolored?


Posted By: aubergine
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 5:41am
I'm sure it can do no harm   Some people naturally have very dry hair, or blow dry/straighten it to death, so yeah they must be able to use stuff like that.

Natural blonde is more porous than darker colours isn't it?  Maybe that's why it went so dark.  The same happened to me.  I have very light golden blonde hair naturally, and I first dyed it light brown, it went medium/dark cappuccino brown, but luckily I liked it a lot.

I read somewhere on here that ashy tones can counter orangey/reddy tones if that helps.  I think the light ash brown is a good idea, because your hair will probably fade some yet.  I'm going to do the same thing when I strip my hair, I'll be left with a rainbow of white/blonde/orange/light brassy brown from roots to tips, and then I'm going to use Nice N Easy Natural Light Ash Brown to go over.


Posted By: Rebekah
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 9:25pm

Your hair may be very dry and porous or damaged.  Some of the "conditioning" shampoos and conditioners out there really DRY your hair out. 

"natural strawberry blond to light neutral brown using Wella Colorcharm permanent haircolor with 20 volume developer and it turned out almost jet black"

I'd try some Colorfix to remove that color you put on and then try a lighter color.  If you have RED hair you'll want to use a green dye.  Miss Clairol has two shades you could try, MOONGOLD (warmer) or MOONHAZE (drabber)...buy them both.  Mix them half and half with 20 vol.  Then try them each separately too.  All strand tests of course!  LOL!  Decide what you like and go for it! 

You know if you decide to go with a light ash brown on just the roots then only do the roots and rinsing out the product should be enough to "change" the color you currently have if you don't want to go the Colorfix route.  I'd say after about two touch ups you might have an even color, unless of course you have a problem with very porous and dry hair, the ends may stay dark or appear too light.  Let me know how it goes... Good luck!



Posted By: crd17
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 10:17pm

So sorry to hear about this disaster. From my experience, it seems "light neutral brown" (about a level 4) goes on ALOT darker than what the bottle says. I've even noticed that with dark blonde shades. Neutral shades are even darker than their descriptions (ex. "Light neutral brown" will be darker than regular "light brown").

Your situation is a tricky one. I'd probably go see a professional.

 

 



Posted By: neoclassical
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 2:11am
I don't blow dry or straigten my hair, but it does tend to be on the dry side so maybe that was the problem. I don't think colorfix would be much of a help because of the fading, the line between the colored hair and new growth is virtually undetectable now. Hopefully if I use a filler before coloring next time it will work better, and I'll probably use Clairol this time instead of Wella. Also I have read that demi permanents should be used on porous hair, instead of permanent. Is this usually the case? The only thing that concerns me with the demi is that colorfix supposedly won't touch them. Even if a strand test is conducted you can still end up hating the color once it is used all over, but I'm pretty sure an ash brown is what will give me the desired result.


Posted By: Roxay
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 6:27pm
Usually darker hair dyes go on darker at first (especially the first week) and then fade rather quickly.

However, going to nearly black when the dye is supposed to be light brown sounds pretty extreme. I probably have a very similar natural color and when I dye my hair medium ash brown it might be starting to border on dark brown (when its first dyed) but no way would anyone call it black.


Posted By: Blondie1972
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 7:40pm

I'm sorry this happened to your hair:(

I'm not a pro so I can't help with the technicalities of correcting it~ but I did want to say that you have come to the right place.  LOts of great people with excellent info that can help.  ~ANd then lots of others who have simply been there and can relate!

Good luck~ I hope you get the colour you want soon!




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