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Topic: Pics of my Russian weft! (and a Q)
Posted By: UCFXtina
Subject: Pics of my Russian weft! (and a Q)
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 7:46pm
here are the pics of my 19/20" double drawn virgin med. brown wavy weft...beautiful! just one q...it came back to me wefted by EP and was obviously folded, but it's stuck together at the end and at one place kind of near the middle....what's up with that?
 
 
 
(here is one place where it's stuck together..)



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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 7:52pm
Originally posted by UCFXtina UCFXtina wrote:

here are the pics of my 19/20" double drawn virgin med. brown wavy weft...beautiful! just one q...it came back to me wefted by EP and was obviously folded, but it's stuck together at the end and at one place kind of near the middle....what's up with that?


Is it just stuck where a weft sealant was applied or is it actually sewn together? Does it pull apart easily?

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Posted By: UCFXtina
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 7:53pm
it's not sewn together. i dont know if it was done for packaging reasons maybe to keep it from getting tangled orr...?? do i pull it apart since its just glued?


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 7:56pm
yes, just slowly pull it apart.

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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 7:58pm
Originally posted by UCFXtina UCFXtina wrote:

it's not sewn together. i dont know if it was done for packaging reasons maybe to keep it from getting tangled orr...?? do i pull it apart since its just glued?


If there's a sealant on the weft, it's probably just a little sticky. If you pull it apart and rip the weft, you may be SOL so be cautious. I personally would gently see if I could separate it. If it's good and stuck, I'd call EP.

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Posted By: UCFXtina
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 7:59pm
ok, did it and it's fine. just wanted to make sure i wasnt going to ruin $60 of work! thanks all=]


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 8:00pm
were you able to remove the sticky stuff?

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Posted By: UCFXtina
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 8:03pm
yes, it pulled apart, the middle slightly easier than the end, but everything intact and the sticky is gone


Posted By: amm
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by UCFXtina UCFXtina wrote:

yes, it pulled apart, the middle slightly easier than the end, but everything intact and the sticky is gone




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Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 8:04pm
cool, very pretty what's the color?

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Posted By: UCFXtina
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 8:06pm
it's just medium brown...i think i actually (instead of dying it and my hair different browns..) keep the color and have my hair dyed to match it:)


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 8:07pm

sounds like a good plan.



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Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 16 2007 at 8:29pm
Did you find an extensionist yet? Where are you from?

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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 6:49am
Beautiful! yes i see what you mean about it doesnt appear like much hair laying down like that. Mine looked exact same way and about the same amount of hair. You splurged and went with double drawn though so you should not have to cut one speck of it if you want it all one length.

That weft looks good but i would say no bettert than the micro hand tied they do on the Russian site. Mine was a little sticky also and it just pulls apart and also it was crinkled up and would not lie flat but once sewn to my head, no problem. Yours should be fine. I love the color and wave! gorgeous!


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 8:21am
yes, the wefts look very nice, they did very good work. Were they supposed to look better than the Russian site's micros? They were probably much cheaper to send them out than to buy the micro handtieds from the Russian site.

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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 8:48am
No MsHoney, I asked to see EPs wefts because mine I had done from the Russian site. They do the micro hand tied ones. I just wanted to see if EP looked any different or smaller, what have you and its about the same.


Posted By: UCFXtina
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 8:59am
thanks allBig%20smile  well after talking to a bunch of people i decided on ordering the russian then sending it off to be wefted by EP....i dont know how much it is to order already wefted hair straight from the russian site....but with shipping and everything else total, it was about $72 for EP. it is machine wefted by the way....im using protac/maybe a little LG for my install (havent QUITE decided on the EXACT technique yet...) so i wont be going to have it sewn in. im really just trying to find someone familiar with all of this so that they 1)dont look at me funny lol and 2)maybe do a better job. i found one lady, but she pretty much came off like she was a 'big deal' and was almost 'above' diy extensions or really anything other than strand by strand, soo...yeah. no luck yet! all i know is i finally want this hair on my head, its been over a month since i began all of this!!


Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 9:15am
That is frustrating. Its almost as if there is this big anti movement against the sew ins or glue ins or tape ins, all of it. I also found it frustrating.

Let me tell you when I was calling around trying to find, someone, anyone, that would do a sew in on me, I got this one broad on the phone.

I told her what I wanted to do with my wefts and she said and I quote:

"Why did you get it wefted? That is ghetto. Tracks are bulky and wont look right on you. Come in and I can cut it off and pre-tip it for you and do something better."

I almost wanted to scream at her! But I just said no, and politely got off the phone.

Wefting and weaves is about the best thing going in my personal opinion after wearing it now. It makes me angry! grrr.


