Hi girly4216,

I think you'll find my Website on "Chemical Hair Straightening" to be quite informative http://www.verticalsinhair.com - http://www.verticalsinhair.com

I also have a TR Forum (Thermal Reconditioning, also known as Japanese Hair Straightening)  http://www.verticalsinhair.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl - http://www.verticalsinhair.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl

Steve

You're very welcome girly4216!

Steve

Thank you very much Sharyg11! You’re very good to me. All of a sudden, you make my heart sing.

Thank you,

Steve

Thermaionic is really good! If you pay too less then it's not good. Check around for prices. It takes about 4-6 hours. You might have to pay $100 and up. Under $100 I wouldn't go there. You need to ask how many relaxers they have done on white hair. Don't go to a black salon because black hair requires speacial needs then white hair. I am speaking  professionally. I would be affraid of a salon where they do less white straightening. They will have too strong of a chemical. White hair require less. You need to tell the stylist if you have ever done anything chemically at home or another shop in the last year! Most failed hair jobs go bad because of lack of infromation form the client. Good luck and I hope this helps.

Ps. If still worried have the stylist do a test strand on you. If still worried don't do it.

I know Sharyg11, but I still wanted to thank YOU and I didn’t know how! Much love to you as well.

Steve

Hi Jlabradors,

You’re almost right about Black salons, but not all Black salons. The majority of Black salons use sodium hydroxide relaxer method, hence they are not versed with the thioglycolate method.

girly4216 had mentioned Rusk (most likely she meant Rusk STR8) and Bio Ionic so her reference is about Japanese Hair Straightening (aka Thermal Reconditioning or for short 'TR'. Thermal Ionic was a Jherri Redding product and then Babyliss bought them out. Thermal Ionic, had been discontinued in Canada and probably the same will happen in the USA, but that’s besides the point. Thermal Ionic was not a good TR System to begin with.

I am sorry, but the price people pay has no bearing to the results they receive. Besides, the minimum price I saw on the boards for the TR service in North America is $250 and the majority of salons add additional charges for hair cut and hair treatment, so the cost goes up.

Salons that charge $250 have their apprentices doing the process. The apprentice or new stylist doesn't really understand what they're doing; they just do as told. Moreover, they use 2 or 3 guys doing the process, which is wrong to begin with and that is why there are so many botched TR jobs. No one does TR for $100!!! My start price is $650 and it always includes hair Treatment immediately after the TR service.

Also, most failed jobs is NOT necessarily because of lack of information given by the client; in fact, it is the lack of proper consultation and lack experience and skill on the part of the stylist himself or herself and NOT the client, so it is not the client's mistake. The client pays for the services by trusting the salon and or stylist, thinking that they are the pros and they know what they're doing. NOT SO!!! It is too sad to see so many people do not receive the service they willingly paid for.

And as for your reference in “telling the stylist if you have ever done anything chemically at home or another shop in the last year”. Actually, one year is not enough! Especially if the client’s hair was previously relaxed with lye (Sodium Hydroxide) relaxer or no-lye (lithium, potassium or calcium hydroxide or guanidine carbonate) relaxer.

PS- Everyone should read my posting of today on my TR Forum Subject: Timing for each Process. Here is the link  http://www.verticalsinhair.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Messages;action=display;num=1144959162 - http://www.verticalsinhair.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Me ssages;action=display;num=1144959162

Steve

Hello Steve ,

What do you think about straightening a man with shorter hair?  How short is too short? He's hair isn't that curly it's just wavy. Really thick. He would have to grow it out before staightening. But how long? What would you do? Thank you, have a nice day.

Hey Steve,

Do you perm hair too? See ya on-line!

Yes of course I do jlabradors!  If a stylist doesn't understand the science of permanent waving then they wouldn't know how to safely and effectively straighten/TR the hair either.

Steve

Hello Steve,

What about staightening a mans hair that is only 4 inches long. Would you do that? Do you ever come across people who don't perm? I have a client that won't take a perm. I will reperm. Do you have any advice on hard to perm hair? Thank you for making sure you answer all of my questions. I thank you for you time. j