This is what I did yesterday. She had sooo thick hair that I really had trouble blending it, but I think it was ok in the end.
I would have liked to worked with it some more, but it was allready late and she had 5 hours of trainride home, and she was tired (so was I, this install took 6 hours. Danm, I gotta work on my speed).

Do you have any comments on this?
Anything I could do better?

Nice synne!, thats some LOOONG hair!, huum i wonder how it will look flatironed? maby the small hairs at the back and the lengts will blend in better? and maby a few more pieces in the front? , anyways gorgues, love the way you used the different colours!

I know i doesn´t blend well in the front, but her hair was damaged and frizzy from colouring and the extensions are soft and shiny.

And she wouldnt allow me to razor it much beacuse she wanted as thick hair as possible.
I put in over 200 strands of hair, and I could have put in more, but she wanted to go home.

I hope it will blend better after a few washes. She lives 5 hours away from me, so I don´t think I will se her untill she is having the next install (if she wan´t me to do it ofcourse ).

Wow- Those look good!

How far from the scalp are your bond sites?  The look really close (and I assume that's a good thing?)

Sorry.. Newbie here just asking questions! (It's really fascinating stuff!!)

The closer to the scalp the better.If you start with too much space then thats less time you will be able to wear them..And I agree I am still fascinated by fusion.Always wanted to try it,but I always chicken out.Fusion glue seems alot harder to get out than shrinkie glue,lol.

What a pretty girl.the install looks pretty good.Maybe since she lives so far away,and wants fullness faster put in wefts with either LG or protac.You could get alot of hair in quickly.Strand by strand is hard to blend with short hair.You really have to go up as far as you can.I know since my hair is the exact same length as hers.Me and hubby used 300 strands last time.which was down from the 400 we used before that,lol.Another thing Curling it will make it look loads thicker.

Great job,by the way.I didnt even know  you did extensions.I blame my horrible memory.Good luck.I bet you'll have many happy customers.

They really do look fantastic!

I will keep ya posted on my experience with fusion.

My stylist put them 3/4 of and inch away from my scalp.  Its seems like a long ways away - but for my first run, it's probably a good thing.  The first week has been spent fiddling with 'those things in my head' because it feels heavy/tight.

For my next set (yep, I'm thinking this may be habit forming?!?!) I might ask him to move it up a half inch.

Longhairdreams wrote: Maybe since she lives so far away,and wants fullness faster put in wefts with either LG or protac.You could get alot of hair in quickly. [....] Curling it will make it look loads thicker. Great job,by the way.I didnt even know  you did extensions.I blame my horrible memory.Good luck.I bet you'll have many happy customers.

I´ll try suggesting wefts if she comes back (I think she will. I got a message from her, that when she went to work that night as a bartender she got a LOT of tips ).

I have made extensions for friend for some time, but now I have just started out doing it for others.
This first month my costumers only pay the price of the hair, so I can get pictures in my galleri fast. I havent desidet what to charge later.
I am a terrible buisnesswoman, I allways ending up giving everything away .

Edit to say that i tryed to talk her in letting me make curls on her, but she refused. She liked the straight hair. What a shame , I really think it would look god on her with curls.

I dont like fusion as I had a terrible experience with it and they all matted together even though I did take very good of them, I ended up going to the hairdressers and it took two hairdressers six hours to get nearly 500 bonds out of my hair.  Ugh!! I would not entertain this method of install in my hair again.  But saying this it does work well for others.

I will be staying with weft installs as it suits my hair best of all.  I love the thickness of the wefts and I think they are so easy to manage.

I'm not suprised she got alot of tips.You did a great job with the little time you had.

And I understand.Stick straight hair is very popular.I rarely see people with curly hair.And if I do its only because its natural and the person doesnt care that day,lol.

Was that hair alrealdy tipped. It looks really thin. You did a beautiful job. And don't shoot yourself down, your doing a good job by trying to becoming established. In the area where I live,a small town, I will probably charge anywhere from $250 and up. I have been advertising on the radio for the past two weeks and I haven't gotten any responses yet, just questions. I just started promoting hair fusion in my salon. It takes time. Maybe you should charge half of what someone else in your area would charge.

Shiry

BirdOfEden wrote: Actually, it is not good to put the bonds too close to the scalp.  For one, it causes the bonds to stick out instead of lie flat which in some cases can make them easier to spot (especially if you have thin hair or haven't washed it for a few days).  There is also less ease movement so when you do ordinary things that might cause the bond to need to move (like brushing hair, laying down on your pillow) when the bond moves it becomes painful and actually pulls out pieces of your own hair.  Its best to have the bonds installed at least 3/4"

That is funny, because my experience on my own DIY installs, that it have been the bonds that are longer from the scalp, that I lost and that have my own hair still attached to it.
The ones close to the scalp stay put.
I wonder why that is?

