Just a note:

Valencia is one of our customers and a friend to my wife. She does not work for us. It is my wife's company and she does not do hair. We import and sell hair from India. All info is available on the website.

Currently my wife, Camille, and I are on vacation in OH.  We live and work in SC.

Valencia lives and works near the DC area.

You are more than welcome to check us out.  My wife has pictures over on a fotki.com site.  There is a link in our forums page that you are more than welcome to check out. 

EDIT:  I pasted the link below:

http://public.fotki.com/remyhairtoday/ - http://public.fotki.com/remyhairtoday/

I'm the one who works on the website but I'm no webdesigner so I'm learning how to work in flash. The next big update to the site will have more pictures of the hair but I'm pretty busy with school, work and family at the same time =)

Thank you for your time.

Phil

Phil,

Your site says "Valencia" she does all your pre-tipping exclusively for a fee for the hair you sell, and she fields all questions on your board...I assumed that meant wshe worked with you...

I understand that you did not see her havoc she caused on this board but please understand my concern when seeing her name surface again....we don't want anything to do with internet trolls and "know it alls" like Valencia... 

You know I've been reading the posts regarding "Valencia Gate", and I wanted to interject a few words here.. I came to these forums (Hair Boutique and Black Hair Forum) because I was researching remy hair vendors, and was looking for information feedback, etc.. While a lot of the information on these forums has been very helpful, unfortunately what I also see is a lot of is posts which involve opinions on vendors that are not based on personal experiences with the vendor, but on a lot of other factors. For example:

1. Gut feelings
2. (What I consider IMO) immature webdesign mistakes (borrowed pics, borrowed text)
3. Guilt by association

I know everyone here wants peace, but I think it behooves everyone to post information not based on what we suspect, but what we actually know..

I said this on another post, but I really want to say it again.. I would hope that the folks here don't hold their feelings towards Valencia against Camille and Remy Hair Today.. Camille's done nothing here and it's UNFAIR to hold her BUSINESS association with Valencia against her.. I personally judge people on THEIR own actions not the actions of those around them. Because frankly, people just can't control the actions of other people. We can only be responsible for our own behavior and actions. If Valencia has offended people here, then so be it, but IMO we should be careful that we don't fall prey to the "guilt by association" theory. It's not a good way to judge others..

I have no opinion one way or another on the whole Valencia "controversy". I do see both sides of the conflict, but I truly have no feelings one way or another.. However, in reading the aftermath of this whole mess, it feels like an innocent business woman is going to share the blame for something she really wasn't involved with..

Camille didn't post in any of the Valencia threads on this forum.. Her husband posted understandably because he's trying to defend his wife's business and name from being sullyed by something she really wasn't involved in. And now even his posts are also being regarded with suspicion.. Forget Valencia for a minute.. If your wife was being called on the carpet publicly for something YOU KNOW SHE DIDN'T DO.. What would you do???

Look, I don't know Camille or her husband personally.. I found Camille because I had been researching remy hair, and have been talking to her about her product. I have spoken to her and exchanged a number of e-mails with her.. I found her patient, VERY knowledgable, and honest. I would not be planning to spend my money with anyone I thought was dishonest or scandalous. My point here is this, it seems like "Valencia Gate" is being taken a bit too far.. She's gone, and that should be it.. Are those who she associates with now going to be judged based on HER actions??  Is that even fair??

This is just my opinion, but I really hope we aren't going to jump to hasty conclusions..

Crystal

I agree with you to some extent Crystal. I was the one who initailly posted with a response to Valencia about being offended by her posts. Apparently, by the posts that followed I wasnt the only one who felt that way. I believe that Valencia  probably IS a very competent and qualified professional. My only 'problem' was her attitude toward the majority of the people who make up this board (DIYers) But in no way would I hold Camille, her husband, or Remyhairtoday responsible and not buy their products because of Valencia.

Having said that....as business people Camille and her husband surely understand that the people that they associate themselves with is a direct reflection on them.  I dont know the extent of Valencias involvement in their business and I really dont care personally, it wouldnt stop me from buying their products if they were good, but the reality is that you are judged by the company you keep...not that that is necessarily fair.