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 10:19am
Originally posted by krimsa krimsa wrote:

No MsHoney, I asked to see EPs wefts because mine I had done from the Russian site. They do the micro hand tied ones. I just wanted to see if EP looked any different or smaller, what have you and its about the same.
 
Have I what?


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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 10:36am
OOps, by "what have you" I meant that as the expresion what have you. I wasnt asking you anything and i think i probably used incorrect grammer or punctuation. Dont worry about it lol.


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 10:45am
no problem. Most use the same techniques so they would look the same. Now, some don't do a good job at all and that can cause them to begin to unravel or the hair will start to "escape" from the top of the weft after a few months. The more reputable vendors will quickly replace or repair them. Some of the cruddier ones will give you the run around and may not fix them at all. You just have to be mindful of the reputation of some vendors that deal with handtied wefts.

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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 10:53am
Good advice. I am totally new to all this so any info is greatly appreciated. Thats why I wanted to see EPs. They look good. The feeling seems to be that machine wefts are somewhat larger and bulkier than hand tied but I dont know about that. Like you say, it probably varies from vendor to vendor.

My biggest worry/concern is that the hair does not shed out of them too quickly. So far, so good with this micro hand tied. The top of these wefts I have installed now are a little bit harder than what I have seen on other wefts. I did ask the company about that and they said its a sealant that is used to keep the hair from shedding but if I dont like it, simply soak it in Hello Hydration to make it more pliable. I didnt even bother with that and normal wear has molded it to my head anyway.


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 11:04am
 yeah, many vendors will seal them for you, every one doesn't want it but it's offered.
 I've found that most people preferred handtied wefts, which are more expensive, because they were smaller and not bulky but now machine wefts are smaller and less bulky too so shopping around can save you a bundle. How much more were your handtieds compared to the bulk price?


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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 11:15am
I dont even know now honestly. I can look it up on the site. I know I also did single drawn and that was less expensive than double. I did one weft that was custom and it ended up I did not need that because she sliced off some of that length anyway to make it fit to my head so i wont be doing that again lol. So depending on what you end up doing, price goes up and down.

I was happy with the single drawn honestly and only ended up trimng a little. They dont screw you or anything.


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 11:27am
you've been very fortunate. Many women have had very horrible experiences with their vendors. I'm sure you've read some of the horrors stories here yourself. I'm glad that you haven't fallen victim to one. So many people have been mistreated by companies that have taken their money and have given them horrible customer service in return. You should thank your lucky stars, I know I doBig%20smile. I've been fortunate too.
  Krimsa is a very pretty name, what does it mean? I've always wondered about it. Is it your real name or nickname?


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Posted By: malibu
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 11:34am
Originally posted by Ms.Honey Ms.Honey wrote:

no problem. Most use the same techniques so they would look the same. Now, some don't do a good job at all and that can cause them to begin to unravel or the hair will start to "escape" from the top of the weft after a few months. The more reputable vendors will quickly replace or repair them. Some of the cruddier ones will give you the run around and may not fix them at all. You just have to be mindful of the reputation of some vendors that deal with handtied wefts.


Mr. Honey, if you really believed this you wouldn't have gone off on Rocket when her wefts fell apart.


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Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 11:37am
Well it was Rocket who set me straight about it.

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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 11:40am
Well I have been fortunate in dealing with the Russian wefts so far but let me tell you, in the past I have had problems but that was from not doing any kind of homework myself and simply expecting everything to come out hunky dory. It just doesnt work that way when dealing with hair lol. I used to always use the hair provided to me by the stylist installing it meaning if I got GL, I used that hair, if I got Hairlocs, I used that hair. Its better to take control in my opinion and get what will work best instead of relying on the stylist or whoever is doing the install.


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 11:42am

 Krimsa, I totally agree. So what's with your name?Smile



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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 11:43am
Oh Im sorry I forgot. Krimsa is the name of a girl alpaca here. i live on a farm in the boonies of New Hampshire. Alpacas look like little llamas. They are raised for their fleece and I was laughing when I realized how similar the fleece trade is to human hair extensions lol! Like they have firsts, seconds, and thirds meaning the choice fleece would be the nicest and most expensive hehe.

her full name is Zanadu Krimsa and she is a brat and very pushy hahah


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 11:53am
 Krimsa, I love alpacas,they are so cute. You are really becoming an expert in the hair bizBig%20smile. Have you ever considered selling hair yourself? You can make lots of money especially if you chose to sell Russian/European hair. I was considering selling it myself. I've been checking out some of the various dealers in Russian/European hair, the Asian hair including Chinese and Indian, and the Spanish market also. I have some calls to put in but the ones I've talked to before have been very helpful. Maybe you should hook up with one yourself girlSmile.