Shirilyn wrote: Was that hair alrealdy tipped. It looks really thin. You did a beautiful job. And don't shoot yourself down, your doing a good job by trying to becoming established. In the area where I live,a small town, I will probably charge anywhere from $250 and up. I have been advertising on the radio for the past two weeks and I haven't gotten any responses yet, just questions. I just started promoting hair fusion in my salon. It takes time. Maybe you should charge half of what someone else in your area would charge. Shiry

Thank you for your feedback, I apreciate it .

Synne wrote: BirdOfEden wrote: Actually, it is not good to put the bonds too close to the scalp.  For one, it causes the bonds to stick out instead of lie flat which in some cases can make them easier to spot (especially if you have thin hair or haven't washed it for a few days).  There is also less ease movement so when you do ordinary things that might cause the bond to need to move (like brushing hair, laying down on your pillow) when the bond moves it becomes painful and actually pulls out pieces of your own hair.  Its best to have the bonds installed at least 3/4" That is funny, because my experience on my own DIY installs, that it have been the bonds that are longer from the scalp, that I lost and that have my own hair still attached to it. The ones close to the scalp stay put. I wonder why that is?

Probably because when your hair grows and bonds are further away from the scalp, it's easier to get the bristles of your brush stuck between your hairs and it breaks them.  That's probably why you see damage when the bonds are further away from the scalp.  It's easier to do.  

However, when the bonds are too close to the scalp it creates a constant tension on the hairs that are being pulled together so tightly.  Then when you lay down on them, or pull them in any direction while stlying, there is no "give" for them to change directions and your natural hairs pop right out of your scalp.  Whereas, if you had placed the bond a little away from the scalp, there would be room for the bonds to be moved without creating too much tension and pulling hair from the scalp. 

It's difficult to explain without being able to visually illustrate, but I wore fusion for a year and have experienced firsthand the effects of bonds close to the scalp as well as bonds further away.  I think that actually wearing extensions, you notice many things that might normally go unnoticed.

BirdOfEden wrote: Synne wrote: BirdOfEden wrote: Actually, it is not good to put the bonds too close to the scalp.  For one, it causes the bonds to stick out instead of lie flat which in some cases can make them easier to spot (especially if you have thin hair or haven't washed it for a few days).  There is also less ease movement so when you do ordinary things that might cause the bond to need to move (like brushing hair, laying down on your pillow) when the bond moves it becomes painful and actually pulls out pieces of your own hair.  Its best to have the bonds installed at least 3/4" That is funny, because my experience on my own DIY installs, that it have been the bonds that are longer from the scalp, that I lost and that have my own hair still attached to it. The ones close to the scalp stay put. I wonder why that is? Probably because when your hair grows and bonds are further away from the scalp, it's easier to get the bristles of your brush stuck between your hairs and it breaks them.  That's probably why you see damage when the bonds are further away from the scalp.  It's easier to do.   However, when the bonds are too close to the scalp it creates a constant tension on the hairs that are being pulled together so tightly.  Then when you lay down on them, or pull them in any direction while stlying, there is no "give" for them to change directions and your natural hairs pop right out of your scalp.  Whereas, if you had placed the bond a little away from the scalp, there would be room for the bonds to be moved without creating too much tension and pulling hair from the scalp.  It's difficult to explain without being able to visually illustrate, but I wore fusion for a year and have experienced firsthand the effects of bonds close to the scalp as well as bonds further away.  I think that actually wearing extensions, you notice many things that might normally go unnoticed.

I know exactly what you mean , but this experience I had with the bond far away from the scalp, was a freshly installed fusionbond, that had slidded down while I was installing it , at then I was to lacy to do it over again (is was only my own hair ).
One day, a few days later, that bond was in my brush when I was brushing the lengths of my hair, and it had allmost all my own hair still attached to the bond .

But I hear you about the pulling isue. I will deff. make them a little longer from the scalp next time. Thank god my "costumers" are aware that they are used as models and getting-better heads .

i would suggust making the sections real clean and square so that there are no stray hairs pulling from either direction which could cause breakage.

TanglesRC wrote: i would suggust making the sections real clean and square so that there are no stray hairs pulling from either direction which could cause breakage.

Square sections .. tjeck .

i like it synne. shame she didnt let you curl it im sure it would have looked nice. i dont understand the straight hair obsession either. i think a nice wave is way sexy. question, do u hav insurance i know your just starting up but if anything happened you wud need cover!! also, do you not need a hairdressing / cosme. qualification to do xtensions in denmark?

