The hard, medium, or soft brush debate.
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Printed Date: August 05 2025 at 9:05pm
Topic: The hard, medium, or soft brush debate.
Posted By: wave connection
Subject: The hard, medium, or soft brush debate.
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 1:04pm
I think alot of wavers overstate the usefulness of a soft brush. It's kind of like an over-used cliche that everyone says, but it isn't necessarily true. Although you hear may wavers say use a softy for connection, they rarely, if ever tell you why this is true.
The facts are that after your hair reaches a certain length, you need a medium or hard brush to maintain effective hair/wave training. The brush bristles, during the brushing motion, must make contact with the hair strand near the follicle in order to adequately train new hair growth. If your new growth is not being trained correctly, it is going to change the pattern of the rest of the hair strands/waves. And it is the uniformity of the curved or "S" portion of the hair strand that determines the preciseness of your connections.
Depending on your hair texture, a soft brush is, for the most part, most effective when your hair is below a 1 and a half guard. After that you need to switch to a medium or hard brush. The exceptions would be for touch ups and/or product application(s), when a soft brush is most advantageous. In these instances a soft brush would prevent "raking," which is not good for allowing your hair to lay down or for spreading product(s) evenly.
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Posted By: wave connection
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 1:39pm
| Please not that some experienced wavers have unsolved connection problems that they can't succesfully figure out. In many instances, they think/say that they're using a softy to help correct the connection issues, but to no avail. A hard or medium brush can be an answer to this wave conundrum. |
Posted By: Willie SKRILLA
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 1:40pm
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Oh no there definitely is a point where a softy is no longer useful but for me it works fine up to 7 weeks. After that it is overkill. One thing you fail to mention is that scalps vary from person to person. I'm on week 10 and using a hard brush for over 25 minutes gives me serious scalp pains. The defing factor in brushes is your scalp, not hair length.
------------- You can't win with women. You just have to maintain." - Wave Connection Real Recognize Real |
Posted By: wave connection
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 1:44pm
Please note that I said a medium or hard brush. Also, note that the exact point at which a soft brush becomes ineffective differs from individual to individual, as hair growth rates differ. But the facts are that when your hair length reaches some theoritical point, a soft brush will eventually lose efficacy.
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Posted By: S.C. King
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 1:47pm
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really a soft is the answer to the connection!!! man my waves had no connection to my sides until i started using a soft brush!!! casue i WAZ like you wave connection, softy does no justice except for when trying to keep hair flat and for touch-ups to the hair-line!!! but i waz wrong!!! so one week i jsut used a softy and i seen my waves started to connect!!! so now it in betweeen the hard brush to!!! but the ahrd brush get you waves point blank peroid!!! and a medium will to at a slower rate though!!!
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Posted By: wave connection
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 1:51pm
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I agree that a soft brush will help with connection when your hair is at a low length. But after a certain amount of hair growth, if you continue to use a soft brush, you're going to lose this benefit. |
Posted By: S.C. King
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 1:56pm
in a way you could be right and in a way you could be wrong!!! in my case you're wrong!!! in othr cases ur right!!! but i know ppl with the super easy wave hair like chris dog and three six oh that can only use a soft brush cause anything else hurts their hair!!! ------------- http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005022306508046141">
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Posted By: Willie SKRILLA
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 2:02pm
Okay but you're arguing semantics because before a certain point you can't use a medium or hard. It's the same back and forth. They all have use. Their isn't one particularly better than another. ------------- You can't win with women. You just have to maintain." - Wave Connection Real Recognize Real |
Posted By: wave connection
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 2:03pm
Good point, S.C., but as you can see, I took hair texture into consideration.
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Posted By: wave connection
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 2:10pm
Btw, S.C., what I do know is that ChrisDog and TSOH recommend medium brushes for hair textures like theirs.
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Posted By: cm0t0wn1
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 2:39pm
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I do agree with wave connection. After a certain point a softy is ineffective. It would only help with getting surface waves.
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Posted By: Moneyman232
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 2:45pm
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I completely agree...when i started waving on the top of my head some time ago i was all about a softy until i saw i was getting nowhere with it after a few weeks...with my texture using a softy to wave is like trying to kill a fly with a toothpick, possible but ineffective. But WC your always contributing good reads, good lookin out fam
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Posted By: S.L.A.B.
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 3:18pm
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brushing in general will get connection whut good is a soft brush if it aint movin ya hair? ------------- [QUOTE=25cent]thats a old time waver named stormy seas he got waves trust me [/QUOTE] founder of the 180 meths 
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Posted By: wave connection
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 3:29pm
Nicely said.
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Posted By: meech313
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 4:47pm
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wc you show do be dropping some well thought out info. keep it coming ------------- 
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Posted By: King Cash
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 5:17pm
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Eff that^ If WC makes another thread there's gonna be a problem! lol jp...i've been likin ur informative and other survey-like threads. keep it comin bruh. "A hard or medium brush can be an answer to this wave conundrum." - WCAt the end of my first week i started usin a medium and at the middle of the 2nd i started usin a hard one. I'm just experimenting. ------------- http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/12/8/f_sigma008m_7947f3e.jpg&srv=img37"> 
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Posted By: Davo
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 5:38pm
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I just continuously use a medium brush. I only grab my softy now by accident. My hair never needs the hard brush. As for the medium, It does it's purpose. I posted maybe two months ago that the softy helped with my connection, but in actuality it didn't. The medium is what I use all day everyday, and after every cut my wave definition gets better. ------------- 
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Posted By: Drek
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 5:49pm
| dub c in the place to be always giving knowledge........ i like that mayne |
Posted By: Tru Texan
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 5:52pm
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"trying to kill a fly with a toothpickDavo", LMAO!!!!! Good one!
ur waves have come along a lot in just 2 months....Nw they look all sharp and krisp, I see ya pimpin..
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Posted By: Meji
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 5:54pm
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I knew it - that softy bullsh*t was starting to piss me off.
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Posted By: wave connection
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 6:50pm
Sounds good, Cash.
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Posted By: LaDyWaVeS
Date Posted: June 20 2007 at 10:27pm
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a softy just makes my hair angry...lol...does nothin but barely move my hair...i can use it for the first couple of days but it feels like its doing nothing after that point. ------------- i wanna spin too, lemme do it |
Posted By: Sleepy B
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 4:14am
Thats exactly how I feel. I was gonna start usin a softy 2day after my cut. but I had an incident. My right side was finally coming in. I knew if I got my hair cut 2 low it would disappear so I told my barber I wanted a #2 cut( I usually get a low cut check my old threads) and he cut it da same way he usually cut it  . So now I have 2 start my right side all over again . I'm so F*ckin Pissed right now. I'll use a medium my first week then after that I'll start usin a hard brush. I'm not even gon attempt 2 use a softy now. Has this ever happened 2 anybody else?------------- |
Posted By: wave connection
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 6:00am
| My last barber cut my waves out around the end on '05. It set me back several weeks, but I recovered and switched barbers. |
Posted By: StarBaller22
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 6:03am
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some people like me who have VERY fine hair only use softies and occasionally meds(to speed up the wave process).
but when my hair wuz high and i found out bout this site, i used a hard IN and OUT the shower. with that said it only took me only 2-3 weeks to get waves.
now, after using motions con., CC, and probably genetics....i have a very fine and soft texture.....and only use softy and rarely med ------------- still holdin' b-boy crown @ school |
Posted By: wave connection
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 6:10am
As you can see, I mentioned hair texture as a factor in my post.
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