Bohyme/EP question
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Topic: Bohyme/EP question
Posted By: kristie m
Subject: Bohyme/EP question
Date Posted: April 16 2007 at 10:18pm
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I've been trying to learn about the origins of the hair we love and I've been thinking... where the heck does Bohyme hair come from? Is it Indian? Asian? I know it was coarser when I felt it than the Russian hair I'm wearing now. It seemed as course as the Wagman Indian hair I used to wear. I got to wondering about this the other day. And does Bohyme have its cuticle intact or is it processed? I searched all over the Iinternet and the ads says Bohyme is "remy" hair. I thought "remy" meant the cuticle was intact. But then I heard that Bohyme has been processed. And what in heck is a bohyme? I even looked it up on Wikipedia and couldn't find it. I'm probably just not looking in the right place but I've had a dickens of a time trying to get a straight answer to these questions. TIA for any help or information on this. ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
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Posted By: Naked Eye
Date Posted: April 16 2007 at 10:36pm
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Now, I really don't know the answer here, but from random stuff I've heard here and there, is that it is a mix of indian and asian hair (even though indian...would be...the same as asian hair?) So I'm guessing that would mean indian and chinese hair? But then from others I've heard blend of european.
I believe it might be different textures come from different regions? I am pretty much just as confused as you though! Just trying to repeat what I've read! |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: April 16 2007 at 10:50pm
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I can only tell you the information that the Bohyme reps have given me. And to be quite honest I think they are rather secretive of their process. They claim they have a superiour process to lift and color hair, which is gentler than 'traditional' processes & chemicals used by many hair manufacturers. They say that the 'chemicals' they use are 'food grade' and gentler to the hair, and it takes 30 days to lift the color, whereas many companies lift and process the hair quickly to get the hair out the door and into the market. Ive also been told when asked what type of hair this is, they said Asian and European, again...no specifics. Nor have I had the need to ask more, but Im sure they would supply it. Again, this is the information Ive been given by Bohyme, and they dont give out a whole lot of info on their process. For me personally it really doesnt matter much to me what their process is, as long as the hair holds up well. Ive also been told by other sources, that they do a smoothing process to the cuticles. Not a removal, but they smooth the cuticles, preserving the cuticles (at least to some degree). Hence the trademarked word "Remi" signifying Bohymes own process. Here is a picture of the back of the Bohyme package. ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 12:58am
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Whew! I guess my confusion from my efforts to become more informed about the origins of the different hair brands isn't because of my own stupidity after all. It sounds like some of the hair companies may be a bit secretive about where their hair comes from and the processes used to get the hair ready for the consumer.
It looks like Bohyme has a trademark on "Remi." It seeems that "Remi" might mean their process of taking cuticle-aligned hair and smoothing the cuticle so the Asian/Chinese texture matches Caucasian hair more closely? I saw when I was looking around on the Internet that lots of companies use "remy" to describe their hair. I was under the impression that "remy" meant that the cuticle of the hair wasn't smoothed, processed or stripped in any way. But does it seem like "remy" has come to be used to describe almost any "quality Caucasian-textured hair" in the human hair industry. Aaack! No wonder this is all so confusing. I was also wondering about where EP gets their Caucasian-textured hair. EP says they have "Italian" hair to match Caucasian textures... I'm guessing (because that article from BHM says that "'Italian hair' is actually Indian hair") that EP's Italian must be Indian hair with the cuticle partly removed? And then, what is EP's "European" hair? Does anyone know? I actually tried to clarify this with the staff at EP awhile back and didn't feel like I got much of a clear answer. I'm sure not questioning that companies like Bohyme and EP sell high-quality hair. I also know that most consumers don't want or need to know these kinds of details before they buy their hair. I'm one of the strange ones who wants to know everything about the products I love and spend my money on. Thanks to Sherrie for a quick, interesting response (I'd never read the Bohyme package... thanks for taking the time to post it) and thanks in advance for anyone who can help clarify my other questions as well. My mom always said I was way too nosy for my own good. I think she was right!  ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: Quadratic
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 1:02am
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I've had a couple different types of Bohyme in my hair, including Silky Straight, Egyptian Wave, and another one which I'm not really sure.
(Body Wave maybe?)
