I did my first install Sat with pro tac. Tonight, Tues, I washed my whole head with matrix amplifying shampoo and conditioner.....

I had my top row at the crown come half way out, had to reinstall that one completely, and the bottom two in a few spots had slipage. Should I be using a different shampoo or what are some ways to help prevent slipage after washing? Or maybe I did something during installation that could've caused it?

Any ideas or tips would be GREATLY appreciated! Otherwise the hair, ect looks GREAT!

Thanks,Sheri

The hair needs to be super clean and dry for an install with pro-tac.

Wash with a non moisture shampoo, or a clarifying shampoo and dry well immediately before install. No conditioners.

Did the tapes seem secure before washing?

i had done a test run with protac when i first started using it,

these are the mistakes i made and learned from:

using a moisturizing shampoo up near the tape (now i use Pantene clarifying shampoo up on my scalp and the tape area and a sulfate free moisturizing shampoo on the length of my extensions no where near the tapes)

forgetting to keep leave in conditioner/spray in conditioner away from the tapes too...(now i gather the extension length in a pony tail and am careful to spray leave in conditioner ONLY on that, if i need conditioning on my crown i have learned to put my head forward, work the conditoner in with that section pulled in my face and rinse under the running water...then i dry it really well before letting it flop back where it may be touching the Protac....yes, i am OCD!)

when i brush my hair, its always with holding my hair in my fist so that there is NO pulling against the tapes

i use a loop brush up on my crown because it doesnt have the ability to snag against the Protac, even though the tape is in there snug my real hair is thin and fine and if i pull it and snap any of it off.....i will just DIE

once i am done shampooing i pat along the tapes with the towel and whip out my ion hairdryer and shoot it on the tapes to dry them well

good luck, and practice makes perfect!

Amen, what they said....I've learned the hard way as well. My first 2 or 3 installs didn't hold up well because I had too much product on my hair. I now make sure it is really clean with NO conditioner put on before install... then I add my IC straightening serum from Sallys.... Which by the way if you have dry frizzy hair... works wonders. I put that on and then use my curling flat iron to smooth the hair.... or curl with curling iron... either way I then can go a day or two without adding anymore IC  straightening serum... it seems to re-activate when using the curling iron and smooths it back down.  Hairspray is another key element for me... I finally started using a hairspray that doesn't cause build-up and can be brushed out everyday. This way I can go a week without washing my hair.

I also use the proclaim from sallys to reinforce my protac and that keeps it from slipping. Haven't done a take down yet so I have no idea how hard this proclaim glue is to get out. Any suggestions....acetone or amms orange oil remover???????

I'm a little confused.  You use the proclaim how?  And you put the IC on before you install your wefts??  Maybe I have'nt had enough coffee yet today, but I am totally confused.

Thanks.

Lol...I use the proclaim when I start to have any slippage areas.....and the IC serum I use after install. My hair is really dry and frizzy and the serum works for me to make my hair soft to the touch.

 I don't put anything on my hair until complete install is in and done.

Sorry if I didn't explain that very well.... but in my head it sounded great.... BUT.... I may of had more coffee than you guys.

Hopefully that is as clear as mud. LOL

AH HA!   I know now what I did wrong!!!!    I colored and washed my hair, no conditioner. It may have still been a little too damp for the install..... plus I'd just colored my wefts and thought they were dry enough for the install... maybe not 

Thank you SO much for the advice. This weekend I plan on taking them out and reinstalling! 

