Help me *Mental Breakdown*
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Topic: Help me *Mental Breakdown*
Posted By: Brandiwine21
Subject: Help me *Mental Breakdown*
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 3:33am
Well not exactly,
but I just got some microrings and not confident I can do it myself!! They're so small and I wonder if I have enough (200). I have to pretip my hair, but before that, I have to perm it So much to do! I'm scareeeed.. Where do I begin??
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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 10:53am
Lol lol, don't worry 200 should be plenty, especially if you have curly hair. Just have a glass of wine (a small one lol). The first row is the hardest, once you've done that you'll find its a lot easier to take your sections x
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Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 11:06am
Perming the extension hair is tricky business. You might just want to find some that's already curly.
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Posted By: Naked Eye
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 11:09am
Yeah, just breathe, you will be fine. 200 should be okay, just becareful,
sometimes I use closer to 300 or even 350 (I think it's probably just my
hair type) it will be fun once you get it going, ok, I lied, but you will do it
all again in a heart beat once you see the result in the end!!
Goodluck! Just breathe!
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Posted By: Brandiwine21
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 4:45pm
Oh my god,
You guys are the best!!! I was so afraid, but I'm gonna take u up on that suggestion Amanda I don't drink much, but I will a bit for this! hahahah.
And metalgirl, the hair is pure virgin, unprocessed remy from one donor. Will the perming still be a bad idea? My natural hair is curly and I prefer to wear it like that. But willing to accept any suggestions.
Oh, and is pretipping with silicone cement a bad idea? I saw a post on how to do it, but before seeing it, I was considering it. I really love the texture of this hair and want to reuse it.
Thanks everyone!!  
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Posted By: UFOKommando
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 2:39pm
Brandiwine please let me know how you like the micro rings. I am thinking about using them in my hair. I am just a little concerned that they will get hot when I use the blowdryer. Have you ever installed extensions before? I have sewn weaves onto cornrow tracks but I have never used micro rings so I am nervous! Good luck on your install!
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Posted By: Brandiwine21
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 3:03pm
Thank you :)
I will definitely post pics when Im done. The only problem I have is the the hair is bone straight, but my hair is curly. I'm gonna try to have a salon do the perm...let ya know how that goes :)
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Posted By: longhairaddict
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 6:45pm
I am surprised true virgin indian hair is bone straight. I bought
some from Extensions Plus that is the natural body and it matches my
natural curl perfectly. From what I have seen virgin bone
straight is really hard to find, but I could be wrong. So far
with all the hair I have bought it has been much curlier after I wash
and dry it.
The silicone microrings rule. It is a little awkward at first but
after a few rows you will be a pro. I have only lost one strand
in 6 weeks, I can't believe it!!!! I can't work with the medium
ones on myself, the large works better since I tend to pull out the
middle of the silicone with the medium ones in areas I can't see very
well. Unfortunately I usually realize this after I have crushed
it, so I have to remove it and start over. My hair is
pretty curly so the rings aren't hard to hide, the large ones are a
little bulkier than the unlined but well worth it. With the
regular unlined metal tubes I used before I lost 2 or 3 everytime I
washed my hair, these are great!!
I tipped with E6000 which is silicone and I am very impressed.
They are holding up soooo much better than the ends of the hair I
bought previously pre-tipped.
Good luck, but I would look into buying some naturally curly indian hair.....it is everywhere.
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Posted By: Naked Eye
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 7:11pm
UFO- They don't get heated up when blow-dried, well, atleast I haven't
had any problems. The only thing is when I flat iron my hair (my flat iron
gets REALLY HOT) if I go over the links alot, they will start to loosen up
and slide from the heat.
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Posted By: gsmilie
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 7:57pm
Naked eye, how do the rings compare to the pro-tac in coverage? I am really interested in them, because unlike shrinkies, you don't have any residue to remove. but I had a hard time hiding my shrinkies when ever I pulled my hair up into a pony, and I couldn't wear it pulled back in a barret either.
So, what do you think?
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Posted By: Naked Eye
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 9:04pm
Gsmilie- Yeah, the microlinks rock because of the no-residue thing.
Otherwise, the coverage wasn't bad. I never had any problems with the
showing anywhere except at the part, I had a nice layer covering, but they
would always peep out. Other parts were fine, and I have to wear my hair
up everyday for work, still no problem.
The reason why I switched to pro-tacs was because of the volume and the
coverage. I just can't get it full enough with strand by strand. And I would
always have little guys peeping out and being caught in pictures.
But now that I've been doing the top row with clip-ins with pro-tacs, I am
thinking of carrying that over to microlinks. I think my hair just isn't long
or thick enough on the top to cover everything.
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Posted By: Brandiwine21
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 9:18pm
Thanks longhair,
yea I think I'll get it naturally curly this time. The problem is, it's hard to find it in textures I like. I'm Black and want a texture that more or less matches mine b/c I love my own hair . It's just short and I'm growing it out after cutting off my relaxer. However, I don't find many tight curl virgin remy products, and if I do, they charge too much.