I dont know if you got to read alot of the posts that were made in ValenciaGate as they were mostly deleted, but she also posted under another userID which turned out to be a KNOWN TROLL

Divavocals wrote: You know I've been reading the posts regarding "Valencia Gate", and I wanted to interject a few words here.. I came to these forums (Hair Boutique and Black Hair Forum) because I was researching remy hair vendors, and was looking for information feedback, etc.. While a lot of the information on these forums has been very helpful, unfortunately what I also see is a lot of is posts which involve opinions on vendors that are not based on personal experiences with the vendor, but on a lot of other factors. For example: Gut feelings (What I consider IMO) immature webdesign mistakes (borrowed pics, borrowed text) Guilt by association I know everyone here wants peace, but I think it behooves everyone to post information not based on what we suspect, but what we actually know.. I said this on another post, but I really want to say it again.. I would hope that the folks here don't hold their feelings towards Valencia against Camille and Remy Hair Today.. Camille's done nothing here and it's UNFAIR to hold her BUSINESS association with Valencia against her.. I personally judge people on THEIR own actions not the actions of those around them. Because frankly, people just can't control the actions of other people. We can only be responsible for our own behavior and actions. If Valencia has offended people here, then so be it, but IMO we should be careful that we don't fall prey to the "guilt by association" theory. It's not a good way to judge others.. I have no opinion one way or another on the whole Valencia "controversy". I do see both sides of the conflict, but I truly have no feelings one way or another.. However, in reading the aftermath of this whole mess, it feels like an innocent business woman is going to share the blame for something she really wasn't involved with.. Camille didn't post in any of the Valencia threads on this forum.. Her husband posted understandably because he's trying to defend his wife's business and name from being sullyed by something she really wasn't involved in. And now even his posts are also being regarded with suspicion.. Forget Valencia for a minute.. If your wife was being called on the carpet publicly for something YOU KNOW SHE DIDN'T DO.. What would you do??? Look, I don't know Camille or her husband personally.. I found Camille because I had been researching remy hair, and have been talking to her about her product. I have spoken to her and exchanged a number of e-mails with her.. I found her patient, VERY knowledgable, and honest. I would not be planning to spend my money with anyone I thought was dishonest or scandalous. My point here is this, it seems like "Valencia Gate" is being taken a bit too far.. She's gone, and that should be it.. Are those who she associates with now going to be judged based on HER actions??  Is that even fair?? This is just my opinion, but I really hope we aren't going to jump to hasty conclusions.. Crystal

AMEN!!!! I totally agree 100%

sherrie215 wrote: Having said that....as business people Camille and her husband surely understand that the people that they associate themselves with is a direct reflection on them.  I dont know the extent of Valencias involvement in their business and I really dont care personally, it wouldnt stop me from buying their products if they were good, but the reality is that you are judged by the company you keep...not that that is necessarily fair.

But here's the thing about it.. Whether people do it or not.. It's NOT rational nor is it fair to judge people because someone they know/associate with expresses an opinion that others do not agree with. From where I sit it's really not about whether Valencia was right or whether those who did not like what she said (or how she said what she said) were right.. Valencia expressed an opinion that turned out to be unpopular with folks here. And that's fine.. EVERYONE involved had a right to feel the way they do.. The ower of this forum was free to take whatever action she felt appropriate in the matter.. I see both sides of this argument, and I have NO OPINION one way or another about the whole mess.. What I am saying still is let's not take this too far.. To assume that the owner or Remy Hair Today is of the same opinion when she has never said ANYTHING even remotely like the "offending comments" on this or any other forum is just plain wrong.. To my knowledge she has nowhere on this forum or any other forum (i.e. the BHF) expressed any such similar opinions.. The only person who owns and is responsible for what Valencia had to say is.. Valencia..

I just hope folks here don't mix apples and oranges.. IMO so far I like what Remy Hair Today offers, and I plan to make a purchase of her hair in a week or two. I will post my findings on her hair once I get it, in case someone else is interested in her product. I would just hope that cooler heads will prevail, and that the members of this forum will not judge Remy Hair Today or it's owner by ASSUMING that if she has some sort of an association with Valencia that this makes them the same person or of one mind or anything else. 

