Best thing since Amm's razor
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Topic: Best thing since Amm's razor
Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Subject: Best thing since Amm's razor
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 6:11pm
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Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 7:53pm
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Mark Barrington shrink links shrink down in 6 seconds with just a regular fusion iron. But I guess this iron is a good idea of you are using the 'generic' shrinkies. ------------- http://www.Godiva-Hair.com - http://www.Godiva-Hair.com http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com - http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com |
Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 6:32am
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Actually, they shrink down in three seconds, I'm not sure which shrinkies Amanda used with this iron, but with the "generic" shrinkies that I use, it only takes three seconds to form a nice tight bond.
Meowwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!! ------------- |
Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 8:14am
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Woof Woof lol I'm using the doc's ones, they have a bigger opening so it takes longer x ------------- [URL=http://www.hairextensionsbyamanda.co.uk]www.hairextensionsbyamanda.co.uk[/URL] |
Posted By: Chris H.
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 9:34am
| How much is it? |
Posted By: nicey
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 9:46am
ooooooh forum cats n dogs...pmsl ------------- louxx |
Posted By: Chris H.
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 9:49am
| I still use the one from her haircandy site... works fine, but still interested.. |
Posted By: hairraisin
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 10:19am
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Metalgirl your just downright obvious! |
Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 10:55am
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Have a look on the website link at the top Chris x ------------- [URL=http://www.hairextensionsbyamanda.co.uk]www.hairextensionsbyamanda.co.uk[/URL] |
Posted By: amm
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 11:49am
Every shrinkie I've tried from over a half dozen vendors shrink down in 6 seconds or less. Some irons do a better job than others and even MB's links perform like the (cough) "generic" ones with an iron notorious for uneven heat and temp (Chaoba, to name one). I've read VERY good reviews on beaucouphair's iron on heat consistency and comfort, so what's with this comment anyway? This was a product rave post and your participation comes across catty and "nyah nyah." While I'm here, can I suggest something? The next time someone asks where they can purchase hair or a product, can you not say "this is what I use but it's only sold to licensed people with accounts." Really, metal, how does that help the DIY who needs or wants the product? ------------- http://shrinkies.net - Extension Supplies & Virgin Brazilian Hair |
metalgirl wrote:Posted By: malibu
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 12:05pm
Ya know what Amm, BRAVO!! I couldn't have said it better myself. ------------- |
Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 1:49pm
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Thanks, Amm! It can be discouraging for us DIYers, especially when we're newbies, to hear a great recommendation and go to the site ready to buy, only to hear that we're not qualified to own the product. I understand licensed cosmetologists and the companies that sell to them having a proprietary relationship, but the attitude that goes along with it drives me nuts !!! ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: Chris H.
Date Posted: June 08 2006 at 8:22pm
| Gotcha, Amanda |
Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 1:57pm
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You know what, I've very proud of all the hard work and time I've put into learning to be a professional in my craft. It's not to say that there aren't any DIYers that that can be a good job too. If you want the full priveledges of being able to buy 'professional' products than get a license and stop whining about not having full access to stuff. Yeah, it may be unfair, but that's just how some companies want to maintain control of their products. I didn't make the rules.
So do I have an attitude? I guess if you want to call self-confidence and personal pride an attitude, than I guess I'm guilty. I am proud of all my work and accomplishments, and I don't really care about what other people think of me, including some members of this board.
Hey, over these two or so years I've shared good advice, so if my pride in being a professional upsets you, I guess that's just too bad for you.
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Posted By: hairraisin
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 3:35pm
If you think that the above comment you made sounds confident because you are a professional, you better read again. You really sound very immature and troubled and jealous. You must really have a grudge against Elvaira, and obviously you don't like Amm either by your comments. You are very passive aggressive with your little digs about using generic shrinkies. What does you giving good advice before have to do with anything anyway? you sound like your just 'mad'. at what who no's but get over yourself. Your a hairdresser for goodness sakes. I think everyone knows by know who the 'real ones' are. Of course people value your work. You do a great job. I'd even let you do my hair if you lost the attitude.
I don't think anyone was whining about buying not being able to buy from professionals. Mabbey they just had enough of listening to you.
If you don't think that there is anything wrong with your comments, I feel really bad for you. Although everyone is entitled to therown opionin, and this is a forum, you just sound blantantly mean. You keep talking about mark barrington. It must really make you mad others are selling 'his' products. I wonder if the guy who invented shrink tubing is mad at Mark barrington for stealing his tubing and profiting from it another way? Google that why don't cha
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Posted By: nicey
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 4:41pm
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also http://www.connect-2-hair.com - www.connect-2-hair.com sell mb shr***es not that anyone likes the site owner...lol but i thought id add that as you dont need to be a pro to buy from them! xx ------------- louxx |
Posted By: hairraisin
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 5:00pm
I edited my above font because it was too small, now it's to big but I did forget to say lighten up!