Sheri

Thanks Nakedeye, that's a great idea to sort of seal the sandwich-protac together with heat.  I've also gone over it rather quickly acouple of times with a small flat iron (before removing the paper strips from the adhesive part, and also used my wand once too, which worked fine. I've only used the protac 4 times now, on clients and once on myself and think it's really the most state of the art technique.....on the market today.  It's so new that no one in my area knows about it (Central Coast CA) Ya can't beat the time element and the simplicity of the technique.

thanks again, autumn

hey there naked eye, you're by no means a stick in the mud! Since I'm a new-found believer in the tape methods....here's something I did that seem to take care of that 'conturing' challenge of the top roll...and actually now that I think about it the whole head. I cut stips of about 2 1/2" to 3" wide of the tape and did the brick layer method on my own head to see how it felt. It was much better than a one long piece in the back (from ear to ear say) and absoluted no bunching or tauntness on the head or hair. Kind of reminds me of when sewing something on a curve or rounded edge and cutting the material so that the edge lays flat. With smaller strip sizes up higher in the back, the head is rounder....good grief, enough! ha

Oh honey, how flattering...I don't think anyones every called me brillliant before! Really makes my Day!  We're just all Hair Wizards, aren't we! Actually, my specialty in ext. is custom coloring....since i think color and hair just go together like peas and carrots. Before I start tho, wow what a FANTASTIC Graphic you did! How'd you do it? Photoshop? It's really cool!

I use cuticleless hair for the most part because there is zero tangling ever and the hair stays shiny and pristene, (since it's coated with a resin.) The only drawback to this type of hair is that it can't be colored in the traditional sense....with hair color or bleached. I have discovered tho, that it can be stained into beautiful shades of all sorts with 'hair color filler'. As there is no cuticle for the color to attach to, this 'filler', works great.    Now for the highlights and 'streaks/chunks with wefts....using the tape, I alternate two or three (or more) splices of various hair shades onto the tape....that's one way and the easiest, I think. Another way is to custom blend the hair in small bulk bundles and carefully smash the hair onto the sticky side of the tape.....carefully dab some Liguid Gold onto the hair, sparingly, then fold the tape down (sandwich style) hit it with the straight iron or wand with heat and wha-lah, ....there it is.  Do remember to brush the non-wefted hair rather briskly once it's taped, because there will be some shedding. If you get most of that out before attaching it to the client (or yourself) then you won't have as much shedding or any at all.  Let me (All of us, on the Board) know how it goes!!

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hugs, autumn

youuuuu are so Right Syren123....The tape is toupe' ....although I'm wondering about the actual 'protac' ....it posibly could be an industrial tape used for various asundy things....two sided tape has been around for a lonnnng time. The first extensions I actually had were 'the sewn in wefts' and the yr. was about 1983, and yip, kept'em for 3 months and they grew into a rats nest at the nape of my neck. The amt. of care given didn't matter. The hair just grows and the weft get loose..etc. etc. It did itch and wasn't at all comfortable. Took 'em out on a trip to Hawaii and my hair had grown about 3 inches, but I lost half of it from the technique....I believe.

One reason I think the tape method is so good is that it requires the wearer to renew the extensions at a shorter rate than links or fusion (strand by strand) because my clients try to get as much wear as possible, getting 'touch ups' etc. going far beyond what is really safe to do with extensions. This is why, from my point of view, the selling aspect of Great Lengths as long wearing (6 months) is not very accurate. We all know that length of time isn't real good on the natural hair. I see a lot of damage, (ie pull spots, balding, thiness) from the repetitive Hair Extension wearers that don't give their scalp and hair a rest. I've become very strick with my extension clients making sure they realize that the year after yr. of having extensions with little to no break, is similar to having acrylic nails over and over without giving the nails a breather, so-to-speak.

I'm glad for your imput Syren!! xoxo

Hi, where do you get the proclaim from as i would like to try it for removing my pro-flex/pro-tac tape - acetone was not too good for me.

Thanks xx

Yup...that's the GREATEST Stuff since sliced bread for me!!  Didn't like there other products to combat frizzies but the straightner is the bomb. I put it on before I blow dry and then a little on as I flat iron or curl.... and dab a little on during the week....cause I only wash my hair 1x a week...sooooo....it works fantastic if you have dry frizzy hair... just use a flat iron and it makes my hair smooooooth.