Remy Hair Today sells Remy Virgin Indian Hair. The owner is NOT a hairdresser, and she will sell to extension wearers, stylists and DIYs.. So let's talk about the quality of the hair, the quality of the service, the value/cost.. Since people read these forums to gather knowledge, isn't it only fair that the knowledge shared here should be based on facts or ACTUAL experiences with the vendor not CONJECTURE and ASSUMPTIONS??

sherrie215 wrote: I dont know if you got to read alot of the posts that were made in ValenciaGate as they were mostly deleted, but she also posted under another userID which turned out to be a KNOWN TROLL

I dont think anyone is jumping to hasty conclusions, I havent heard one bad word about Remyhairtoday. I think it was just brought to attention about Valencia and her connection to them. She is obviously more than just a customer...she does all the pretipping for that company, she is the fusion specialist on their website. And Camille links Valencia's business under her signature in every post on her forum.  So its obviously more than just Valencia being a customer. But I dont care...if Remyhairtoday has a good product line, Id still buy it. And Im sure anyone else would too.

As for your statement that we base our opinion on things such as

1. Gut feelings
2. (What I consider IMO) immature webdesign mistakes (borrowed pics, borrowed text)
3. Guilt by association

I dont agree, I think everyone here is looking for the same thing, great HAIR and I think we all try EVERYTHING out there in our search for the holy grail! As for the borrowed pics....do you know how many times Ive seen a Bohyme hair picture posted on a site that is selling CHEAP BSS quality hair? Now Im sorry... that is just misleading.

As for Valencia....since it keeps coming up. She was NOT banned for her comments that some found offensive, and yes I had a problem with her condesending attitude in the fusion specialist thread. Why would you come to a board with the majority of members being DIYers, and post comments about unqualified people doing it at home, and the references of imposters and unqualified were in EVERY SINGLE post she made. THAT was my only issue! I simply posted that I wished she would not use comments like that.

What got her banned....and most of you did NOT see it, were the posts in Synnes thread. The admin. acted very quickly and removed them, (Thank YOU) The posts were MEAN,CRUEL and downright NASTY. That is why she was BANNED.

sherrie215 wrote: As for your statement that we base our opinion on things such as Gut feelings (What I consider IMO) immature webdesign mistakes (borrowed pics, borrowed text) Guilt by association

sherrie215 wrote: As for the borrowed pics....do you know how many times Ive seen a Bohyme hair picture posted on a site that is selling CHEAP BSS quality hair? Now Im sorry... that is just misleading.

I've seen TONS of posts (Not just here.. on other forums too) where it was ASSUMED that because the site used celebrity or stock photos (that's what I call immature webdesign techniques) that the product was somehow compromised.. These kind of posts were made without making ONE SINGLE CONTACT with the vendor.. I saw one such post about a vendor I had been checking out.. So I contacted the vendor because they were on my list of places to check out... I asked a ton of questions via e-mail and on the phone.. They impressed me with their response time and their willingness to answer questions.. I felt comfortable with their answers, and I placed an order.. Turns out that this company actually had really nice hair, and the women I talked to were just as nice and knowledgable as can be. I did get a few bad wefts in my order, but the manager was so cool when I called about it.. She apologized profusely, and sent out new hair BEFORE I got a chance to return the hair with the bad wefts... As it turns out, the information posted was an incorrect assumption..

All I'm saying is that if this forum is an exchange of ideas and information, shouldn't we expect the members to report actual experiences, and not conjecture or suppositions.. Tell me about the HAIR!!! Okay.. so they used a picture of Halle Berry on their site.. Whatever.. Tell me about the HAIR.. What was the HAIR like???

sherrie215 wrote: I dont think anyone is jumping to hasty conclusions, I havent heard one bad word about Remyhairtoday. I think it was just brought to attention about Valencia and her connection to them. She is obviously more than just a customer...she does all the pretipping for that company, she is the fusion specialist on their website. And Camille links Valencia's business under her signature in every post on her forum.  So its obviously more than just Valencia being a customer.

sherrie215 wrote: As for Valencia....since it keeps coming up... What got her banned....and most of you did NOT see it..

sherrie215 wrote: ok Diva, I understand your position...its cool...lets move on and talk some HAIR girl!

Now you're talkin'!!! I'm cool wit' dat girlfriend!

malibu wrote: I didn't see any pictures of what they sell on this site. Am I missing something?

There's a MS Word document on the site that you can download which has pics of the hair.. For $3.00 (??) you can get samples of the hair too.. The hair is really pretty and the prices are not bad either.. I just bought a bunch of hair from Luxury Locs and RK Hair, so I have to wait until the hair warchest is built up again before I can buy anything else. (My husband has already made it clear that I am NOT to use the credit cards for hair anymore.. ) I hope to place an order with Remy Hair Today & Shrinkies.net really soon..