And I can remember it feeling coarser and being "poofier," which attributed to it photographing really well from what I remember. But I can't really say that it would rank #1 in the kind of hair you're boyfriend would be dying to touch and run his fingers through. I mean, it wasn't
sandpapery by any means, but the coarseness can be felt when touched, so it wasn't exactly a satin pillowcase either.
But like I said, it photographed pretty damn well, and took a lot of abuse from me. And when I say abuse, I'm not exaggerating.
Now I'm going to be trying the Virgin Body which is supposed to be finer in texture and supposedly silkier. However, there's really not as many reviews and photos of this type of hair. but from what I understand
(from what I have been able to find),
the reason it's silkier and finer is because it's Indian, whereas the others are Asian, therefore being coarser.
But also, if I'm correct, the Egyptian wave is a combo in order to achieve the special texture it has (Asian and Indian together I believe).
But maybe there are European hairs mixed in too? If so, I'm thinking that might be part of the European Body/Virgin Body. But one of the things that I've come across in some of my reads is that most hair that claims to be European is actually Indian processed to be a European texture (much easier to do to Indian than to Asian I gather). I mean, that in the way they use the adjectives is more of a description of the texture, rather than the origin. Or a combination of the 2 so that technically it still gets to be called European.
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Posted By: nursie
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 2:45am
| hmmm, and to add to the mix i've read that 'spanish' 'malaysian' and 'brazillain' hair are all referring to the types of processing not the country-of-origin of the hair.....which for me is merely an interesting fact, i really dont care where it comes from as long as it works for me....but for people who choose to spend extra money for a certain type, its all quite misleading |
Posted By: Quadratic
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 4:38am
Hehe, me too. Heck, I'd wear a horsetail on my head if it would look pretty and be soft. Those look to be about 22" anyway, plus they withstand all the tail flipping and blowing in the wind. If a horse can have non-tangly hair after all that galloping and frollicking, why can't I after just turning my head to the left
 Hmm.. H.H. acronym = Horse Hair? |
nursie wrote:Posted By: nursie
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 7:05am
 i guess the horse's have 'cuticle intact-cuticle aligned nonprocessed-virgin-remi/y natural texture refined hair'!! 
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Posted By: frenchie1
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 7:13am
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I remember reading on a Bohyme package that the cuticle had been removed. It was on the original Bohyme package but it looked a tiny bit old...
I think Remy really means cuticle aligned, and "Remi" well maybe is the Bohyme original process
Bohyme works great for me, so that's what matters to me!
The question I had in mind about Bohyme was in fact a rather ethical question: I was wondering where the hair was coming from...since Bohyme is supposed to be asian hair (indian didn't work so well for me), it cannot come from those indian temples where they shave the women's heads for ceremonies, and I know that China is not really a free country or a model for human rights... and I can't help but wonder, how can they get such amazing hair in such big quantities, because Bohyme is a huge supplier, in the whole world...
Now, don't get me wrong, I am not accusing anybody of anything, and I LOVE my Bohyme, it's been the best hair I have ever had... but I can't help thinking, where is it from?!!!
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Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 11:14am
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See, that's the reason why I'm asking these questions as a consumer, Frenchie. By understanding the origins and processes used to make the products I support I'm able to make more informed choices all the way around.
It's a little disturbing to me to realize how little we know about the human hair business when some of us really care about human rights violations in the world. Others of us may just want to understand why some hair is priced higher than other hair or why some really expensive hair seems to last longer than other top-priced hair. I've learned there are also some women who have a religious reason for needing to know the origin of their hair. Apparently, the Chief Rabbi made a decree awhile back that because Indian hair is collected in a temple ritual of another religion, Orthodox Jewish women aren't allowed to use it for their sheitels (hairpieces used in observance of Jewish laws about women covering their hair in public.) I also learned that because of this change the demand for true Northern European hair has gone way up. This hair currently comes from parts of Northern and Eastern Russia, and is collected by agents, door-to-door, town to town, a ponytail at a time. Learning about this helped me to understand why the Russian hair I wear is so expensive. Also, knowing that it is "true" European hair that hasn't been processed in any way allows me to feel confident after spending a bunch of money on it that it will remain soft and lustrous and last a long time. I don't spend money on luxury items because they're expensive or have an identifiable label. Value for me always involves an assessment of the quality of the product and its worth to me personally. ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: malibu
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 12:09pm
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I'm wondering why Bohyme is so secretive?
