How long does it take for you to get your hair done at a salon...btw have you ever noticed that at a white salon they get out like in 30 minutes but at a blk salon ppl get out in 2,3,4,sometimes all day is there a reason why and what can you do to shorten the time frame

It only takes me about an hour to an hour and a half, but I usually go to get a relaxer, wash, deep condition, and trim all at the same time. I only go to the salon when I need a touch up. I've never been in a salon for over 2 hours.

White people are there for the same amount of time only if they're getting a perm or haircolor. My sis-in-law goes to the salon only for an occasional wash and trim....and that's IT, no chemicals, no deep condition. Of course she isn't going to be in there for the same amount of time that I'm there. 

Amen Cookie. I was about to post that as well.

There is so much comparing going on in all of your posts and it really makes me wonder...something deeper is going on. Do you visit White Salons? I haven't went to one, therefore, I can't tell you how long someone stays in one. Well wait a minute, I have been in a DIVERSE salon and men and women of all colors were there for long periods of time no matter the hair length.

So is there something that you need to discuss? I understand people are curious but all of your posts are basically the same.  Also, various members have posted links for you such as http://www.longhaircommunity.com - www.longhaircommunity.com where it is diverse but the majority is of White European descent. The hair care on there is basically the same that we do in this particular forum...just the hair texture is different. I'm starting to feel that placing links as a reference is not working and you are looking past the obvious. Hair is hair it grows... and if you don't like  a stylists then find a new one...

wow sorry  i  was just asking questions out of curiosity......excusssse me

I thought this forum was for asking questions in reference to hair .....all i asked was why does it take 2,3,4, hours to relax and it seems to only tak one hour for a perm (for white people) i was wondering was there something different going on. Im a 24 yr old woman and very well aware that my hair and a blondes hair is totally different. There is no deep seeded issue here just a question out of curiosity no need to get rude ladies .....geez cant ask a question around her w/o getting attitudes

quote : EXSCUSE TWinklettoes23...no one said "you want to change your texture" as you have stated, obviously you are misjudging us. Our questions have came from concern and curiousty just like YOURS. We have answered every question about BLACK/WHITE throughout this entire board...so you should be alot more appreciative that we have taken the time out to do it.  We just asked a simple question, just as you did, and now we get the attitude.  Not my problem...and furthermore, I respond to any post however and whenever I please.

No NO No sweetie EXCUSE ME ...but you have implied that everytime i asked a question its full fo nothing but comparing "blk hair" to "white hair" which isnt true. If you are going to make accusations i sugest you have evidence to back it up. I have asked questions about different processes yes and why they are different from one hair texture to another but i have only asked a couple of times. As i recall most of my questions are about hair beakage something A LOT of people here have askd about! I did not give out an attitude until it was given to me first! So dish out what you cant take given back to you! BTW I said that if my questions bother you so much the why are you responding i never said "never respond to my post again" its your right to respond to any post you please just as it is my right to ask any questions i feel like and if you dont like it then thats a little bit of too damn bad! So what ive asked a few questions so  have other people again isnt this board for people who want to know more about hair?! Instead of intelligent thought out answers i get attitude from you cremesweet! If my post bother you so much well then whats the old saying "you can either stop or dry on by sister"!

QUOTE : This is the African American hair section of
hairboutique,, not the "Compare your hair to other
Races" section..

I am well aware of this and as i recall my questions were just questions of curiosity. Asking a question as to why the serebrum doesnt move all the way down the hair shaft evevn when it is relaxed is a very valid question in my opinion soorry if you dont see it like that

well you guys im done with this post it is getting old and getting out of hand sorry if my post bother you people so much. i refuse to argue with such rude people so  am not responding to this particular post any more have fun arguing with yourselves

btw cremsweet sweetie i never told you where you could or couldnt respond...respond as much as your little heart desires doesnt mean im going to pay attention to them.

TwinkletOes23 wrote: Again just a question out of curiosity there is no need to get rude  ! I ask a few questions about differences i observe and i want answers and you ppl harp all over me for it. I see that here if a person ask about diffewrences in texture and why certain things are diferent  you are percieved as trying to change your hair texture to be like other people and thast a gross misjudgement. If you have such a problem with my post then dont YOU respond! Geez!

Honestly, I agree with them. A good portion of your posts do seem that way to me too. It's the reason I haven't answered any as of late. I just considered it curiosity though. (just wanted to let you know that this isn't something they are just coming up with out of the blue)

ETA - No one is being rude to you. Go back and check.

quote : Honestly, I agree with them. A good portion of your posts do seem that way to me too. It's the reason I haven't answered any as of late. I just considered it curiosity though.