I'm trying out all kinds of hair because I want to see if I can find hair of equal quality (with a smaller pricetag) to EP.. Don't get me wrong.. I will ALWAYS love EP, and I will buy more EP hair eventually.. I just wanted to see what my alternatives were..

Did you order hair when you were at EP??

I purchashed hair from Camille and it is beautiful hair. I will use the hair on the weft the next time I purchase. My clients loved it, I am looking to order some on my next installs.

Shiry

i am just curoius, if valencia cant post here- or purhaps she is posting under a "new" name now- how is it Phil- the husband even knew to post something over here to us???

i am not getting into this drama just an observation ya know?

I don't think they change the price for the lighter colors.. When I was trying to place an order last week (before I realized I needed the hair sooner --I needed it in 4 days-- than Camille could get it to me), she had mentioned that she had some lighter browns in.. She didn't say the price was going to be any different.. I got the feeling the price was going to be the same.. (Since I didn't get to order, I don't know for sure if this is true)

She did say that the lighter colors go FAST when she gets them in. That's understandable since anything beyond dark brown to black colored natural Indian Hair would be a pretty uncommon find. (For me it won't matter since my stylist will be coloring the hair for me..) I want 1b with some soft brown highlights/lowlights..

TanglesRC wrote: i am just curoius, if valencia cant post here- or purhaps she is posting under a "new" name now- how is it Phil- the husband even knew to post something over here to us??? i am not getting into this drama just an observation ya know?

For the record here's part of my note and the 1st response..

Divavocals wrote: ...At least three of the EP alternates I have been considering are home based businesses.. I judged all of these businesses not on whether or not they were a home based or brick & mortar type of business,  but whether or not they all met my criteria/standards for a company I considered worthy of doing business with. I've checked out the Elite Remy hair, and the hair does look gorgeous.. They happen to be one of the EP alternates I had been looking at already. (the other site you mentioned was does not have wefted hair, so I hadn't looked at their product) I would like to  recommend that you check out  http://www.remyhairtoday.com/ - http://www.remyhairtoday.com . I only have one beef with Remy Hair Today...  I wish there was a way to mute the music on their website without having to turn off my computer speakers!!!

remyhairhusband wrote: Hello Divavocals, Just wanted to respond to your comment about my wife's site.  http://www.remyhairtoday.com/ - http://www.remyhairtoday.com Tried to respond earlier but had to wait for activation and such ;) I hope you have found the new sound scheme to work a bit better... I adjusted the volume to come in a bit lower and then fade to a softer background.  Also there was an option to mute but it was not labeled.  It is the small equalizer symbol on the upper right of the flash animation panel.  I did put some wording in with that to make it more apparent though. Hopefully these changes were noticed and make coming to the site a bit more enjoyable.   I'm by no means a flash expert and I've been working on modifying the existing flash to suit the site's needs.  The site also has a forum section and we would love to have people use it some more as well if they are so inclined. right now its mainly to get some questions answered that we seem to get alot of.  (i.e. FAQ) We do welcome comment and suggestions to help improve things.  I'm quite busy but I do try to help get things adjusted on the site when I can. Thank you everyone for many of the positive comments that we have seen around the different forums. My wife works very hard to get the best quality hair out to her customers. Thank you, Phil Remy Hair Today Webmaster ( http://www.remyhairtoday.com - http://www.remyhairtoday.com

Hey Diva, the blonde hair in th link at the beginning of this thread from Phil shows a picture of the blonde hair that they have for sale. Its a 4 ounce weft of 23/24 inch hair. On the forum Camille says it will go to the highest bidder. Thats why I say I wonder how much it will go for!

Hey Sherrie,

I never got past the FAQs on their forum (lol).. I just saw the blond hair.. It really looks pretty.. It also looks right up your alley girl..

The only thing is that this forum posting is from November.. I wonder if they even still have this particular hair.. Virgin unprocessed blond hair.. Wow.. Now that sound like the "holy grail" of hair to me..  I can't imagine it's still around..

Send Camille an e-mail or call her.. She is really good about responding.. Maybe you can be the lucky bidder.. If she doesn't have it, and you're interested, I know you can ask her to notify you when she gets more in.. I'm on a "wait" list for her remy closures. (which she hasn't started selling yet, but will be offering soon) I ordered a remy closure from Luxury Locs, but after chatting with Camille a while, I like the sound of the closures that Remy Hair Today will be offering.. (not to mention the price is really right) My stylist thinks I'm crazy for wanting to use a closure (I have PLENTY of hair for blending), but ever since I saw one on a girl in EP, I've been dying to try one..

sherrie215 wrote: I may just have to shoot her an email!