I'd suggest being neater on those sections as all those (what look to be) travelling hairs are going to get caught up and pull

x

kirstyx1888xmac wrote: i like it synne. shame she didnt let you curl it im sure it would have looked nice. i dont understand the straight hair obsession either. i think a nice wave is way sexy. question, do u hav insurance i know your just starting up but if anything happened you wud need cover!! also, do you not need a hairdressing / cosme. qualification to do xtensions in denmark?

Thank you Kirsty. I loove curls to.
I have never heard of a law saying that you have to have a licens to do extensions here in Denmark. We do not have as strict laws in Denmark that you have in USA.
I tell all the people that email og phone me that I am not a proffesional hairdresser, but because of the cheap prices I have, most of them don´t care . I tell them that I am in a process off getting better, so they are aware of what they do before they put themself in my chair.

But thank you for your concern

kateadreena wrote: I'd suggest being neater on those sections as all those (what look to be) travelling hairs are going to get caught up and pull x

I have just read in here that I can use a light waterspray to help those tiny hairs in place. I wil use this in the future.
Thank you for your feedback, I actually thought that my sections were ok, but I will try harder .

Very nice! She defo suits her hair better longer, well done chick! 

Also what a fab offer giving it to them for the price of the hair!  Just checked out your website, didnt realise your natural hair was so short! what a great job uve done on your own extensions too chick!

x

I'm sorry if this is offensive but those extensions look HORRIBLE. They don't blend well at all and, personally, I would have never even put them in her hair. Clearly her hair is not in good shape. Sorry but I think they are the worst extensions I have ever seen.

Well newhair....as Synne said in the original post she didnt have a chance to work with it anymore becuase the girl had a long train ride home. So what you are seeing is the immediately after photo...where no cutting, no blending or styling has been done to the hair. As everone knows its the razoring and styling that makes the extensions blend...it just dont happen all by itself! And after washing the extensions 'fluff' up so to speak and the extension hair doesnt seem so 'flat'.

Most of us who get extension doesnt have 'nice' hair to begin with....I know my hair certainly is crappy, thats why I have extensions!

Honestly, the photo looks similar to my own installs before cutting, blending, styling, washing.

Well Newhair, welcome to our board ...

Sherrie and Syren

OMG I can't believe someone would say that! What a b*tch! Not a wise choice in a first post on this board...

Synne, I think your pictures look lovely  

newhair4me23 wrote: I'm sorry if this is offensive but those extensions look HORRIBLE. They don't blend well at all and, personally, I would have never even put them in her hair. Clearly her hair is not in good shape. Sorry but I think they are the worst extensions I have ever seen.

Well, that was not well said , but like Sherrie said she was limited on what she was allowed to do. My first install to me could have been better, and my second also. But I kept pictures for myself so that I could see where my improvement needed to be. Remember there is a way to say everything and the way you said it was hurtful.Welcome to the board.

Shiry

Thank you girls .

Well I know Im not at all perfect yet, but I have seen anough angry people in my life to let something like this pass.
I am open to criticism and improvement, and listen to your advise, but this comment I just ignore.
It has nothing but bad carma written all over it.

But thanks for your support. You make my heart jump of joy over this solidarity we share  ...

Edit: And by the way, I´m almost fully booked for the rest of this month, so someone must like what I do (or maybe its just my homebaked bread they like )..

Yes it IS important and weary good to go to classes! and get training! but it is entirly to create beautiful hair without being a proffesional!

Synne and the rest of us have learned SOOO much at this board, and will continue too, and we will improve our skills and gett better and better!^_^  Its not rocket sience this hair ting:P

But i se no reason to be so rude, i se that you can be conserned that we maby destroy peoples hair because you think that we are undereducated O.o, but i would let any of these girls do my hair! They know theyre sh*t!:D

sherrie215 wrote: Thank you to the HB Admin for taking care of this quickly!!

Hi Sherrie,

Guess what...I just checked and you were right....the IP used by  HairbyValencia and NewHair appears to be the same person. 

We are blocking all related IPs.

Thank you for all your help.

Karen

Thank you Karen! Did you check the third one....I wont mention name?

Synne - your work is terrific!  Glad you saw through the negativity...we are ALL learning...even the "experts"....

Karen - thanks for handling Valencia and her evil twin expeditiously ( that's a word I don't use everyday...)  What is up with people?????

Hi Sherrie,

I just checked the 3rd suspect.  Different person.  But blocking that IP as well.

Thanks again.

