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New Wave Battle Type Concept: Judging

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Topic: New Wave Battle Type Concept: Judging
Posted By: ChristianTN8IS
Subject: New Wave Battle Type Concept: Judging
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 10:01pm
In many competitions judges are selected and there is a rubric to go by for judging.  In the past judging of wave battles has been biased I think on varying circomestances.

I think waves should be judged Boxing Round style, each category being a round. 
You could do public scoring, or do a private battle where 3 360 vets are chosen as the designated judges.  After viewing all photos, they would release the scores judges as such. 

For example
 
Waver 1 vs. 2

Connection:Waver 1 wins 10-8
Overall Visibility:Waver 1 wins 10-9
Top: Tie 10-10
Left: Waver 2 wins 10-8
Right Waver 2 wins 10-9
Back: Waver 1 wins 10-8
Crown: Waver 2 wins 10-9

10-9 is they won but it was close, 10-8 is they pretty much obviously won, and 10-7 would just be like wow one guy has a crazy spinnin side and the other guy got no waves there.
lol if we know they kitted dq... jp but

I think this could make things more interesting, and even more fair.  Its just an idea tho guys, so dont juz hate n diss the idea


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Posted By: mrclean1992
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 10:07pm
wow.....lol.check my new avi........sweet huh

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Posted By: S.C. King
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 10:30pm
great idea i wonder what the others think of this??? i Like it  and it haz my votes and i say only votes that should be calculated (counted iz those who are in the 360 vet club... or can get in dat room cause we ware fair,,,

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Posted By: Willie SKRILLA
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 10:53pm
No. I can't role with it. I've never been witness to anything like this and I feel you guys are just reaching with this.


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Posted By: Gristyle
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 11:15pm
Sounds interest but that would cut back on taking pics on angles lol it could be good but we should have a vote a couple days before a battle so we can pic 3 judges to judge this battle

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Posted By: Lil D.C.
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 3:04am

Gristyle is right about the angles.I need the angles.



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Posted By: SupaFresh208
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 3:35am
Originally posted by ChristianTN8IS ChristianTN8IS wrote:

In many competitions judges are selected and there is a rubric to go by for judging.  In the past judging of wave battles has been biased I think on varying circomestances.

 
Interesting concept but whose to say that when you get these selected judges that they won't be biased. It can be picked at random and you have 3 judges who are supposed to vote. Two of those judges might vote on whose better and one might vote on who they favor more....thats just one scenario of many..


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Posted By: Sleepy B
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 4:16am
I like da idea, but there's really no way 2 stop people 4 votin 4 who dey wanna vote 4 whether dey deserve da vote or not. Its just da way it is. nobody here is gettin paid 2 do da right thing so everyone isnt gonna do it. I'm sure that there's members here who actually vote based on waves and not other things. 4 dis 2 work everyone would have 2 agree on the 3 judges dat can b trusted da most 2 b completely fair. Maybe set up a poll of a few vets and pick 3 out of da list. There's 2 many vets 2 set up a poll wit all of em bcuz there wont b enough votes and there would b alot of ties bcuz of da high number. So maybe everyone can nominate 5 or 6 vets and da ones wit da most nominations can b placed in da poll.

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 5:43am
Sounds like a good idea , Sleepy if you set up the pols make sure that the people nominated to judge a battle are impartial and shows no favoritism towards anybody, it has to be straight down the middle if I feel like a battle isn't getting called down the middle like if I see a call blatantly go against the opponent then the judge will be replaced with someone who stands to gain nothing from the victor of the battle.  I like the idea though it would definitely set us apart from the other sites.

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Posted By: Sleepy B
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 6:01am

I got it J-Kid. Any Nominations people?



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Posted By: S.C. King
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 6:26am
he well put up all the 360 vets in the poll that are ACTIVE!!!! i wanna use this system un my battle on monday....

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Posted By: Sleepy B
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 6:33am
there's 2 many vets that r active 2 put em all in a poll.

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 6:35am
Just randomly nominate people not every Vet can be in it we can switch judging duties monthly.

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:45am
Ok no responses well I nominate Wave Connection he knows what he knows his schit. While I am here I will also nominate Davo because he stands to gain nothing at all from this and also knows his schit.

