how do you install fusion???
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Topic: how do you install fusion???
Posted By: xoxsn0whitexox
Subject: how do you install fusion???
Date Posted: December 08 2006 at 3:00pm
| is it better to use the glue gun or the pellets/chips??? Also if i use the pellets/chips can I use the wand to heat it up instead of a melting pot...ive found some demos on drlocks and yourhairshop..but it didnt really say much about which to use...and if i do use the pellets/chips can I use pretip hair that i pretip with LG?? thanks!!! |
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Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: December 08 2006 at 10:57pm
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You can use any of those things, the glue gun with glue sticks, the glue pot or the wand with chips or pellets. I think its just personal preference and which works best for you.
No, I wouldnt use hair that has been pretipped with LG for a fusion install. Keratin is the better choice. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: xoxsn0whitexox
Date Posted: December 09 2006 at 4:59am
| hahaha so im a little confused??? no to what??if i use the keratin..can i pretip with the LG or not..or do i pretip with something else..??? |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: December 09 2006 at 6:56am
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sorry, I meant if you are doing a fusion install use keratin to pretip. LG doesnt perform well for fusion. Keratin is the better choice. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: xoxsn0whitexox
Date Posted: December 09 2006 at 7:39am
| ok so ....i am looking at AMM's site and i was gonna buy from her...so i buy the keratin pellets to pretip with...how many do i need to do 4oz of hair?? and then do i use fusion bonds or fusion pellets??? thanks soo much for all your help! |
Posted By: xoxsn0whitexox
Date Posted: December 09 2006 at 8:06am
| so another ? sorry...can i actually just tip the hair with the same bond that I would use to put in my hair...like pretip it with the fusion/keratin pellets/chip/bond and then just heat it up with my hair?? if that makes any sesne...and which is the best kind to buy from AMMs store |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: December 09 2006 at 10:46pm
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those questions may be better answered by amm, as Im not familiar with the products in her store. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: amm
Date Posted: December 10 2006 at 1:56am
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Hi! Long time no see!
If you have a wand, a melting pot isn't necessary unless you'd prefer to dip your hair strands in. If you're making bonds for fusion, you don't have to pretip with LG. You can save yourself that step since the fusion bonds/pellets will do the work for ya. It's really a matter of choice on what you prefer for the glue. The keratin nail bonds are nifty because they're scooped on the sides. Bulk hair (even already tipped) slips right in the groove with the section of natural hair and it stays in place during the application. There's two kinds of pellets and they both work great on the wand. The removal solvent for both is acetone. One type of pellet is keratin and the translucent amber pellet is not. The important thing with fusion is to make sure that it's good and hot when rolling to ensure it's a nice tight bond that marries the extension hair to the natural hair.  It's good to see you drop by again!------------- http://shrinkies.net - Extension Supplies & Virgin Brazilian Hair |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 3:20pm
Please don't practice fusion on your own head, practice on a girlfriend, just kidding . Practice on a mannequin head or a wig pinned into a wig block. The glue gets extremely hot so wear finger protectors or let cool for about 3-4 seconds before rolling between your fingers. Don't install a bond any closer than a 1/4 inch from the root of the hair. Otherwise it would be too tight like tight braids and you could severely burn the scalp. You could eye it or use a scalp protector( thin plastic disk). You need to part your hair in sections as you go. Starting for the nape,first row hair, next row fusion bonds, next row hair,etc.,etc.,etc. up to the crown. Mind the edges, you don't want any of the bonds to show.
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Posted By: Darling Nikkie
Date Posted: December 24 2006 at 4:45am
Oops  ... I left no rows of hair between the fusion rows, only the edges... .------------- I learn to love and try to understand everyone I meet. I see the rainbow hiding in their eyes. 
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Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: December 24 2006 at 5:30pm
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It helps to hide the fusions. If the wind blows or you lower your head and your hair falls forward or you run your fingers through your hair, they shouldn't show if the bonds are short and small enough. The rows of hair don't have to be thick, just enough to cover your row of fusions so that you can't see them when you look at it. |
Posted By: Darling Nikkie
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 4:19am
Makes perfect sense of course!  ------------- I learn to love and try to understand everyone I meet. I see the rainbow hiding in their eyes.
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Posted By: xoxsn0whitexox
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 6:53am
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thanks so much!! i just got back from vegas....woohoo!! Ya..i had jsut been doing shrinkies for a while.like about a year or longer...and got busy..and my brother died this summer...so thats why i havent been around... Oh ya...and my mom does my hair :-) So... Bulk hair is better to use if you are doing fusion??? HOw much would i need to order to do a full head??? I have thin hair..so...not sure! thanks! |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 10:07am
You are going to want the bonds to be about the same size as the section of strands of hair that you bond them to. If you make the bonds a lot bigger than the strands you attach them to THEY WILL BE TOO HEAVY AND THEY WILL PULL YOUR HAIR OUT BY THE ROOTS!!!! Don't make them a lot smaller than the sections either. Don't freak out though when you remove them and see some of your own hair with the roots attach to your fusion bonds. We lose hair everyday and if they're in the bonds they STAY in the bonds Practice removing the bonds on your mannequin or wig pinned to the wig block. All keratin doesn't dissolve the same. The one my fusionist uses dissolves to a fine powder. The sticks I bought dissolve more like crumbly crayons, but they both dissolve in acetone. Do not use polywax, use keratin. It has gotten poor reviews. I've heard that it rips your hair out when you remove them.