If I were selling a product I would need to know what it was that I was selling. |
Posted By: nursie
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 3:53pm
can you imagine, a guy in a dark suit and sunglasses shows up on your doorstep requesting a deal on your ponytail!? |
Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 4:02pm
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Laughing, Nursie... The whole thing is so strange and interesting, isn't it? I read that there are whole families in Russia that have grown and sold their hair over and over for a long time.
You know, when I got my Russian hair I almost cried when I first saw it. It was so beautiful I couldn't imagine anyone having hair like that and cutting it off! ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: nursie
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 4:16pm
| had i been born into a russian family, they would have been waiting FOREVER for my hair to get even past my shoulders!! |
Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 4:23pm
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They'd take one look at MY hair and just dump me in the well! I don't even have enough natural hair to make a paintbrush, let alone a ponytail! ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: nursie
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 4:28pm
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lol, they'd sell us to wagman primus and make paintbrushes out of us!!
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Posted By: malibu
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 6:04pm
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I'm a pure bread Russian, I got shorthanded!!!
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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 10:50pm
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Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 10:56pm
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Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 11:22pm
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I understand your perspective, Amm. But I've got to say that your helpfulness when I was buying Elite Remy in answering all my questions about the hair was what convinced me to buy from you. Had you said "It's hair" when I asked you about it I would have never felt comfortable buying it from you. ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: malibu
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 11:52pm
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I agree Kristie I want to know too! I'm really interested in this, it fasinates me. If Bohyme or any other company wants to be vague then so be it. I'm sure they worked hard, we all do... that's really not the issue. ------------- |
Posted By: frenchie1
Date Posted: April 18 2007 at 9:30am
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I understand Amm's perspective very well too.
I remember that when the business of extensions started to be famous in France, a few years ago, the salons that were doing extensions (very $$$) had to explain where the hair was from, with little brochures and pictures of the indian women etc.
Because one of the first questions that comes to your mnd when you start being interested in hair extensions is "where is it from?"
and it's only normal curiosity.
And I do feel like there is an ethical question under all this, I would like to be reassured and be sure that no woman has been exploited or badbly treated to allow us to wear beautiful hair.
To get back to the 'business' perspective, it's understandable that the Bohyme representatives don't want to talk too much about the origins of the hair and how they process it. There are so many people already stealing their name to sell crappy hair, so they don't need people stealing their techniques on top of it.
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Posted By: malibu
Date Posted: April 18 2007 at 12:04pm
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Frenchie, you're right. I'm not saying they need to tell us their trade secrets. I think most companies who coat their hair put a lot of jive lingo on the package and generally people have no idea what it means but it sounds glorious. When they say it's "European" most people trust them because they feel the soft, silky hair. If they would honestly say it's Indian it would be obvious that the hair was processed and siliconed, after several washes it becomes coarse and mattes up. Indian hair is dry and coarse by nature, it becomes worse after the acid bath a lot of these companies perform to remove the cuticle. The hair also gets bleached because lets face it, you CANNOT color Indian hair without bleaching it first. When the silicone coat is gone - time to buy new hair. People have to know the origin, period. Nobody is asking them about their processing secrets! ------------- |
Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: April 18 2007 at 4:28pm
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I sent off an email today to one of the Bohyme sales representatives. Here is my email and her response:
----- Original Message -----
From: mailto:debbie@bohyme.com - Debbie Sienkowski
To: mailto:sales@hairextensions101.com - Hair Extensions 101 Sales
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Bohyme Questions
Bohyme is a mixture of European, Asian and Indian hair. The cuticle is intact, it is processed obviously because otherwise it would only come in black. However, the cuticle is not damaged during possessing because we use a food grade chemical, to remove the color and then also a food grade chemical to put the color back in. You could actually put your hand in the chemicals and then lick your fingers. Bohyme owns the copyright to the word Remi which means that the hair runs root to tip.
Hope that helps.
Hair Extensions 101 Sales <sales@hairextensions101.com> wrote: < content="MS 6.00.6000.16414" name=GENERATOR> <> ------------- www.hairextensions101.com - www.hairextensions101.com www.mybeautyaddiction.com - www.mybeautyaddiction.com |
Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: April 18 2007 at 5:16pm
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Thanks for the information, Sherrie! That's so interesting. The representative from Bohyme was saying that the only processing done to the hair is coloring it. I wonder how Bohyme turns the texture of Indian hair into such a sleek straight product without doing anything to the cuticle? Indian hair always has a frizzy, bunchy quality unless the texture is processed quite a bit. I guess it is just a part of their magic way with hair! ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: frenchie1
Date Posted: April 18 2007 at 6:02pm
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Thanks fot the post Sherrie!
