thinking of adding Socap
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Topic: thinking of adding Socap
Posted By: metalgirl
Subject: thinking of adding Socap
Date Posted: October 22 2006 at 2:06pm
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I would like to hear from experienced Socap stylists and also clients who have worn Socap extensions.
I have had a lot of requests lately for fusion extensions. I am not interested in Great Lengths. I think Socap sounds interesting.
I am finding more and more that probably due to the silicone coating on the hair, the shrink links are slipping for a lot more people.
I also do a lot of the silicone microrings, but the crimping action is really hurting my hand. My hand often aches from the neuropathy of my MS, so I want a alternative extension method that will be easier on my hands.
So...
How well does Socap stay in the hair or do they slip?
Does it shed?
How difficult are they to remove?
Do they have any keratin chips to rebond the hair so it can be reused more than once?
Has anyone tried the cold UltraSonic machine for application?
Is the hair decent quality?
Does the company have good customer service: gets orders out on time, in stock in most of the colors / textures, is available to answer question, etc...
Thanks. I did call the company and they are supposed to be sending me information in the mail. ------------- http://www.Godiva-Hair.com - http://www.Godiva-Hair.com http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com - http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com |
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Posted By: barbielocs
Date Posted: October 22 2006 at 7:29pm
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i am no longer doing gl- the company just sucks. they never have hair that i need and leave people on hold for an hour waiting to order- them are rudew to you and send you the wrong stuff! i just added socap and next month i am added hair dreams
i addes them last month so this is what i know so far
stays in like gl so far
no shedding ot taggling
just like gl on removing same with the removing gel
yes they have chips
no i dont have to machine yet(but will but it soon)
quality just like gl(i heard it was the same companys owners and they broke apart- so the stuff come from the same factory with the same concept)
great service even on sat. low over night shipping cost- always had what i needed so far
hope this helps ------------- |
Posted By: envoy13
Date Posted: October 22 2006 at 11:32pm
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Metagirl
I too use Socap, this has been my experience with it:
1)bonds seem to hold well. For instance, I just used socap on a client a month ago, and so far she has only lost one bond
2)the hair seems to not shed, in terms of tangling, I have all my clients get a detangler and that seems to work for them
3)I do have the ultrasound cold fusion machine. I really like it, as well as the flat bond technique. I think it lays better and clients have noted that its more comfortable to sleep on then barrel bonds. At first making the transition between thermal/round and cold/flat was challenging , but Im getting use to it now.
4)so far their customer service has been great, my hair comes in very quickly.
Hope this helps
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Posted By: leducred
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 7:52am
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I have Socap over a month
I have not lost a strand
They do not tangle.
I use the products I am sopose to and the extention brush
i do not feel the extention bonds when i sleep
Nor are they noticeable
Majority of reaction was " i had no idea your hair was that long, what great hair!" "wow nice hair!" etc. I have only told 3 people(Including my hubby) that i have extentions(it was his idea to get them).
I constantly get compliments from strangers - Friday I said to a guy who had his daughter with him "what she has beautiful hair" (and she did, she is 3yrs old, brown loose curly hair just perfect hair!) and he replied "like wise!" =)
Sher    ------------- s |
Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 10:04am
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You guys have been very helpful in my decision making process. I can't wait until I get the info in the mail! I appreciate all your opinions! ------------- http://www.Godiva-Hair.com - http://www.Godiva-Hair.com http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com - http://www.MetamorphosisHairDesign.com |
Posted By: MaginOC
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 10:30am
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Excellent info girls. I'm certified in the Cinderella system, but I have a couple of clients that seem to be having difficulty with them slipping. Not sure if Cinderella has changed something or not. These clients do very well with the Cinderella hair converted to i-tips and applied with shrinkies.
I will say that the quality of the Cinderella hair is excellent. In three years I've only had one bad batch, and it was the euro wavy which is like french refined.
Metalgirl: I feel your pain girl! I only have one client who I do silicone microrings on, and after her install my hand is bruised and sore for a week! I'm also not having much luck getting those rings to stay in and not slip no matter how tight the fit, or how hard I crimp them.
I'm going to check out SoCap too. It sound very interesting.