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Posted By: malibu
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 5:40pm
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Metalgirl, you're so confident with those Mark Barrington's. You go girl with your bad self. I wish I could buy those faby a$$ Barrington tubes. Don't mind this entire forum, we just envy your expertise and privilage to buy Mark Barrington tubes. p.s. if you really want to write something with conviction you should check your english before hitting the reply button. ------------- |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 5:51pm
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 6:00pm
Honestly that comment is quite silly in reality.....think about it
would you LYAO if someone told you you should go get a medical degree to treat a simple health ailment at home? When there are tons of various prescrip. strength products available over the counter. Really.... doing ones own hair is not rocket science or medicine! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 6:04pm
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Metalgirl, I wasn't specifically referencing any attitude that you may or may not have. I have appreciated your willingness to share your expertise online with us at HB.com.
My comment about attitude was about any cosmetology professional who becomes angry and defensive when a non-professional seeks to find ways to have access to the same quality products that professionals use. Again, I appreciate the proprietary relationship between cosmetologists and professional products vendors. However the degree to which some cosmetologists become hysterically angry defending their territory is obnoxious and downright silly to me. It is as if no one but a licensed cosmetologist could possibly use the products safely, and that the odd DIYer here or there who chooses to find ways to access professional products will somehow take business from the professionals to the point that business will suffer. I figured out a way to purchase Schwarzkopf professional hair color online--I use it properly, attain great results, and wouldn't go back to having a professional do my color even if I had to resort to purchasing an inferior product. The hysteria that I've experienced when discussing what I've done with some cosmetologists rivals how someone might react to being told one is a fan of molesting little children. I'm a licensed Marriage & Family therapist, and have owned my own successful private practice for over 20 years now. It required a LOT more education and training than most if not all cosmetologists undergo in their entire careers. Yet, I've never begrudged the person who sought out a friend, a pastor, or another lay counselor to help them with their problems. Sure, that non-professional might do more harm than good for the person. Sure, it might be a patient that I could've had for myself. But I know that sometimes lay counselors do as well if not better when helping a person in need. I'm also confident that I'm good enough at what I do that I'll never lack for the business I need to remain successful. ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: leelou
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 10:44am
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blimey blimey blimey!! handbags at dawn ladies, ten paces and wait till i say go lol!!! so back to the original topic amanda brought up, i have seen amandas said tool (ooh err!!LOL) and it looks fab and seems a little easier to handle than the usual generic shrin**ie tool as i found the heated clamp ends a little too thick and could easily burn the scalp if one was not too careful. the smaller heat clamp on the new tool is a lot better design!! i will be ordering one soon!! ------------- xxx Leanne |
Posted By: Kalika
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 8:53pm
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Apparently you don't need a beautician's license to purchase the Mark B. shrink links, he PM'd me himself a while ago and offered to sell them to me.
... After a $1500 class of course.
I told him where to stick his shrinkies
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Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 10:00pm
His butthole obviously needs a shrinkie... it's apparently the size of Cincinnati!
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 11:20pm
 LMAO kristie m------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: June 12 2006 at 4:47am
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LMAO xx ------------- [URL=http://www.hairextensionsbyamanda.co.uk]www.hairextensionsbyamanda.co.uk[/URL] |
Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 12:41pm
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http://www.putfile.com/beaucouphair/media - http://www.putfile.com/beaucouphair/media
I made a little clip in light of all this, hope nobody gets offended!
If it doesn't load, then I'm still trying to compress the files. ------------- |
Posted By: naildiva
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 2:30pm
OK, I probably shouldnt get involved - but I am a licensed Nail tech and I get the same problems with unlicensed individuals wanting to use prof products.
I also believe that I went to school for a reason and being able to get pro products is a perk. there are many non-pro products out there that non-pros can use that perform just as well. I dont believe it is the same as likening it to getting a medical degree for a home remedy. Its more of earning a drivers license. Sure, a non-driver can start up a car and go, but there is a reason that they require a license. Its the same in the beauty industry. There are a lot of issues that non-pros arent aware of. Thats why this forum is so great! We can all learn from each other! And I do answer nail questions on the nail board, but I never recommend that someone do their own acrylics. And most hairstylists dont recommend anyone doing their own color or highlights or extensions. But if you want to try - go ahead! Just dont expect to use professional products!
OK, Back to my hole
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Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 4:16pm
I do my color at home and I DO expect to be able to get the professional products I prefer. One just has to know where to look...
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 4:54pm
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NailDiva...my point to that comment...about it being kinda silly was...
its silly to tell a DIYer to go get a license, to do their own hair! Really...