Wow...Im surprised! I would have suspected Valencia and suspect #3 to be the same...LOL. My bad!

Again...Thank you to the Admin. for acting quickly on the report. I hate it when our happy community becomes so chaotic!

Aphrodite wrote: Synne - your work is terrific!  Glad you saw through the negativity...we are ALL learning...even the "experts".... Karen - thanks for handling Valencia and her evil twin expeditiously ( that's a word I don't use everyday...)  What is up with people?????

Hi Aphrodite,

I really don't get it at all.  Why would people waste time being mean?  Trolls have been defined by the basic Internet world to be similar to cowards.  The trolls "hide" behind various handles and then lob nasty word attacks at innocent people.  They delight in starting flame wars and disrupting a friendly thread  It gives them power.

I see this happen with emails to HB.com all the time.  People with hotmail and other anonymous mail accounts (except there are now ways to track threats from anonymous email accounts via the ISPs) will send really vicious emails attacking all sorts of things.  But when HB challenges them to send us a way to get in touch with them to try and resolve their complaints, they run and hide.  Obviously cowards.  They could never say the things that they say via email or on the message boards in person. 

Our only defense is to delete them, block them and wipe any reminder of their existence off the boards.

Thanks to everyone that sends in reports.  That helps me & the admin team catch these things quickly.

Have a great evening everyone.

sherrie215 wrote: Wow...Im surprised! I would have suspected Valencia and suspect #3 to be the same...LOL. My bad! Again...Thank you to the Admin. for acting quickly on the report. I hate it when our happy community becomes so chaotic!

I thought so too.  But I am checking things out further. Thanks again for helping me and the Admin Team today.

Geeze, what a thing to wake up to.

Job well done everyone. Again thank you so much for sticking up for me  .

Yeah we`re a great team!:D i  "reacted" so much that one of my posts was deleted,.. to hostile maby?:P but umh whatever im just so glad to se them go!:D

I have not seen the other post thang, what was that about? o.O

moffpoff wrote: Yeah we`re a great team!:D i  "reacted" so much that one of my posts was deleted,.. to hostile maby?:P but umh whatever im just so glad to se them go!:D I have not seen the other post thang, what was that about? o.O

Unfortunately when fighting breaks out, some posts that are not necessarily hostile or inappropriate may get deleted because they are embedded in the middle of other posts that need to be deleted for those reasons. 

Also, sometimes it is impossible to delete one post without losing the entire "thread".  So posts may be deleted as a result of deleting an entire topic direction. 

Finally, some posts are deleted when the offending party has been banned or deleted but someone continues to post about the topic....in essence trying to keep the pot stirred.  :-)

We just try to keep things calm, peaceful and friendly and thus sometimes posts may get wiped and are "Friendly Fire" victims.

So sorry for any inconvenience.

Thanks for the info Karen:):)  it does not matter , was just my ranting xD 

im just so glad that you where so quick to react and got them banned :) Keep up the good work!<3

I am not a troll. I have been getting hair extensions for quite some time and I've seen hundreds of them. These extensions are AWFUL and they should not even be done by some careless person who works out of her home with no certification. I thought this board was for mature discussions, if you can't handle it, ban me. I'll find another board where honesty is welcome. I stand by what I said, those extensions look like crap. But who knows? Maybe all of you people have bad extensions. Judging from the cheap methods you use, I wouldn't doubt it. Don't bother to reply, I will not be back. I prefer to speak with adults who can afford real hair extensions rather than half @ss cheap ones. Good day all!

Additionally, you're a bunch of idiots running this board. I've never posted here in my life so you do not have my IP number. Especially since I have about 3000 of them. Was just browsing and saw that sh*tty work. I honestly feel bad for the girl and anyone else who goes to you. YOUR WORK IS HORRIBLE. Who cares if you're booked all month, my extensionist is booked for the next 6. Doesn't mean a thing. Just that some cheap people can't afford the real deal. I feel sorry for them.

Ciao!

these comments are not even worth any response....you are in violation of SEVERAL board rules. You will be banned, your comments will be deleted....Ciao to you too!

• Trolling Will Not Be Tolerated!   Please don't add posts that are inflammatory just to annoy people or add posts that you know will cause arguments.

• Personal Attacks! Please do not criticize people. While it is appropriate to share your difference of opinion, please do so with kindness and courtesy.  Please remember that the written word may appear harsher than those that are spoken.  So please post in a manner "as if" you would wish to be talked to in person.

• Flaming. Flaming will not be tolerated. This includes any posted material which is vulgar, defamatory, inaccurate, harassing, hateful, threatening, those that invade the privacy or others, any posts that are blatantly sexually oriented, or violates any laws.