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Posted By: Shirilyn
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 12:06pm
I agree, I had the same problem with the short2long. The deep curl hair was okay, but it still tangled a little on my client. And my had was sore also...... I am going to go to the SoCap training next month or the month after. First I am going to the New Concepts training this weekend. Does anyone know if Socap has different textures, such as yaki, curly or french refined ect? I heard about the SoCap training in Florida, it is $300, but here in Texas it is $500 plus the amount of the machine.
Shiry ------------- http://www.myspace.com/texashairextensionqueen |
Posted By: MaginOC
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 12:15pm
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Shirilyn, I saw on the so.cap.usa website that the hair comes in straight, wavy, and curly. Does anyone know if Socap requires that you take their training class in order to buy their products? Maggi
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Posted By: barbielocs
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 12:18pm
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socap and socap original are not the same hair or quality and the logo on the bonds are different... ------------- |
Posted By: envoy13
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 1:26pm
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Maggi,
As far as I know, you have to take their training to purchase their hair. You have to go through their certification class.
Barbielocs, Im confused, what is the difference between socap and socap original, do you mean Socap and Eurosocap? Or Socapusa vs Socap Italy? Ive never heard of a distinction between socap and socap original, if you could give more info that would be great
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Posted By: barbielocs
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 1:35pm
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i use the socap USA- and the i have used the original socap too. you know how they say look for the logo on the hair? well socap usa is different than socap original. socap original is not as high quality bonds nor hair, i think. it seems a few steps below. the socap original is just an s shape in the bond where as socap usa has the shape plus the little design. i hope this help. i don't know if they were partners who broke apart or what. or if they just improved the product and kept the old product for people that were hooked.. anyways you can only get socap from the usa company not the original. the original you have to get from europe(pretty sure on this) ------------- |
Posted By: Shirilyn
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 5:45pm
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Has anyone used hair or ordered this before: http://www.visionhairextensions.com/OrderKits.htm - http://www.visionhairextensions.com/OrderKits.htm I think they are a sister company of SoCap or something similiar, I am not sure. i will request a sample of the hair. The curly hair will come in December.Shiry ------------- http://www.myspace.com/texashairextensionqueen |
Posted By: Shirilyn
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 5:49pm
I was looking into taking the Cinderella course, but you don't have to be certified to order from them. They are slipping??????? Well, that sucks, can't win from loosing. Now what? What shampoo are your clients using? I saw the Euro hair on his website, I am truly scared of it, it looks like that curl from shor2long. It looked to neat. When I was pulling it apart it would get tangled.
Shiry ------------- http://www.myspace.com/texashairextensionqueen |
MaginOC wrote:Posted By: Shirilyn
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 5:53pm
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Oh yeah, last thing, has anyone ordered hair from
www. sexyhairforyou.com? It is pricey, but you get a guarantee on the hair, which I like. The only thing I don't like about it is the keratin tips have the extra glue on it. What do you do for someone who has a small or big head and the tips still are not small or big enough?
Decisions, decisions......my head hurts.
Shiry ------------- http://www.myspace.com/texashairextensionqueen |
Posted By: barbielocs
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 6:12pm
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http://www.sexyhairforyou - www.sexyhairforyou is not that great the bonds are i tips with a dab of glue to melt on yourhair. you could do this your self with any itip.
if you take the cinderella course they guantee there hair if not they dont. so if you took it the slipping would be guanteed (i have never had anyslipping and use them a few times a week those babys last as long as you care for them esp with there products)
shiry-
in all the courses offered they yeach you how to fit the hair to the cients heads- it is worth the money to take them. you have to cut the bonds to fit the clients texture and so on. they come one size fits all so you need to adjust them ------------- |
Posted By: MaginOC
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 8:50pm
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I have samples of sexyhairforyou hair. I wasn't that impressed, and I too thought that weird keratin drop on the i-tip would be hard to adjust and work with. Cinderella does stand behind their product. I got a horrible batch of the euro wavy (curly). They credited my account for the full amount when I notified them of the problem. All in all, Cinderellas hair is the best quality I've used, with the most consistency. Their customer service is pretty good...I do occasionally have to wait on hold when ordering...their delivery time is super fast. My only other complaint about this company is that they occasionally run out of the color/texture I need, but they always try to accomodate me with the next best thing. Like giving me 20in. for the price of 16in. when they are out of stock. |
Posted By: envoy13
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 8:59pm
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Thanks Barbielocs!
