How can I remove product build-up w/o fading color
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Topic: How can I remove product build-up w/o fading color
Posted By: jentalkin2u
Subject: How can I remove product build-up w/o fading color
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 5:15am
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Hey there. I have color-treated hair. I had been using lots of silicone products for heat protection, but now my fine straight hair has build-up on it (even my stylist told me last week). I used a clarifying shampoo and that really, really faded my color. I'm due to color again anyway, so it's no biggie this time. Anyway, it didn't seem to work that well. It was Suave - maybe not a good brand? I read in a magazine you can use 1 teaspoon baking soda in your dollop of shampoo. That seemed to work better.
My question is, what do you guys use for product build-up so your color isn't affected? I'm going to quit using silicone products, though.
TIA! Jen :)
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Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 7:27am
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Yeah, clarifying shampoo is known to fade the color. I'm
surprised the baking soda didn't too though...maybe different dyes
react differently to acid or base (clarifying shampoo being acidic and
baking soda being more basic). When I used to dye my whole head,
I didn't clarify. Pulling the dye chemicals through the hair's
length removed my buildup just as good as a clarifying would. I'd
only do that though if you were going to do it anyway...I wouldn't
start pulling the dye through all of it if you wouldn't otherwise
because that will be very damaging over time.
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Posted By: Merlin
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 12:49pm
Just about a year ago I started using John Masters Organics products and have been very satisfied with their performance (plus they smell VERY nice). 
His Herbal Cider Hair Rinse & Clarifier is a once a week treatment that removes product buildup without stripping the color.
DIRECTIONS:
Use after shampooing and before conditioning. Dilute 1 capful in a glass of water and pour over your head, working through the hair. Leave in 1-3 minutes and rinse well.
You can buy it from any number of web sites, including Amazon, or directly from John Masters:
http://www.johnmasters.com/ - http://www.johnmasters.com/
I hope you find something works for you. Good luck!
 ------------- Merlin |
Posted By: jentalkin2u
Date Posted: October 31 2006 at 5:57pm
| Oh, cool! Thanks! That reminds me - I've also heard that apple cider vinegar diluted with water works well by itself. I wonder if it works as well as that shampoo? |
Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 7:14am
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That would be a vinegar rinse. Its good for removing minerals
from hard water, and helping to prevent some of the current build up
from cones if used frequently, but doesn't do a lot if you have thick
buildup already. ------------- Making metal barettes/concord clips hair safe, long hair style how to: http://alonghair.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Merlin
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 11:40am
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Cider vinegar rinse.....I haven't thought about that one for quite some time so I went to one of my books and found a couple of recipes.
You can use it as a rinse or mix it in your shampoo. Now that I think about it, I remember preferring the rinse to the shampoo because it tended to water down the shampoo and I like lots of suds.
 Anyway, to use in your shampoo, just add about 1/4 cup (more if your hair is long, less if it is short) of the cider vinegar to your shampoo, shake it up, and apply. Massage your scalp when lathering to get the full cleansing benefits of the cider vinegar.  Certainly worth that price.------------- Merlin |
Posted By: jentalkin2u
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 8:41pm
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Thanks so much for the tips. Is it true that vinegar won't fade the color? I've read conflicting information.
After I used baking soda (which worked pretty well, btw...) I read how bad it is for color. Oops! Amazingly enough it didn't fade too much. I used Ion color w/a 10 vol developer, so it's only a demi perm color! Good stuff. I'm going w/a 20 vol next time.
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Posted By: babycheeks24
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 11:27pm
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i only know of one that ive ever heard its clarifying for colored hair Biogenol Clarifying Shamoo. ------------- Babycheeks |
Posted By: babycheeks24
Date Posted: November 01 2006 at 11:41pm
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http://haircare4me.com/product/FBS-CLFY10 - http://haircare4me.com/product/FBS-CLFY10
oh and here is where you can get it. ------------- Babycheeks |
Posted By: Merlin
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 12:32pm
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I think the idea that cider vinegar won't strip color comes from two things:
1. It is used to set dyes in protein fiber textiles.
2. Rinsing these textiles in it occasionally will help extend their life.
Neither of these means that cider vinegar is good for maintaining dye color in human hair. That said, a lot of people who use natural dyes swear by it. In fact, you will even find it recomended on the Manic Panic web site. http://www.manicpanic.com/tips.html - http://www.manicpanic.com/tips.html
I don't know that using it with a commercial permenent dye would cause the color to fade but if you don't rinse with it too often it shouldn't be a problem.
I do know that using it prior to coloring is favored by many people. It helps to remove any deposits that might interfere with absorption of the color.
Perhaps you should ask the color manufacturer.
Good luck.
------------- Merlin |
Posted By: jentalkin2u
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 6:40pm
| I posted on another board about this, too, and someone mentioned Kenra Clarifying Shampoo being great w/o fading color. Just thought I'd let ya know! I think I'm gonna get some of that and lay off the silicones. |