Let me know if she still has this blond hair, (and more importantly, how much you "negotiated" for it..)

I can't wait until I have free money to buy the hair I want from Remy Hair Today and Shrinkies.net.. I just have to figure out how to hide all this hair from my husband..  Looks like I might have free funds in a week or two.. I have been FORBIDDEN to use the credit cards anymore for hair.. For some reason my husband just doesn't see hair as a legitimate household expense..

Hi again.  We just returned from our trip.

Just wanted to say that originally we found this site through searching on google for remyhairtoday.com.  Like it was said before we like to see what has been said and to respond to any comments as needed.  I tried to join back on the 14th of Feb to respond to Divavocals that I had adjusted our website in reaction to her comments.  If one person has a beef with a site then obviously others would too.

I work in IT so I'm on the computer alot even when I'm not at work. I also like to establish links and contacts so that my wife's business will grow.

We had a comment on another forum a while back that a lady said she had tried to email us but never received a reply. The problem was that my wife had replied...the lady's work email had filtered the response to a junk mail folder. By responding to her on that forum she was able to find out what happened and see that we had indeed responded.

Also my wife has found that there are alot of people; both stylists and their customers who really just do not know how to deal with hand-weft hair, or even natural remy hair because they are so used to store bought hair.

She is working on expanding what we do a little bit but wants to offer services that we can do well. The pre-tipping service is something that is done through Valencia because my wife knows Valencia and knows she does excellent work. So that is a service that my wife has provided by outsourcing it to Valencia. Trust me, we have enough work to do with just the hair alone, not to mention deal with everything else we do.  We do not just order hair and then repackage and ship it. My wife spends alot of time getting the hair ready for her customers by washing and conditioning the hair once she receives it. This helps make sure hair is in good condition plus tests the wefts for any problems.

My wife does the majority of the work and responds to 99% of the emails she receives...the other 1% I respond to (under careful dictation from her) so that her hands are free.  My mother and her mom help when they can.

As for hair colors and prices. Since the hair is natural hair we get all shades of browns and blacks. I dont know the numbers for the hair colors. Prices for the hair are determined by length, texture and format (bulk or weft). Special colors like that blonde are much harder to get so obviously they are priced according to demand.

Just remember...the hair is natural so it can be dyed to required colors very easily.

malibu wrote: I didn't order hair from EP yet. I want to soon. They're pricey so that's why I'm not ready. I think it's so cool that they can match your hair color perfectly. Have you had that done from them? Did they cut a sample of your hair? If so, from where? how much?

malibu wrote: I noticed with EP's hair that when you run your fingers through it, it tangles at the bottom. Is that normal? I know they have excellent quality so I wasn't expecting my fingers to have to work through the bottom. BTY, what is a closure?

A closure is a piece that is bonded or sewn in to the crown area. It would have a microfilament or latex piece under the hair that looks like a natural part.. Next time you go to EP ask them to show them to you.. A few of the girls who work there wear 'em.. and TRUST me.. You would never know just looking.. They were nice enough to let me see their hair.. I really love that they stand by their products so much that the people who work there wear the hair.. Wonder if they have any part time jobs.. The employee discount must be awesome!

Diva Vocals is your stylist doing a sew in or fusion on your hair. I just spoke with camille about the weft hair, I have not used it yet. I have only used the bulk hair.

Shiry

Divavocals did your stylist cut your wefts? Your hair is very nice.

Shiry

Sherrie and Diva,

I just read through this thread and wanted to comment on how impressed I  was while reading your comments back and forth to each other. It's a breath of fresh air to see that it's possible on this forum to have differences of opinions, talk about them, and move on without hurtful words. I hope that it's noticed by others, and your power of example in this thread will turn this board back to the main focus-hair, where can I get it, how much is it,do you like it,have you tried it, what do you think of this hair and on and on!

Amen!

Oh...by the way Diva, I did email Camille about that blonde hair, and waiting to hear!

To be honest, I love the hair. It is a good 'investment', well for me it is. LOL And as stated before Camille knows her stuff and if you have questions or whatever she does answer then truthfully and prompt. So Sherrie, you and others that go with RHT will not be disappointed. Good luck with the bid!