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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 12:33pm
Hmm it’s an idea. I do love hair but I’m not a stylist is the thing. But also the man that I dealt with who sells the Russian hair is not a stylist either but he does know hair. So the two maybe don’t have to go together necessarily.

We should probably start another thread about that as to not totally hijack this one. I hope she does get her hair installed after all the work she’s gone through! I just wish sew ins were a little more accessible to people who want to try it. Correct me if I’m wrong but it seems so many salons if they do extensions at all, only want to do the strand by strand methods. Like sew ins are not even offered as an option. I’m guessing this has to do with money also. A sew in is far less expensive to have done than strand by strand so there is less incentive for stylits to train in it. Most would prefer to get certification in a method where its more financially viable.


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 12:41pm
yeah we shouldn't hijack someone elses stuff. Very tackyLOL


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Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by krimsa krimsa wrote:

Hmm it’s an idea. I do love hair but I’m not a stylist is the thing. But also the man that I dealt with who sells the Russian hair is not a stylist either but he does know hair. So the two maybe don’t have to go together necessarily.

We should probably start another thread about that as to not totally hijack this one. I hope she does get her hair installed after all the work she’s gone through! I just wish sew ins were a little more accessible to people who want to try it. Correct me if I’m wrong but it seems so many salons if they do extensions at all, only want to do the strand by strand methods. Like sew ins are not even offered as an option. I’m guessing this has to do with money also. A sew in is far less expensive to have done than strand by strand so there is less incentive for stylits to train in it. Most would prefer to get certification in a method where its more financially viable.
In my experience, salons who cater to mostly caucasian clients do not offer sew ins as an option. To be perfectly honest sew ins are offered primarily at black salons and installed by black stylists.. My caucasian friends who wear sew ins all go to black salons to have them done.
 
Most stylists who do braided weaves don't have any certifications to show since there are HARDLY ANY legit certification classes in this method.. Many of the good stylists have been braiding hair since they were kids, and their body of work is your proof of their "certification" in the method.. So IMO when you are talking sew-ins, forget about certifications.. It's not a valid way to ensure you have a good stylist.. Certification means you took the class, nothing more.. Lots of folks are certified in lots of things they have no real skill at.. (I see it all the time in my line of work)

Also since they don't teach you how to weave/braid in cosmetology school, many of these stylists may have been doing braids and weaves LONG before they got their licenses.. So the length of time they have been licensed may not tell the WHOLE story.. (This is the case for ALL of my weavologists BTW...)


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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 1:15pm
True. I was referring to caucasian salons in the way of certification. It seems for most all of the strand by strand methods, someone else owns that method like GL or Hairlocs as examples in which case, they need the certificate on the wall kind of thing. I could not care less about all that jazz.

As for sew ins being done primarily in salons that cater to African Americans, yes, that is the only place I could find them, especially in New England and even then it was hard. But there is also misinformation given out to clients in caucasian salons. Its happened to me now as I looked for someone that could do a weave. I was told wefts are "ghetto", you cant do that on white hair and it will look like crap. Its really awful. I was made to feel much more welcome by the African American stylist i eventually found who did not understand why i was being told that and there was no animosity in her mind towards using other methods. She just likes weaves and has been doing them on herself and family since childhood like you said. Its just annoying.


Posted By: UCFXtina
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 1:18pm
haha i don't mind aforementioned "hijacking"...threads have a way of leading into all kinds of subtopics! divavocals, i find your comment pretty insightful...i was wondering about this myself, but didn't want to ask any questions that could potentially offend anyone...in my research for a stylist who is familiar with wefts, the primary application is sew-in if youre not doing it yourself, so needless to say, i had a hard time finding anyone as its apparently not listed as a service on sites! i think im just going to go to a regular stylist and get over feeling weird for bringing a chunk of someone else's hair with me to be dyed lol


Posted By: UCFXtina
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 1:20pm
Originally posted by krimsa krimsa wrote:

True. I was referring to caucasian salons in the way of certification. It seems for most all of the strand by strand methods, someone else owns that method like GL or Hairlocs as examples in which case, they need the certificate on the wall kind of thing. I could not care less about all that jazz.

As for sew ins being done primarily in salons that cater to African Americans, yes, that is the only place I could find them, especially in New England and even then it was hard. But there is also misinformation given out to clients in caucasian salons. Its happened to me now as I looked for someone that could do a weave. I was told wefts are "ghetto", you cant do that on white hair and it will look like crap. Its really awful. I was made to feel much more welcome by the African American stylist i eventually found who did not understand why i was being told that and there was no animosity in her mind towards using other methods. She just likes weaves and has been doing them on herself and family since childhood like you said. Its just annoying.
 
i totally agree! people need to get with the now and stop associating weaves with being "ghetto" and all the negative stereotypes that accompany..


