HELP! please!....
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Topic: HELP! please!....
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Subject: HELP! please!....
Date Posted: December 16 2000 at 8:14pm
Hi! I NEED YOUR HELP PLEASE!
Ok..my hair is OK i guess...after i shampoo and condition it..i usually let it air dry...then i go to bed, and wake up the next morning to find out that my hair looks like a afro! I HATE IT! It does the say thing if i put it up in a pony tail, then take out..it looks awful! I`ve tried a lot of different shampoos and conditioners, but it seems like none of them work very good...I just want my hair to stop lookin like its all dry and cracked and just to have it shinny and beautiful :( If you can give me any suggestions, it would really help me out! Thanks a lot!
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Posted By: Karen Shelton
Date Posted: December 18 2000 at 7:17am
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Reply to message: viewthread.asp?forum=AMB%5FAP804060353&id=839&page=1#21.839.1 - 21.839.1 Hi,
Please remember that this my opinion only and based on my own experiences so I hope it helps but I want to remind everyone that they need to find their own way.
I am not sure what texture your hair is so I can`t really comment about the way it acts after you sleep on it.
It sounds to me like you have not hit upon the right combo of shampoo and conditioners. A lot of people swear that drugstore shampoos and conditioners are the same as salon lines. I hav to tell you that I used the drugstore shampoos for years and my hair looked and acted horrible. I didn`t really see a turn around in my hair until I switched to Aveda. Along the way I tried a lot of salon brands and I have 4-5 that really always work for me. Aveda Shampure is great for moisturizing my hair no matter how dry or screwy it is acting. Aveda`s Curessence conditioner also works so great. They are both very very expensive but they work for me so I keep them on hand and alternate them in from time to time.
I also have great luck with Edwin Paul Luxury Shampoo and Deep Conditioner. ARTec Smoothing and conditioner and Moisture Pak work for me. When I need less conditioning I have great luck with Paul Penders. I also like Phytologie products (S88 and #7 and #9).
It has taken me 10 years to figure out what really makes my hair smooth and soft and shiny. Someone recently told me that my hair glows like it has lights hidden somewhere. :-) That was a great compliment but believe me I work super hard at my hair all the time.
What would I advise you to do? First of all, what is your hair type? Is it naturally curly, wavy or straight? Or a comb? What products are you currently using? What products have worked the best in the past? If nothing has really worked, what are you willing to spend on products? Paul Penders and Edwin Paul are more cost affordable but Aveda, even though they make me mad at some of the things they do, kicks butt.
This is how I do my hair:
1. Depending on how dry it is (I have my hair higlighted 4x a year) I apply a warm jojoba oil product into my hair from the middle of my hair down to the ends. I leave on for about 30 minutes and then I shampoo.
2. I use warm water (even though I love hot showers) and alternate between Aveda, Edwin Paul, Paul Penders, Phytologie and ARTec.
3. I do just one shampoo. Rinse and apply a rinse out conditioner. I have found that while mixing and matching is OK I get better results with sticking to a specific brand. So Aveda with Aveda and ARTec with ARTec.
4. I towel blot my hair with a big fluffy towel that soaks up a lot of moisture.
5. I use a detangling spray...Aveda Curessence Spray or Edwin Paul detangler or ARTec Kiwi and a big pick and detangle my hair.
6. I blow dry my bangs straight or else they get super wavy.
7. I twist my damp hair into a big fat knot and stick in hairsticks or a big claw clip. I let my hair air dry. I go to work with my hair damp (which works here in a warmer climate) and then about 2 hours later I unclip my hair, pick it out and it is usually dry. It looks great.
8. I never sleep on my hair when it is even damp or the waves go crazy.
So I think maybe you need to consider washing your hair in the morning or long before you go to bed. Another thought is to use rag curlers and put them into your hair to keep your look smooth. Rag curlers are soft and easy to sleep on.
Another option is to use a satin pillowcase that will keep your hair smoother.
Finally, you can blow dry your hair just enough to remove moisture but not damage the hair. If you decide to do that use the blow dryer on coolest, slowest setting and apply a leave in conditioner.
Please let me know if you have more questions.
Hair can be managed...it just takes a little time and practice to learn what works best for you.
Best wishes,
Karen Shelton
HairBoutique.com
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Posted By: Jennifer
Date Posted: December 20 2000 at 7:42pm
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Reply to message: viewthread.asp?forum=AMB%5FAP804060353&id=839&page=1#21.850.1 - 21.850.1 >>I hav to tell you that I used the drugstore shampoos for years and my hair looked and acted horrible. I didn`t really see a turn around in my hair until I switched to Aveda.
Hi Karen,
Did you try each and every single formulation on the drugstore market? I`m very perplexed with people lump *all* products that are sold at a drugstore together! If you bought some food at a grocery store that was awful, would you then say that all food purchased at a grocery store was awful?
I`ll absolutely admit that I`ve tried some drugstore products that were awful! But I`ve also used salon products that were awful, as well.
What probably makes salon products work better for us is that someone helped us choose the right combination and ingredients for our hair. When we buy from the drugstore, unless we know exactly what we`re doing, it`s much easier to make mistakes.
I would just honestly like some proof that the ingredients that are used in salon products are somehow inherently superior to those used in drugstore products. For instance, a common ingredient in some shampoos is sodium laureth sulfate. Is there an "inferior" batch of it that is put in drugstore products and a "superior" batch of it that is put in salon products?
I`m not knocking salon products at all. In fact, I love both Aveda and Artec! (Probably others, too, but I`m familiar with those two).
Do you think it`s possible for a person to use a salon product that really isn`t right for her hair and still obtain excellent results?
In essence, aren`t the ingredients more important than where the product was purchased? I would really love to see research to prove that different "grades" of ingredients are used for drugstore vs. salon products! I personally wouldn`t use Suave or Pantene shampoo -- not because of cost or where they`re available, but because of the ingredients in them. But I have used Pantene conditioner with excellent results.
I would be most anxious to hear what makes salon products superior, in your opinion.
Thanks,
Jennifer
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