And quite frankly I know all the issues, and would put my skill and knowledge of hair extensions against many so called pro's. Just because one has a cosmotology license doesnt necessarily make them qualified in my opinion to do extensions even though the law says so!
Having said that I do respect all the pros who train and learn the techniques and have perfected their craft. A cos license doesnt make one an extensionist in my book...its the actual extensions training and experience that makes one a professional extensionist.
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Posted By: TanglesRC
Date Posted: June 13 2006 at 7:09pm
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i agree with what everything naildiva has said, and i also agree with some of what sherrie has said- "its the actual extension training and experience that makes one a professional extensionist".
with that said, ANYONE who thinks they can Charge someone to do extensions, espicially in a salon without some form of extension hands on training is not only fooling themselves,but is certainly not putting the clients well being ahead of the game.
Learning to do hair goes hand in hand with doing extensions, there is alot we learn in beauty school that aids and works together with doing extensions. i also dont think any liscensed stylist has any business doing extensions without some formal training either.
buying professional products- Kristie- your very right, if you know where to look you can find just about everything.
Just like the MB shrinks- by the way he will sell to anyone who isnt liscened too- he has two kinds, one for pros and one for DIYers, i bet if you really really wanted the pro shrinks from him, you could call him and ask, i beleive Aphrodite gets them from him too ------------- Bringing beauty, one head at a time... |
Posted By: Shirilyn
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 10:20am
All I know is. ....... can we all just get along. Everybody learned something new today, let's move on because it is like pulling hair in here. I love this board and I do give advice, and by no means do I recommend that anyone does a professional service on themsevles, but hey... to each his own. I respect Metalgirls opinion and thoughts, this is how we eat and provide for our family and selves. It really makes our job harder, but when you really look at it, there isn't anything anyone can do about it. An ex: bootleg movies, how many of you have some of those DVD's at home? I for one do. It was so funny because my husband, kids and myself went to this TimmyChan's place in Houston to buy fried chicken and fried rice, and on the outside they were selling movies, pictures, a women on the inside was asking for money to feed her child, a blind man saying he wasn't sitting there for nothing, he was blind he needed money. I was like dear god....... what is this world coming to..... bottom line is everybody somewhere some way is getting their "hustle" on, I ain't mad at no body. Like we say, dothedo. "Can't we all just get along?" ------------- http://www.myspace.com/texashairextensionqueen |
Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 1:30pm
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Shirilyn, I think we are "getting along" here. We're discussing an issue that is relevant for professionals and non-professionals alike. Sometimes when people disagree the tone can get unpleasant, but I'll try to keep my post to the point.
I touch my roots up every two weeks. There is no way I'd be running to the salon that often for what I can do just as well at home without the hassle of having to go to another hair appointment. My reason for doing my color at home, as well as my extensions, manicures, pedicures and body hair epilation, has little to do with saving money and everything to do with time, convenience, and the fact that I don't find going to the "beauty parlor" a treat. For hair coloring I prefer to use professional products but would use non-professional products if that were all that was available to me. My stylist sees me for haircuts but isn't losing out on any business because I do my own color. You stated in your post that nonprofessionals using professional products is akin to having bootlegged movies. I don't own a single bootlegged DVD, CD, video, or software product because I perceive doing so as participating in theft. We all have to support our families, and I agree that theft might interfere with this. But how is it theft when one is doing a cosmetology process on oneself that one would not go to a professional for, and when one is using a product for which one has paid full price from an authorized vendor? ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 2:18pm
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I've heard all the arguments about how it's for their own good, and they need to know the science of hair/nails and all, but let's be serious.. It's THEIR HAIR, and they are GROWN A$$ED women.. If they want to color their own hair, they should be able to.. That takes not ONE DIME out of the pocket of the professional stylist.. Because I would bet that even if there was NO ACCESS to professional products, you'd be hard pressed to see Kristie or Sherrie (and others like them) in your chair anyway.. It's a better argument to say that unlicensed non-professionals who charge for professional services should not have access to professional products.. Home DIYers?? Not even in the SAME category, and it sounds to me like some of you professionals have lumped DIYers in the same category.. ------------- Check out the 5th So Cal offline luncheon?? For more info: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com/lunch.html Links to my fav vendors & hair albums + Weave 101 information: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com |
Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 2:35pm
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Thank you, Diva!
I'm in complete agreement with you about non-professionals who do other peoples' hair and charge for it not being allowed professional products, at the discretion of the product manufacturer. If you care enough to make and sell a quality product, your company's reputation is on the line. Having some assurance that the people promoting your product are trained and licensed in how to use such products is perfectly valid. We DIYers take responsibility for the use/misuse of the products we put on our own selves. If I f*ck up and end up with green hair, I sure won't be blamin' Mr. Schwarzkopf! It is my lame-assed self who didn't know which product to use or how to use it properly! ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: Kalika
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 4:16pm
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If I f*ck up and end up with green hair...