Shirlyn, I dont think vision hair extensions is part of Socap, i think they call themselves Eurosocap. When I asked Socap USA if this was a part of the Socap family they told me it was not. I think this is why in the Socap USA website they state
"Look for the
 ™ logo to ensure that you are recieving genuine SO.CAP.USA Hair Extensions. Beware of competitors who use SO.CAP. in their name.There is only one real ™ SO.CAP.USA"I think this is what Barbielocs was also referring to. So when you talk to to the customer service of Visions, just make sure to ask them if they are related in any way to Socap USA.
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Posted By: Shirilyn
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 9:16pm
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Okay, that is reassuring. Thanks for the info. When I went to the hairshow, I loved the cinderella bonds. They were virtually undetectable and soft. Adrian cut his tips in half, he doesn'tlike the tips if they are too wide. The show you how to seal the top and bottom of the extensions. I liked it. Can someone PM the price of the Cinderella hair, I forgot how much you get for so many pieces.
Thanks, Shiry ------------- http://www.myspace.com/texashairextensionqueen |
Posted By: barbielocs
Date Posted: October 23 2006 at 9:17pm
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thats the logo think i was talking about. socap origianals is different. it is just an s. so you can tell the differance ------------- |
Posted By: barbielocs
Date Posted: October 26 2006 at 12:37am
just wondering if anyone can find the length on this hair? also does anyone know if it is indian or chinese hair? the whole kit seems pretty cheap (imo) so i wonder how good the hair is? ------------- |
Posted By: hollandbluejay
Date Posted: October 29 2006 at 11:45am
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It seems like I read somewhere on the internet that so.cap. italy was european hair.
envoy13: Is there any way to make regular bonds flat when applying, like by pressing the bond between a flat plated fusion wand? Shirilyn: When you say that they teach you how to seal the ends of the extensions, are you talking about individual bonds? Does this keep the moisture out? |
Posted By: asinnamon
Date Posted: October 30 2006 at 8:11am
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I have 2 sample strands of the Vision hair Extensions. These gals are in Keene, NH and I will be going to get my hair done within the next couple months. The hair itself feels very silky and fine. The bond tip is flat, not stick or U, and without logo. I can't tell if it's asian or indian. I know that they used SoCap for a long time, so I wonder if they have gotten thier own label so to speak.
I Will beinstalling the strands today to test them out and see how they wear in my hair.
I have been talking with Marissa...She is very nice and seems knowledgable. My one problem with them is that they say 4-6 months for install time. WE all know that goes against the tried and true 3 month timeline... ------------- |
Posted By: envoy13
Date Posted: October 30 2006 at 9:38am
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Hollandblue jay,
If you have a flat bond tip (i guess now Vision is making their own like socap?) then its easier to create a flat bond.Ive tried doing it with nail tips/u-tips and it was a little harder. The reason is you have to fold it like an envelope the corners first forward, and the corners back. I guess its a little hard to describe. But to my knowledge just using a purging tool to make the bonds flat will not be enough. You have to really make sure that the entire hair is sealed with the bond because if it isnt, then water/moisture can penetrate and weaken the bond, thus causing the bond to loosen and fall quicker. But you know you girls on this forum are so talented, Im sure someone can figure it out, or at the very least someone should put 2 or 3 bonds this way and see how long they last.
asinnamon-please keep us posted on this vision hair. Im very curious now about it. What are the prices for their hair? In terms of 4-6 months, this is possible, if they do touch-ups every 6 weeks. For instance, I replace any hair that is fallen, and if I see that some bonds are too low I also remove them at that time. In other words, I hope that its not like you get your extensions and then they dont see you for six months (that sounds scary).
But if they have you come in periodically to see how your bonds are doing , to remove low ones, and to replace some that have fallen, I think its possible to wear them for 4-6 months. All this system does is avoid a complete take down and re-application.
Have fun with your new hair
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Posted By: Shirilyn
Date Posted: October 30 2006 at 7:33pm
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