So alas I got it permed today and it set me back $75. That's expensive I wanted to do it myself, but I've never done one or seen one so I didn't wanna mess it up. So I take it to hair cuttery, I was glad the stylist said she'd do it b/c I called other places that wouldn't. So I showed her pics of what I wanted, even pulled a piece of my hair out of my ponytail and showed her. She said no problem. I also showed her some rods I thought would be good, and she said they were smaller than what I wanted. So I told her that I did a roller set with those same rollers and they came out bigger. She then told me that the rod she was gonna use (white) would hold the curl to that diameter b/c it's chemically altered.
So long story short, she does the service, and the curls are so big. My real hair is not this loose, and I don't want them to be. But ah well, u live and learn.
Also, I asked her questions, being curious and new to perms, about the chemicals etc. and I was so unimpressed about what she knew. She was like clueless about everything I asked her. Plus, I paid attention to how she cut the hair and rolled it etc. and she just didn't know what she was doing. THIS IS WHY I LOVE DIY!! I don't get it. Why is it that the so-called experts do as worse as you would? No offense to the many, very experienced stylists on this board, but it's frustrating to entrust your hair (real or paid for) to someone, and they act as if they've got a blindfold on and u spun them around three times before doing your hair. It seemed like I knew more than she did!! And I don't do hair as a profession.
Anyway, the hair is under the dryer. I'm scared it won't shrink up enough but I'll see. I'll post pics too. After that, I'm gonna get the silicone from the store and pretip, then install with these tiny wittle rings
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Posted By: Brandiwine21
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 10:42pm
Ok, here's the link: http://public.fotki.com/Brandiwine21/permed_chinese_remy-1/ - http://public.fotki.com/Brandiwine21/permed_chinese_remy-1/
I don't know how to put the pic in the post. I'm so upset with this job. As you'll see, the curls are large and sloppy. What should I do? Can I have the stylist do it again? Will this damage the hair?? I don't want to have wasted money
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Posted By: gsmilie
Date Posted: March 18 2006 at 11:19pm
Well it definitly doesn't look "permed" to me, and you said that she used a white rod? Well, I do know from experience that once you put some layers in the hair it will "spring" up some, but probably not to what you want. How does the hair feel? Is it really dryed out? I would maybe soak it in some olive oil for at least a day, then wash really well, condition and then maybe think about perming it again yourself.
What do the experts think????? I'm not a pro, but if it were my hair that is what I would do.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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Posted By: Brandiwine21
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 12:14am
The hair actually feels the same. Maybe b/c it's chinese it needed to be processed longer? She said it would take about 20 min. max to process, but apparently not. Maybe I should ask for a refund. I don't know how this works. I definitely would try doing it myself, but only if I get my money back. After seeing what a 'professional' does, I'm no longer afraid to perm on my own.
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Posted By: longhairaddict
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 5:17pm
Actually, I was just going to say that Chinese hair has a reputation
for being extremely hard to curl. I would imagine that is where
everything went wrong, but I don't know for sure. I now know how
you got the hair bone straight, I originally thought it was Indian hair.
Wasting money sure is a pain in the ass, if you cant use it you might
as well try perming it again.....or selling it. I swear I've
wasted more money on this "hobby" than all my others combined.
Thank goodness we have a board like this or I'd be wasting waaaay
more!!!!
I can see how your curl would be hard to match, which makes sense why
you want to perm it. I'm thinking about ordering from
indainhairs.com which is also raw hair, maybe you would have good luck
with that? I'm sure other members would be more qualified to tell
you if Indian hair perms well. I totally agree with the DIY
thing, I feel better if I screw it up than paying someone else to screw
it up lol. There are a few great pros out there, but sometimes it
is hard to weed through the wackos.
Good luck!!!!
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Posted By: Brandiwine21
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 6:13pm
longhair you're such a doll
I was so frustrated by this situation that it makes it easier when someone else can relate. I took the hair back to have her perm it again, and when I told the stylist and her boss that perhaps the solution wasn't left on long enough b/c Asian hair is coarse, she takes a strand, feels it and says no, this feels pretty fine to me. And I just wanted to her haha. It's not how silky the hair feels, it's the structure of the cuticle!!! Sigh..but anyway, maybe tomorrow it'll look better...I really hope.
This hair hobby is becoming expensive to me as well. I originally got into extensions as a way to grow my hair out, and thought that it would be pretty straight forward: buy top quality hair, install, wait for my hair to grow, voila. But it's not that simple, and it's alot of trial and error that'll get u that perfect install.
I came across indianhairs before and will definitely give them a try. I was interested in hair from Peru, but some posters said they got ripped off, so I don't wanna go that route. Anywhere else to buy curly hair and it's too expensive. The other option is supplying photos of curly styles to whichever fav hair vendor and having them copy it. They're pretty good with that, but then again, the hair would be processed so..the search continues
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