I didn't know it was a mix of asian AND indian. I thought it was just asian hair. It's good to know that they don't use bad stuff to process the hair
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Posted By: Naked Eye
Date Posted: April 18 2007 at 11:02pm
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That's great to know sherrie, personally, if it works, it works. That's all I care about. You could cut hair off someone's ass and if it holds up well and looks good on me, then I am sold! (Although I might wash it like 100000x with gloves on before even touching. And needless to say I would never tell ANYONE what the origins of the hair were!)
But I personally still don't get this whole origin thing. I mean, russian is great, but I know some real russians, and from my understanding they have never processed their hair, and frankly, I would never want that stuff on my head! So why is some so nice? I think it's all a big scam!
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Posted By: Quadratic
Date Posted: April 18 2007 at 11:50pm
That's a very good point. I think a large factor is how the person takes care of themselves from the inside out, ie, their eating habits, do they intake enough vitamins/nutrients/minerals, etc...And the reasons could be by choice, or because of the living conditions.
Another large part could be genetics. And sometimes even hormonal changes or imbalances could affect the quality of the hair too. Maybe the person was on birth control or medication, etc..
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Posted By: Quadratic
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 12:23am
Good point as well. I think all of these circomestances factor in together and each have an impact, the degree of impact varying of course.
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Posted By: malibu
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 12:29am
What's a big scam Columbo? ------------- |
Posted By: malibu
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 12:31am
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I can tell you first hand this Russian hair I'm wearing has held up
better than any hair I've tried. I'm not a seasoned vet or anything but
this hair blends in like my own and I don't have to think about it at
all. It's truely a pleasure. With any other hair I've tried I have to
brush it several times each day while I'm sitting in my office at work.
It's not like I was out at the beach.
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Posted By: Naked Eye
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 12:52am
Tell that to the Russian people I know and there will be some problems! But...um...yeah, thanks for telling me I don't know what I am talking about?? |
Posted By: Naked Eye
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 1:05am
No, scam refered to all the origin junk. It's probably all just from one person who has a hair growth problem!
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Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 1:57am
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"All the origin junk" ? You know, one person's "junk" is another's treasure. It's bizarre that a simple expression of curiosity about a subject we all like to talk about has provoked such critical responses. ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: kristie m
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 2:00am
<laughing> Talk about bizarre! Have y'all noticed the big blue advertisement in the middle of this thread?  ------------- Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE! |
Posted By: Quadratic
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 2:05am
Hehe :-) Sometimes I've wondered if there's this big massive mythical chia head growing an endless stream of hair for all.
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Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 7:21am
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Posted By: frenchie1
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 7:47am
I think we should all calm down a bit. This is just hair.
We are all different people with different perspectives, I personally am interested in the origins of the hair I am wearing, and I think it's natural curiosity.
Some girls just love russian hair and think it's the best, why not respecting this point of view?
And some just don't care about where the hair they're wearing is from, and that is just fine too.
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Posted By: Naked Eye
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 8:58am
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Wow, looks like everyone lost a sense of humor lately...
Sorry for offending everyone with a joke... Wow, everyone needs to lighten up! |
Posted By: sarytyr
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 11:18am
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People are different as to what matters to them, for some it may be where the human hair they buy comes from and how it was obtained, for others is how their food was grown (organic/conventional) and where it was grown (locally, etc.), and still for others, their concerns may be with the moral or religious beliefs of those they do business with. We all (consumers and producers) have our own moral compasses, preferences and even phobias and we live our lives accordingly at any given time. The only way to be certain of the origins of human hair is to buy it directly from the person who grew it. Even if it matters to them, those who traffic (I know, bad word, but I couldn't think of one with a better connotation right now) in human hair cannot always know the personal situation of those providing of every hair that comes their way as they are likely depending on the honesty of others as well. Of course, there are those that don't care because it is not important according to their beliefs, etc. Folks, no matter what - the bottom line for anyone running a business is $$$$, making a living.
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