Posted By: UCFXtina
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 1:30pm
and one more thing before i set the record for most replies to my own post...just wanted to give props/recommendation...I received excellent customer service from Tina D. of EP as well as a great final product as you can see! Smile 


Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 1:43pm
Yeah that EP wefting looks good. I think we have to discuss this to some degree if its ever going to get out there. I know I always feel awkward with the question, "Can you work with caucasian hair." Im always afriad it will set someone off but it just seems like the topic needs to be broached lest you get to the salon and they dont want to touch your skimpy fine hair with a ten foot pole and I would not blame anyone. Lol.

Maybe i should just ask if you can work with crappy, thin hair lol.


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 1:45pm
she really did a good job. It is going to look so nice. Did you ever check Craigslist or Pennysaver? I think they'll have more info than the phone books.
 Krimsa and I went on a lice/rabbit tangent one time, now it's alpacasLOL. Krimsa, you need to invite me to your farm so we can just get it out of our systemsLOL


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Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 2:35pm
Originally posted by krimsa krimsa wrote:

As for sew ins being done primarily in salons that cater to African Americans, yes, that is the only place I could find them, especially in New England and even then it was hard. But there is also misinformation given out to clients in caucasian salons. Its happened to me now as I looked for someone that could do a weave. I was told wefts are "ghetto", you cant do that on white hair and it will look like crap. Its really awful. I was made to feel much more welcome by the African American stylist i eventually found who did not understand why i was being told that and there was no animosity in her mind towards using other methods. She just likes weaves and has been doing them on herself and family since childhood like you said. Its just annoying.
I agree.. there is a LOT of mis-information out there with regards to this method.. And until stylists stop referring to this method as "ghetto" and other such nonsense, the stereotypes about sew-ins will persist.. **sigh**
 
 
Originally posted by UCFXtina UCFXtina wrote:

haha i don't mind aforementioned "hijacking"...threads have a way of leading into all kinds of subtopics! divavocals, i find your comment pretty insightful...i was wondering about this myself, but didn't want to ask any questions that could potentially offend anyone...in my research for a stylist who is familiar with wefts, the primary application is sew-in if youre not doing it yourself, so needless to say, i had a hard time finding anyone as its apparently not listed as a service on sites! i think im just going to go to a regular stylist and get over feeling weird for bringing a chunk of someone else's hair with me to be dyed lol
Not offensive at all.. It is a fact that this method started with black stylists, and remains the most popular method of getting extensions amongst black women.. Don't worry about offending your stylist.. It's okay to let him/her know you are caucasian. Not all black stylists are comfortable working with caucasian hair.. You'd want to know that upfront..


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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 3:08pm
Thats good to know Diva. Like i said, I do always feel nervous about asking that question. Im usually just out with it though as it seems important and not a minor point. I mean hair is hair to some degree but different ethnic backgrounds have different types of hair and I dont want to put someone in the position of having to shoo me out of the salon or make them work with something they are uncomfortable with.


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 3:11pm
yeah, just ask most don't care what race you are hair is hair. There may be  few nuts out there but very few stylists will reject you. I live in the D.C. metro area and girls here don't care. We boldly go into any salon that we want to. White girls to black stylists, black girls to white stylists, everybody to the Dominican salonsLOL. We just want to look cute and they want to be the ones to do it.

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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 3:21pm
Yeah I have NEVER had a problem asking that question of an African American stylist or salon. However, white salons, can sometimes be weird. Like asking them about sew ins always seemed to be met with a haughty "why" attitude. Im not saying every salon though and im guessing it really depends on area. Where I am here, not so good.

MsHoney you can come see the alpaca and rabbits anytime, lol. They are really cool animals. people are sometimes afraid of them because they know llamas spit. Alpaca will spit but they tend to be MUCH friendlier and you would really have to push them to make them go that far. Most of the time they will give you a warning lol.


Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 4:00pm
Camels spit too. Well at least they let you know what they think of youLOL. See here we go againLOL.
 Once more white stylist see the market for sew-in they be more willing to learn the technique. It'll just take more white girls to find out about it. If they can chose between a $700 and up strand by strand technique or a $25 per weft sew-in which do you think they'll pick. I do my own fusion, but I tell you, as much as I love it I was not going to be dishing out that amount of dough four times a year. There were definitely some sew-ins in my futureLOL.


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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 17 2007 at 4:06pm
I agree with you there. i was afraid to bring it up because i was concerned it would start huge arguments but I think its true. The reality of it is that as soon as more white clientelle kind of catch on to sew ins and learn thats its affordable and the bomb, more and more will opt for it and the more that do, the higher the price for it will go. I think this is just a harsh, financial reality.

People also mix and match correct? Like you can have a sew in but also using a few microlink or glue and microlinks or something along those lines right?



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