Is there any doubt that is the same person?  No. 

She needs to get a life!

Edit:  BTW Sherrie, I love the new avatar!

chichairstyles1 wrote: I've never posted here in my life so you do not have my IP number. Especially since I have about 3000 of them. Ciao!

Hey all....write this IP # down and if you see it anyway on the Net you will know it is Valencia.  She is definitely a troll.

205.188.116.7  with the following registration email:

mailto:r_belik@yahoo.com - r_belik@yahoo.com

chichairstyles1 wrote: I am not a troll. I have been getting hair extensions for quite some time and I've seen hundreds of them. These extensions are AWFUL and they should not even be done by some careless person who works out of her home with no certification. I thought this board was for mature discussions, if you can't handle it, ban me. I'll find another board where honesty is welcome. I stand by what I said, those extensions look like crap. But who knows? Maybe all of you people have bad extensions. Judging from the cheap methods you use, I wouldn't doubt it. Don't bother to reply, I will not be back. I prefer to speak with adults who can afford real hair extensions rather than half @ss cheap ones. Good day all!

Same IP address

205.188.117.71

good stuff - can't outsmart you karen! why people even try is beyond me...but it does indicate what type of person they are.

Naked Eye wrote: I love it too sherrie!! Looks beautiful!! Anyways, I think by now Synne is rolling her eyes thinking, dear lord, get a life. I know I am!

You got it ....

Karen Shelton wrote: chichairstyles1 wrote: I've never posted here in my life so you do not have my IP number. Especially since I have about 3000 of them. Ciao! Hey all....write this IP # down and if you see it anyway on the Net you will know it is Valencia.  She is definitely a troll. 205.188.116.7  with the following registration email: mailto:r_belik@yahoo.com - r_belik@yahoo.com This is the same IP in the same subnet as the original HairbyValencia.

Unfortunately, sadly, there is some level of truth in what this person says.. ISPs assign IP addresses dynamically, (i.e. you are assigned the next availble IP address when you log in..) or some ISPs only have ONE IP address they assign to all users. Their backend network then handles all requests (packets) going out to the web. (Similar to how a home router works) The ONLY thing you can tell about the IP address is who the ISP MIGHT be.. I say might because there are methods for spoofing IP addresses. IP spoofing is a method used by hackers for spamming message boards and guestbooks which employ IP logging. Spoofing makes the IP address in the posts appear legit, when in fact they are not. (It's a problem I fight DAILY on my own website and my husbands website guestbooks) However, unless you are technically savy, the average end user does not possess the technical know how to spoof an IP address.

Also keep in mind some ISPs who are DSL providers, lease their lines to other DSL providers. Earthlink for example leases lines from PacBell here where I live, and PacBEll leases lines from Covad. So an IP address in the same subnet MAY not be from the same internet provider..

It is impossible to come to any concrete conclusions from just the IP address only.. However, depending on the backend achitecture of this forum, other data logs may provide the ISP with enough data IN ADDITION TO the IP address which can help determine who ACTUALLY posted the note..

I just wanted to point out from a techincal standpoint, that an IP address in the same subnet by itself ONLY says that the poster MIGHT be using the same ISP as Valencia.. It doesn't tell you anything else. Hopefully you have enough additional data from the forum backend logs to provide the ISP with some clues as to the identity of the person(s) involved. Sorry for jumping in here, I  wanted to throw in my three cents from the perspective of an IT professional.. I hope this all works out..

people who attack and demean others have very low self esteem. In order to make themselves appear or feel better, the simply put down people and attack them. they are the type of people to be pittyed. They really should be ashamed of their behavior.

There is one thing to give constructive criticism, and another thing to  be so imature and  to say something so mean. I think, ignoring them is the only hope they will give up and go away. Obviously they have no work and no life otherwise why would they be on here acting out in such a vile and evil way.

The best defense in this matter to rid this board of the trolls is PRAYER!!! We bind every evil spirt and attack in HIS name!!!

BirdOfEden wrote: Actually, it is not good to put the bonds too close to the scalp.  For one, it causes the bonds to stick out instead of lie flat which in some cases can make them easier to spot (especially if you have thin hair or haven't washed it for a few days).  There is also less ease movement so when you do ordinary things that might cause the bond to need to move (like brushing hair, laying down on your pillow) when the bond moves it becomes painful and actually pulls out pieces of your own hair.  Its best to have the bonds installed at least 3/4"

I agree completely and also add that not only does installing fusion close to the scalp cause the extensions to stick out but also makes for a very painful first week for the client.