Help for frizzies / experience with silicone-based serums
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Topic: Help for frizzies / experience with silicone-based serums
Posted By: Mr. Rapunzel
Subject: Help for frizzies / experience with silicone-based serums
Date Posted: January 08 2001 at 11:53am
I`m looking for product advice. My wife has great hair (blonde, a few inches past shoulders, thick, slightly wavy), except for frizziness. No matter what shampoos and conditioners she`s tried, and despite weekly deep conditioning, a lot of hairs do not lie flat. For want of a better word, I keep calling them "frizzy". They catch the light and detract from otherwise great-looking hair.
Any advice?
Any pro or con experiences with silicone-based leave-in serums? On some other posts, I`ve read negative comments about silicone-based products.
Also, if you recommend any sort of leave-in product, please let me know whether that adds a lot of time to your daily routine or is otherwise difficult to use.
Thanks for any and all replies!!
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Posted By: foxfan318
Date Posted: January 08 2001 at 1:20pm
silicone is a no no
the wrong shampoo and conditioner for her hair type can cause frizzies too.
a good smoothing lotion is Edwin Paul smoothing lotions. reviews and info can be found on this site, and you can order it from the marketplace.
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Hair type: fine but thick; natural blonde with 15% grey
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Posted By: Karen Shelton
Date Posted: January 08 2001 at 6:04pm
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Reply to message: viewthread.asp?forum=AMB%5FAP804060353&id=1046&page=1#21.1048.1 - 21.1048.1 Hi,
Yes, the Smoothing is amazing. When I use it my hair is like glass. Also, a good leave in will help and doesn`t add much time. I like Aveda`s Elixir (yes, its expensive but it works) and I also like the Aveda Curessence spray which acts like a cross between a leave in and a detangler. Edwin Paul`s leave in is good too but I prefer Aveda for my hair for the leave in.
Some silicones will work and some won`t. Again, depends on a wide range of factors.
Here are some other tips:
1. Use a cool/cold rinse as final rinse. That closes the hair cuticle and makes it less likely to frizz or "fly".
2. Apply a smoothing gel like EP or a leave in conditioner or both depending on hair texture. Doesn`t take long at all. Just put a dollap of each into hands, mix and apply. Use the leave in and then the smoothing gel over that. Or use one or other and not both. You have to experiment to get the best mix. I use leave in and then EP Smoothing (Love that stuff & it really works w/ no buildup).
3. Use a blow dryer, even if just to remove moisture and direct air from roots down to ends. This also closes the shaft more and makes the cuticle lay flatter. A blow dryer set on cool/cold and low speed with help even more.
4. Use a boars head paddle brush to help direct the air down and this will also help.
5. Use a tiny tiny bit of sealent or gloss at end. Spritz a tiny bit into the palms of your hands and mix up and then "glide" over the top of the hair, especially in the area where the hair "flys". That minimizes the "cone" impact.
6. Use a good clarifying shampoo every month just to make sure there is no build up on the hair. I do it as matter of course. Also, follow up any clarifying with a good conditioner to replenish natural oils.
Hope that helps.
Best wishes,
Karen
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That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger or drives you totally insane. :-)
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Posted By: Mr. Rapunzel
Date Posted: January 08 2001 at 9:32pm
Thank you for all the advice! I`ve gone ahead and ordered some Edwin Paul smoothing lotion, based on your glowing reviews -- actually the first purchase over the Internet I`ve ever made! Thanks for the other tips, too. We`ve read most of them before, such as finishing with a cool rinse and directing air down while blow drying, but my wife doesn`t like cool rinses and tends to blow her hair sideways -- I think the habit developed when she had "Farrah" hair in the 70`s and early 80`s! I`ve printed out your responses, so maybe seeing customized tips will convince her to try some of these things.
One more question -- I had purchased some John Frieda anti-frizz serum, the silicone-based product that prompted my original post, but we`ve not tried it yet. Any thoughts on that product?
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Posted By: foxfan318
Date Posted: January 08 2001 at 10:28pm
Karen, I agree -- while I am crazy about EP, I am not so much a fan of the leave in.
dunno why - it just doesn`t work for me
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Hair type: fine but thick; natural blonde with 15% grey
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Posted By: dianefromcanada
Date Posted: January 08 2001 at 11:58pm
Mr. Rapunzel the very best product that I had lots of success with was Aveda curessence.
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dianefromcanada
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Posted By: Susie
Date Posted: January 09 2001 at 4:55am
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Reply to message: viewthread.asp?forum=AMB%5FAP804060353&id=1046&page=1#21.1064.1 - 21.1064.1 Use the Frieda and test it against the EP Smoothing to see which works best. Then stick with the product your wife likes the most. Good luck.
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Kayak cutie
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