It is out of curiosity which I thought was ok on this forum....so i ask questions about differences in textures is that so awful? I ask a couple of questions and I get that i have a deep seeded issue that needed to be addressed no i just want to know things such as "why realaxer thin your hair at the ends or why blk salons dont use the round brush method as much" i mean these arent horrid questions. Maybe they werent being rude but it sure came across to me that they were...the thing tht got me so angry was that i felt i was being attacked when all id did was ask a couple of questions....i mean whats the difference in me asking "whats the best hot oil treatment" and "why do some salonist have bad attitudes"? I dont get it  I thought all questions were welcome as long as they were about hair. Cremesweet and pickled guese sorry i was wrong to fly off the handle as such but i was feeling attacked.....hope you guys accept my apology...

If im not welcxome anymore on this forum i will bow out gracefully i just didnt know my questions bothered so many ppl

It's not those questions that they are talking about. Those are fine questions, you mentioned there.

Since you truly seem to feel they are wrongly accusing you of this, I'm going to refresh your memory and show you. Each post below is from a different thread that you started. These are by no means all of the racial posts you have made, but they are just the ones dealing with comparisons between the races. I probably didn't get them all, I don't know. I'd say you were a little hooked on, and very interested in  comparing the races just from all these threads. All this is where they are getting the idea that you have some deep rooted issues with it. I don't know if you do or not, nor do I care. It's not for me to say anyways, so I would never tell you that.

Keep in mind that these are the things people are talking about. As stated in this quote:

I was comment on probably 70 % of ur posts on here, most of them are questions regarding black hair vs white hair! Im surprised that you yourself have not noticed this,

I highlighted the main parts:

Twinkletoes wrote: I mean if instead of relaxers when we wanted straight hair we just blow dried it straight and used a flat iron like curly haired white chicks do?

Twinkletoes wrote: I have several white buddies who get thier hair cut then BOOM in a couple of months its back down to thier waist or shoulders is there somethig im missing how come my hair doesnt do that

Twinkletoes wrote: why is it that my white buddies can just pull thier hair up into a pony tail and i always have to use a brush to tame the wild bits??

Twinkletoes wrote: Ok you know how when women of other races move of tilt thier heads thier hair kinda moves with them i mean when they turn thier heads thier hair kinda flows with them.....why doesnt aa hair do this ?????  ?

Twinkletoes wrote: Why is it that ppl of other races can happily sleep on cotton pillow cases and wear wool hats and we cant what is it about our hair thats different its cold and i like wearing my wool coat and hat it keeps me warm darnit ?

Twinkletoes wrote: why do white women have all the info in the world to know how to take care of thier hair?

Twinkletoes wrote: ..what about growth rate? It seems that thier hair grows faster...btw i was asking did white ppl have it easier when it comes to wash and go methods as opposed to black women with relaxed hair ?

But you can continue to post your questions if you want. Noone is going to stop you. Nor should they, IMO. Ask away. Someone will probably always give you an answer, so it will be worth it to you. Just know that some people are looking at your posts like was stated in this thread (probably not all people on here, but some) and you actually are doing what they say. It seems you've somehow forgotten what you posted this stuff and fail to see what they are saying though. Lucky I have lots of time on my hands at almost 2am in the morning.

All people don't like my posts and they tell me sometimes in not so nice ways. I am still here and on other forums though inspite of it. Just because people don't like your ideas, questions, and/or writing style is no reason for you to run away. Everyone will have an opinion of you and what you do everywhere. You won't always agree with it either. That's just how the world works.

I wasnt trying to be like OH GAWD how come my hair cant be like caucasian hair...i was just like ok why is it that the textures behave in such different ways its curiosity. I assumed that this was what the purpose of this forum is for....if some ppl want to see my post as ALWAYS comparing "blka and white hair" then let em

Quote  have several white buddies who get thier hair cut then BOOM in a couple of months its back down to thier waist or shoulders is there somethig im missing how come my hair doesnt do that

Looking at these questions i could see where some could get that idea but that is not the way i ment it these werent comparisons they were questions VALID questions about differences in how hair textures behave and if someone doesnt like it then tough they will have to get over it. I mean I cnat believe ppl would be so mean oN A HAIR FOURM i mean its not like this is some politically charged forum its just a place to talk about hair...sometimes i wonder if ppl here take this place too seriously

I think yall shouldn't be so heated...hair is hair...all hair comes with a set of problems and differences. No two heads are alike.