Been there, done that
. Hell, if anything a lot of DIY'ers are giving salon owners MORE business, because eventually there will be a royal f**k-up sometime that we'll need y'all to fix. But as an expireanced DIY'er, I will do what I can to have access to the best products I can get.
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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 4:33pm
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Want to see a nuclear meltdown? Try refusing to sell even DIY products to the uneducated extensionist who charges for services. When they ask if the hairdryer will install and remove a shrinkie, when they ask how to take out fusion chips AFTER they've already been installed on clients, when they complain bonding strips caused an allergic reaction on a client when they failed to do a skin test, when they ask how to position a microring for removal because they doubled them over on a client's head, that's just unreal to me.
When I ask... "What method worked best when you installed it on yourself?" NO RESPONSE "The hair turned bad after 2 weeks on your client? How long did it last for you?" NO RESPONSE "How did you care for this when you put it in on yourself?" NO RESPONSE "How did you remove that attachment when you put it in on yourself? NO RESPONSE "Why did you install on paying customers when you did not personally test it yourself?" BEGIN RECEIVING STREAM-OF-CONSCIOUSNESS EMAILS SPRINKLED WITH PROFANITY AND/OR KARMIC/UNIVERSE REVENGE Once the next purchase comes in and the refusal to provide products is in place, oooooo it gets colorful after that. There's a good portion of newly sprouted DIY who have not found these boards and have NO clue how to work these products either but I have seen plenty of fine examples of those without a license doing excellent installs on themselves and others. Interesting point -- all the ones I've seen who have excellent installs on themselves do excellent installs on others as well. I attribute this directly to not using clients as guinea pigs. If one has a new product on Monday that they've never worked with and it's in a paying customer's hair on Tuesday, it's unexcusable. I've read many times of the licensed cleaning up the work of other licensed. Myself, the worst hair disasters of my time were under the hands of the licensed and certified. Now, the licensed cleaning up extension work of the proficient DIY? This I've not heard of. For me, licensed and unlicensed are only as good as their individual skills. There's good and bad in both groups. ------------- http://shrinkies.net - Extension Supplies & Virgin Brazilian Hair |
Posted By: nursie
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 5:30pm
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whoooo ya'll got my head reeling! im one of those DIY'ers who just loves to f-up my own hair, sometimes i get it right and sometimes i dont but at least i dont have to ask everyone who to go to re-fix my hair.....i quit going to 'professionals' years ago (1999 in fact) because even if i did find a great professional they moved away after one of two times doing my hair, and then my hair would be in the hands of a stranger all over again i am frugal, but money is no object, i get gel nails refilled every 2weeks faithfully..... i would pay a hair professional if he/she could guarantee me 110% that my hair would not be more f-d up when i walk out than when i walked in....but i got burned too many times, so me doing my own hair is not begrudging the 'industry' because no professional will see me in their chair again until im too old and feeble to reach the back of my head to do it all myself im definately with those of you who dont want uneducated people raking in money for fitting in extensions, and i can see where formal training would help with knowing if the hair condition is ok in the first place....i wish my momma had realized when i was a kid that she was not professionaly licensed to cut my hair because until i was 13 i had some really f-d up haircuts!
also, finally......i actually like a lot ( a whole lot) of nonprofessional products, those marketed for us simple folk
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, so i KNOW there are great professionals out there and you do a great service for everyone but mePosted By: TanglesRC
Date Posted: June 14 2006 at 11:12pm
that has been my beef from the beginning of time.....
unskilled unprofessionals workihg on clients and charging them, pity the poor client who has NO idea!!!
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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 3:48am
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Here here Amm and Tangles! x ------------- [URL=http://www.hairextensionsbyamanda.co.uk]www.hairextensionsbyamanda.co.uk[/URL] |
Posted By: Kalika
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 6:21am
Hmmm, Amm - You need a page on your website with the emails, under the "what NOT to do" section 
Plus I'm just nosey, and love reading the retarded thoughts that go on in peoples heads
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Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 9:40am
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Kalika, need your help again! I made another clip but I forgot how to edit it to change from windows media movie to a wmv file. Do you know how? Talk about retarted! ------------- |
Posted By: Kalika
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 9:43am
| windows media IS a wmv file. |
Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: June 15 2006 at 10:44am
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Windows Movie Maker I meant. ------------- |
Posted By: Kalika
Date Posted: June 16 2006 at 9:08am
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it saves it as a wma file? if not, whats the file extension? |
Posted By: hairheaven
Date Posted: June 21 2006 at 2:43am
Ditto
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