Bulk hair:
4oz.-half a head
8oz.- full head
10-12oz- super full head (personal preference of course)
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Posted By: Breeya
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 5:06pm
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So i have a question. I want to install my pre tiped hair myself. But i dont have a heat wand. What else can i use to melt the glue? |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 5:19pm
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you definitely need the fusion wand to install hair that is preglued for fusion. I cant think of any other tool that gets hot enough or would work well. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Breeya
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 5:33pm
| Do you think that i can use the tip of the glue gun |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 11:56pm
| No. You would have to hold it there too long and then you would have to keep it hot until you put it to your hair. It cools in seconds. It would be too much work and too time consuming. The reason you buy pre-tips is to save you time and the grief of having to make them yourself. I guess you could apply it with a 1" flat iron but you would have to try to keep it from melting your other fusion bonds you've added, again too much work and too difficult. Why not make the investment in a wand. I bought mine on eBAY for $20. Conair also sells little cheap ones but I don't know how hot they get. You can probably find them on eBay too. |
Posted By: B.B.
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 11:04am
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xoxsn9whitexox - I tried using my flat iron way back when and although it heats the bonds I also found the glue ran causing a much longer bond than you want.
A fusion wand is the best investment you'll make & you can find good deals, like MSHONEY said, eBay maybe, or other shops. Trust us, it will make your install SOOOO much less work & look much better.
 Darling Nikki - Some leave hair between rows, some don't. Leaving some does help cover the bonds better. In my case my hair is so fine and I have a small head (yes, I know, sounds funny...I won't be offended at the laughter but trying to find small hats is a b*tch) - anywhooo..... if I leave hair between every row I won't have room to install enough hair.
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Posted By: nikitagadowska
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:02pm
WOW !!!!
That is a lot of hair You are using.
I normally put 4-5 OZ for full head.
One time I had 6 oz of hair in my head , and honestly it was waaaayyy too much.
But You're right, it all depends on what are U trying to achive.
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MSHONEY wrote:Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 11:17pm
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Im with MSHONEY....me likes BIG hair! ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: Darling Nikkie
Date Posted: December 29 2006 at 2:35am
Me too, but I don't know how to create big hair with fusion...  ------------- I learn to love and try to understand everyone I meet. I see the rainbow hiding in their eyes.
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Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: December 29 2006 at 2:43am
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SIZE MATTERS |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: December 29 2006 at 2:53am
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many rows of fusion with lots of hair on the bonds. press hard on and roll the bonds quickly when making them so that the bonded glue isn't to fat but thin enough and short enough that it remains hidden underneath your hair, you may have to cut them shorter. keep adding til you're happy |
. make sure you don't add to much weight to your hair. evenly balance your section of hair with your fusion bondPosted By: ViciousVixen
Date Posted: January 01 2007 at 3:47pm
| I have a good idea of what to do and how to do it. My only dilemma is that i don't know where to get the equipment/tools from to do. No beauty supply stores where i live sell the glue gun, fusion wand, pellets etc. Is there a specific site that i can go on to order this from and is it at a good price? I find that a lot of the hair on some sites cost a lot for only a little bit. Is there a particular wholesale site that i can go on to order what i need. Please Help if you can. |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: January 01 2007 at 4:50pm
| Halleyscurls.com for hair( buy bulk hair, it's cheaper) eBAY for fusion gun with S&H around $16-$30. You can also find the glue, hot glue gun and glue pot on eBAY, not sure of the prices. Make sure the glue is keratin and removeable with acetone. Michaels Crafts sell the glue gun and pot also, Make sure they're both high heat. |
Posted By: Breeya
Date Posted: January 03 2007 at 1:27pm
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Thanks for all the advice. I went ahead and installed the pre tipped hair the other day. It did work but took a long time and the bongs are longer then they would be with the wand. My next move is to buy the wand for next time. I did my hair myself for the first time. Looks good but i will never do it again. HAHA Next time ill get someone to do it for me. |
Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: January 03 2007 at 1:55pm
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Long bongs? I'm lost here...
(I'm guessing a funny typo?) ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: asinnamon
Date Posted: January 03 2007 at 2:22pm
Ah, I have a pot bellied bong  ...oh those were the days before kids and responsibility.------------- |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: January 03 2007 at 2:26pm
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I think she meant bonds. Don't give up girl. You'll be able to do them faster with the fusion iron. Remember, you can always cut those bonds shorter. If they're showing, just spritz some 100% acetone( you can use nail polish remover or acetone from a hardware store like Home Depot) on the ones you don't like and replace them.
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Posted By: Darling Nikkie
Date Posted: January 04 2007 at 2:47am
Bong, bond, it's all good  ------------- I learn to love and try to understand everyone I meet. I see the rainbow hiding in their eyes.
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Posted By: B.B.
Date Posted: January 04 2007 at 11:06am
aaaahahahahahahahahaha...you see, I was going to be good and leave that one alone.
 Why is it we don't appreciate the no-responsibility days when we have them? Now I'd be happy for just an hour alone in the house without having to do anything! |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: January 04 2007 at 2:53pm
| I'm 39 and my baby is going to be a senior in high school this year. When this heffa graduates I'm going to take no-responsibility to a whole 'nother level. I'm going to freeze abou 6 months of dinners for my husband and a sister's gonna travel. |
Posted By: asinnamon
Date Posted: January 05 2007 at 5:27am
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Typos are so fun! I'm 32, and my kids are 3 & 5, so I have a while to go.....
Anyhow, if I don't really take my time I end up with long bonds too. I trim my tips too, about the width of my fusion iron works for me. When I first started, my bonds were over an inch long  . it just takes practice.------------- |