You can't compare a person of african desent to a person of european desent's hair because they are different. It's genectics...this forum was made so with african american deent can talk about THERE hair, not a caucasian persons hair.

quote : I know it looks like everyone is
ganging up on you but you vehemently deny that you
did make posts of that kind,, so u needed to actually
see them and no this isnt a politically charged forum
at all but you keep up bringing up white vs black over
and over and its hard to ignore and its kinda sad if
u ask me

Yeah yeah people are offended by my questions are they how so? How can a question about hair texture be offending to someone? Like i have said b4 i was only asking out of curiosity.......Besides you act as if all my post are about blk/wht hair and that just isnt true :

post 1 : i have always wondered is blk women left thier hair in its natural state would our hair health be a lot better ? I mean if instead of relaxers when we wanted straight hair we just blow dried it straight and used a flat iron like curly haired white chicks do? i mean now morethan ever we have non chemical ways of straightening our hair.....if we didnt use chemicals would our hair be strong enough naturally to stand up to flat irons and blow dryers better? im sorry not to down relaxers i guess im just ranting :(

Post 2 :

Well why is it that they tell you not to scratch 72 hours before getting relaxed i mean why is it if i scratch on thurday and get my hair done sunday my scalp will burn.

Another thing is why do relaxers burn at all i mean whats in the relaxers that causes the burning sensation

one more thing why dont they just relax the hair it seems as though they always purposely put the relaxer on the scalp i mean the scalp doesnt need to be straightened does it?

Post 3 : OK lately ive been afraid to use them because you guys have said that they block moisture from getting in BUT is there an type of cone that isnt as bad as dimethicone....you know a kinda cone that brushes out easier ?

post 4 : I dont know whats going on ever since i lost my mango butter ive been in tears ive had nothing but breakage  the optimum stuiff makes my hair really soft but its like im missing something plz some suggestions

post 5 :

OK like i said mango butter is gone :( so now im using optimum oil therapy hair and scalp quencher by shoft sheen but im not sure about the ingrdients there isnt any minerla oil or petroleum thankfully but what about threse ingrdients:

Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride , Isopropyl Myristate , Elaeis Guineensis/Palm Oil , C18-36 Acid Triglyceride , Paraffin , C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate , Cyclopentasiloxane , Olea Europaea Olive Fruit Oil , Simmondsia Chinensis Jojoba Seed Oil , Cocos Nucifera Coconut Oil , Persea Gratissima Avocado Oil , Parfum Fragrance , Propylparaben , BHT , Butylphenyl Methylpropional , Amyl Cinnamal , Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde , Benzyl Salicylate , Limonene , Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone , Citronellol , 2-Oleamido-1,3 Octadecanediol

post 6 : My hair feels well how can i put it um not smooth i mean i didnt moisturize it for like thre days (because like i said walmart decided to pull mango butter off the shelves and i wasnt going to use anything with petrolum and/or mineral oil in it so i guess im paying the price but i did use smoothing milk from garnier but i just didnt use a "moisturizer" so the question is what should i do to maximize the moisture in my hair now that im using the optimum hair and scalp quencher or yeah should i apply it directly to my scalp?

post 7 :I cant believe it the walmarts where i live (middle ga) quit selling mango butter i even went to Sallys beauty suply and they dont even have it right now im using optimum hair and scalp quencher i like it alright but i want my mango butter back know where i can find it other than online

Post 8 : The crazy woman told my mama that i used too many hair products on my hair? What does she mean by that all i have to say is i only use five things tops AND my hair is healthy and growing......she only says that because i dont buy her high priced stuff....why is it the "good stuff" for your hair the stuff they only sell in the shop for 25 dollard a piece. I mean she charges 8.99 for hair moisturizing creme! Thannks but no thanks ill keep using my mango butter 

post 9 : Ive heard several ppl say "white folks cant do relaxers" but a buddie of mine who goes to cosmetology school said that everyone gets taught how to do everything no matter what race you are its just white people have a hard time getting someone black to let them do thier hair.

post 10 : I was getting dropped off to get my relaxer the other day and i asked my salonist how long was she going to be so i could tell my ride what time to piuck me up and she coped and attitude saying "how ever long it takes" i mean she acted as if i was doing her a favor i mean IM the customer im paying her so why the attitude? is this normal? I mean so many blk salonist seem to think they are doing you a favor by doing your hair when in actuality you the customer are doing them a service by being there paying the 50 dollars to get your hair relaxed

post 11 : I got my hair relaxed she only left it on for 30 (i have very corse tightly curled hair) exactly she gave me a trim for good measure ...so them i washed my hair 5 days later let it air dry then flat iron it on a setting of 3 and it got straight at the roots but the ends are frizzy why and what can i do about it is this just herdity?

post 12 :So they now sell em at walmart should i buy the deep conditioner? (this post was about nexxus being sold at walmart)

post 13 :Is it? I mean it makes your hair shine...i know some have said it sits on the hair and blocks moisture out when you say sit how long can a rpoduct sit on your hair without dissapating into the air? I mean it cant sit there forever or we could just put moisturizer on our hair once and not have to do it again until you wash it out. any commenmts ? (about shine serums)

post 14 :Why is it that when I try to straighten my hair with a flat iron the new grow fights so hard i mean i thought heat was what whipped it into submission? Its not fair i mean what do i have to do here beat my hair up? Any tips on getting new groth straightened out

