This thread would look so hot with short hair!!!!!!

I'm guitly of most of the above mistakes and I for one think you have great thoughts and I will try to do my part to get better.

Thanks for you post!

Curlyfan,

While you make some excellent points, I must say that this board seems to have this arguement, long v short, LOL & Wigs For Kids & Great Lengths, every couple of years.  As long as we keep it respectful, I think they should be vetted here every now and then.  To ignore what people think and feel is to first ignore reality and second defeat part of the purpose of this board.

I may get frustrated with the seeming lack of tolerance that both long and short hair folks show at times, but I never take it personally.  When people talk about their preferences, that is just that, their preferences.  It doesn't make them good or bad, right or wrong, it just makes them individuals.

Things would be pretty boring if everyone always agreed about everything else. 

Well said.  Harumph, Harumph, Harumph as the cabinet of William J. LePetomaine said in "Blazing Saddles".

And to ssjockey, I agree the LoL argument and other cycle through from time to time, but I think the larger points can be summed up pretty simply: Think back to the earlier days of the board and how many posts or threads you simply skipped without reading vs. today.  How many times to do you blow right past responses because you know what they are going to be five words into reading them?  That's assuming the post is longer than five words ("She looks great!")

To me the most important sentence in Curlyfan's whole post is "Post thoughtful opinions, not old standards."  Pretty much sums it up for me.

JF

hannebash wrote: Hal, shut up! You think every thread looks better with short hair and I'm sick of it! Now Kramer will show up and tell everyone how hot this thread will look with long hair and how this thread was an idiot for getting it's hair cut in the first place!

Hannebash.... not to sharp today huh?  Not eating well?  Lack of sleep?  Maybe you can spend a night at a Holiday Inn soon.  My statement about "short hair" was my admission of guilt followed by my agreement with Curlyfan and then my promise to try and do better.  But you just want to be mean?........ oh yeah.....let me not forget this ->

Actually, Curlyfan is very mistaken if he believes there was some golden time in the past when everything was "fun" and there were never any angry posters or postings. Things are pretty well documented over the last year or two, but to see proof beyond this, take a look at the arguments Gord had in the past with various people on this board. Also, Ononotdon. Maybe, Curly missed them, as he doesn't post very often and seems to be absent for long periods of time.

BTW, why on earth should Kramer say he likes short hair if he doesn't? Would hearing this give some kind of vicarious pleasure to the other members here? I don't think so. In fact Curly's "originality" is merely the regurgitation of a point that is often stated here by JF himself--as is the criticism of posts that allow pictures to speak for themselves--the so called "look at her hair" posts (a point not touched upon by Curly). As for good grammar, correct spelling, etc. It's a nice ideal--but I don't think any of us are going to be able to teach Hal to spell correctly! Furthermore, it's best not to be obssessed about this on a hair board. I remember that some time ago, JF criticised a poster on this kind of basis and it turned out that the writer involved was physically disabled.

Finally, to put things in perspective, look at the ratio this thread has of postings to views. A few people are interested in these matters, but clearly most are not.

fatmoogas wrote: Actually, Curlyfan is very mistaken if he believes there was some golden time in the past when everything was "fun" and there were never any angry posters or postings.

Au contraire, mon fraire (sp?).  Note the date joined on my signature to the left.  Been here a bit longer than you (as has Curlyfan, who didn't officially register until last year).   There was indeed such a time and several folks have been kicked from this board and site for getting a bit carried away and driving the board far from it's purpose and reason for being.

fatmoogas wrote: Things are pretty well documented over the last year or two, but to see proof beyond this, take a look at the arguments Gord had in the past with various people on this board. Also, Ononotdon.

Um, not sure if you intended this to bolster your argument, but it actually supports Curlyfan's...

fatmoogas wrote: Maybe, Curly missed them, as he doesn't post very often and seems to be absent for long periods of time.

Would you say the same of me just because I don't post constantly?  I read this board everyday.  Just because he, I, or others don't post daily is not a sign that we are absent, more a sign of we don't feel we need to comment on every post that goes up on the board.  People differ on what thoughts they consider worthy of a post.

fatmoogas wrote: BTW, why on earth should Kramer say he likes short hair if he doesn't? Would hearing this give some kind of vicarious pleasure to the other members here? I don't think so.

Never said he should.  KramerGord will lament every long hair cut that is mentioned on this board.  Bob S will see every long hair cut as a tragic violation of the woman on which it was perpetrated. Others will praise every short cut.  His point is if we know that's what's coming then odds are when I see the poster's name and can guess what they are writing, I'll blow right past it.  If they take the time to give some additional angle to their opinion, or periodically go against what you'd expect, then I get interested.

Every once in a while when Kramer extols the virtues of a medium to short style, I'll get very interested because something about it had to peak his interested.  Am I'm curious as to what that could be.  Makes for more interesting reading.  Make sense?

fatmoogas wrote: In fact Curly's "originality" is merely the regurgitation of a point that is often stated here by JF himself--as is the criticism of posts that allow pictures to speak for themselves--the so called "look at her hair" posts (a point not touched upon by Curly).

Hey, so he didn't hit them all.  Nobody's perfect.

fatmoogas wrote: As for good grammar, correct spelling, etc. It's a nice ideal--but I don't think any of us are going to be able to teach Hal to spell correctly! Furthermore, it's best not to be obssessed about this on a hair board. I remember that some time ago, JF criticised a poster on this kind of basis and it turned out that the writer involved was physically disabled.

Point taken.  However, for those of us who have the ability to make our posts coherent and readable, it's common courtesy to do so.

fatmoogas wrote: Finally, to put things in perspective, look at the ratio this thread has of postings to views. A few people are interested in these matters, but clearly most are not.

Almost 450 views as I write this.  Discounting multiple views by the same people, if 100-200 folks got something out of his posting his suggestion, them I'm glad he did it.  And my guess is that those that chose not to be interested are generally the very ones that SHOULD be reading it.

Later,
JF

fatmoogas wrote: Can't remember Kramer ever saying that he liked a short cut on a woman. Seriously though, the only issue that at present seems to cause major friction on the board is LOL (and very likely Curly was referring to recent posts on this made as a result of the Ann Curry thread). Again, I respectfully suggest that beyond the odd reference, this is not the board on which to have major discussions about LOL.

And my point is this thread is only very peripherally about the whole LoL discussion.  Much of Curlyfan's points (and mine) don't have anything to do with LoL.

And though it is rare, Kramer has actually liked styles that weren't long.  Really, it's happened.

JF

fatmoogas wrote: Can't remember Kramer ever saying that he liked a short cut on a woman. Seriously though, the only issue that at present seems to cause major friction on the board is LOL (and very likely Curly was referring to recent posts on this made as a result of the Ann Curry thread). Again, I respectfully suggest that beyond the odd reference, this is not the board on which to have major discussions about LOL.

I am surprised the turn this post has taken, I really thought posters would either pass it by with almost no responses or post "Hey, good thoughts Curly".

And lastly, I feed my hair adiction while attempting to keep my day job so I have nither the want or time to spell check my posts.  Yes, I really do spell this bad and type even worse... anyone wishing to correct my spelling, typing and grammar problems, please feel free to do so... I'll not complain. 

humm.. maybe this post needs to be moved too...lol

Are y'all saying Kramer & Gord are the same person? Come to think of it, it has been a while since I've seen Gord's name on a post.