Post 15 :  Could the cause of my frizzy hair just be herdity because i notice my mom after she drys her hair frizzy but she can defrizz it easier than i can usually if i want frizz free hair i have to get a relaxer

post 16 : Why does my hair frizz up so bad i mean when i air dry it frizzes when i blow it out it frizzes is there no solution to my friz problem?

post 17 : Is it better for your hair because you arent going from extremely curly to straight you r just going fromextremely curly to looser curls?

post 18 : I have realxed hair but i want to put blue streaks in it.....now how can i go about this w/o damaging my hair

post 19 : I dont have a hooded dryer at my dorm so when i deep condition i use my hand dryer on low is this ok? I mean im not drying it im just putting heat on it enough to deep condition my ends

Post 20 :My scalp has been itchy for the past few days and i washed it last friday (i wait every five days until i wash it) when i scratch no dirt comes up like it does when its dirty it just itches. COuld it be because i slept with a cap on during the weekend and i sweated and by sweating i dried out my scalp? Could i be i need some extra scalp moisture because its winter? I mean it hasnt been itchy and dry long it just started last week. What should I do and whats the cause of this?

post 21 : When ever i air dry my hair or blow dry it out it ends up frizzy i hate to have to use a flat iron all the time but its either that or have a hair full of frizz any tips or help? I know my hair isnt damaged coz i asked my stylist to trim my hair like a week ago ....so could it be that my hair is just naturally frizzy? if so how do i tame the friz plz plz plz help me

post 22 :  have naturally thick hair and when i get a relaxer it seems to become less thick and i like it this way because its easier to manage such as pulling it back into a pony tail and such ...when i first wash my hair after the relaxer its still straight but it thickens back up is there a reason why and how do i get it back to be thinner like it was when i first got it relaxed?

post 23 :dont use tresseme's hot oil treatment theres alcohol denat in it....and from what i read on this board is bad bad bad for your hair (why would it be in a hot oil treatment i dont know).I bought some last night and read the package this morning (shopping while drunk bad bad bad idea :) )So im taking the sucker back and buying suave hot oil treatment better ingrdients and cheaper.Just a heads

post 24 : Do I have to tie my hair up at night? I hate those bonnet things and those head wrap things too they make my head sweat. I currently use a satin pillow case but my stylist says this wont keep my hair in place.....i mean i dont care about having to comb it in the morning because i have to manipulate it anyway when i put my curlers in it.So do I have to tie my hair up in order to prevent breakage or can i just sleep on a pillow case ?

post 25 : I think i may try to use vive when i run out of my current shampoo....i just need a cheaper alternative........now heres the problem the shampoo vive makes for relaxed hair has glycerin in it and the regular vive doesnt other than this one ingredient there really is no difference except the one for relaxed hair cost a dollar more which one should i choose i the vive for relaxed hair with glycerin or the regular vive with out it plz help i need some help :)

post 26 : can you huh huh im looking at my suave body lotion it has vitamin e and glycerin is the second ingredient im not saying everyday use just until i can get my hands oin somemore mango butter (a week or so)

post 27 : i heard bad things about tresseme but what about vive ,and garnier fuitice?

and finally post 28 : I read i review book called dont shop for hair products without me and it said that the shampoo brand tresseme was great and it uses sodium laureth sulphate soit gentle and makes your hair really strong soo i was wondering had anyone else on this forum ever use it  btw i may have spelled it wrong so.....anyway opinons welcomed

So thats alonst 30 post out of how many that talked about problems with MY hair i wouldnt say that all i do is sit around and compare blk/wht hair i think saying 70 % is a an exageration id be expecting you guys to be more tired of my post about my frizzy hair rather than my random questions about differences. I only ask because i figure someone on the board would know the answer. I didnt expect to be ganged up on so....Obviously the subject of asking abotu hair textures is a sore spot on this forum because apparently me asking questions about differences in hair textures on this forum means that you have a problem with your heritage or there is something deeper going on when its just out of curiosity ....well sorry but if you dont liike my post oh well just dont like them im not losing sleep because a couple of people that dont know or ever have to be near me have a problem with my post so go on be as offended as you want.......and if you ask me being offended by a persons questions about hair is sad not some asking valid questions out of curiosity...... I dont see anything wrong with asking "why cant blk women sleep on cotton pilklow and ppl of other races can" have none of you ever wondered that?and im not sitting around comparing hair i have just noticed that there are differences and i wanted to know why the differences are the way they are and i dont see a problem with that and obviosly some people here do so oh well ....This really is my last post on this particular thread so have fun squawking about me and my "annoying post comparing white and black hair" amongst your selves. Im done this is seriously childish it was just a couple of questions geez

by the way i have apologized to cremesweet about flying off the handle and i will apologize to picked guese as well but as for the rest of you who were rude (not phenoix she was nice about it) keep squawking