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Posted By: stormy_seas
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:51am
^... uh, dub c is the most biased vet here
he said my waves were crap because of my 1 criss cross
you know if he ever disputed w/ someone he would vote against them
and overly criticize
 
not hatin, but i hope you can see that


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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:52am
Originally posted by Gristyle Gristyle wrote:

Sounds interest but that would cut back on taking pics on angles lol it could be good but we should have a vote a couple days before a battle so we can pic 3 judges to judge this battle
 
If we go through with this then 3 judges will have to keep judging duties for a month before someone else gets voted in , just for consistency and then after one person has judged about 7-10 battles I will hold a vote to see if the person should be a permanant judge, and nobody's judging regardless of whoever gets nominated won't be biased otherwise they face the wrath of Allar "da" god Angry.


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Posted By: ChristianTN8IS
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 9:05am
Originally posted by Gristyle Gristyle wrote:

Sounds interest but that would cut back on taking pics on angles lol it could be good but we should have a vote a couple days before a battle so we can pic 3 judges to judge this battle


The angle pics should be included to help your connection score. 
Also, I just picked what I thought would be the best round scores, if you guys have any other ideas for ways to rate, feel free to share because they aren't set in stone yet.

Maybe we can add cleanness as a category?  Like quality of the edgeups?  Hmm

I would have said depth, but its kind of unfair as depth is undeniably hugely factored by texture.  and + somebody wolfin week 10 is gonna beat somebody with a 1.5WTG for depth too.


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Posted By: Gristyle
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 1:38pm

I like your idea Christian. Maybe we can uniformity of hair, mean all hair laid down nice and neat



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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 1:43pm
Originally posted by stormy_seas stormy_seas wrote:

^... uh, dub c is the most biased vet here
he said my waves were crap because of my 1 criss cross
you know if he ever disputed w/ someone he would vote against them
and overly criticize
 
not hatin, but i hope you can see that
 
I can see you, Skrilla, and Don Twist seem to have disputes with Dub-C if you guys are battling someone , then someone else will take his place if you don't think it would be impartial.


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Posted By: Gristyle
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 1:49pm
we should nominate 4 judges incase somebody cannot make it

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 1:51pm
Somebody else has to nominate man I done nominated 2 people already I can't nominate everybody somebody else has to step their ass up to the plate!

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Posted By: Gristyle
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 2:10pm
I nominate lil pit

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Posted By: 25cent
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 2:45pm
so are ya saying let four vets decide whose waves are better

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Posted By: stormy_seas
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 3:26pm
i nominate 3 6 oh

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 3:41pm
Ok we have Three-Six-Oh
 
@ 25 - nope just 3 there will be the categories that Christian has listed and the Vets will individually do their scores and then they will have 2 days to carefully analyze every detail and every wave and then render their verdict and show their "scorecards".


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Posted By: 25cent
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 3:45pm
oh I see

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Posted By: S.C. King
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 3:49pm
im up 2 be a judge if yall are cool with it???

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 3:55pm
Sure but I will be rotating judges monthly though so that everybody gets experience under their belt, now if a Vet who happens to be a judge is battling judging duties will obviously be turned over to somebody else (I know somebody was probably gonna ask, so I answered).

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Posted By: 25cent
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 3:58pm
Originally posted by jamaicakid85 jamaicakid85 wrote:

Sure but I will be rotating judges monthly though so that everybody gets experience under their belt, now if a Vet who happens to be a judge is battling judging duties will obviously be turned over to somebody else (I know somebody was probably gonna ask, so I answered).


good I was just about to ask LOL


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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 4:02pm
See I told you lol!!!!

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Posted By: Willie SKRILLA
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 4:32pm
Now maybe its just me but it seems like you guys are making this too complicated. Can I request that my battles if any be done the old fashioned way barring my opponents opinion.

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Posted By: King Cash
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 6:52pm
Originally posted by S.C. King S.C. King wrote:

im up 2 be a judge if yall are cool with it???
 
If ya'll need someone else, i'm down. Don't gotta worry about me being biased because i don't like any of you bastards. LOL


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Posted By: 25cent
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 7:00pm
Lmao

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 7:08pm
Originally posted by King Cash King Cash wrote:

Originally posted by S.C. King S.C. King wrote:

im up 2 be a judge if yall are cool with it???
 
If ya'll need someone else, i'm down. Don't gotta worry about me being biased because i don't like any of you bastards. LOL
 
Lol everybody will get a crack at being judge and I don't worry Cash we don't like yo ass either lol.
 
@ Skrilla- it won't be complicated after the first battle if you are skeptical about it then you can do yours old school.
 
Me I think I would like the judging more because it won't be a popularity contest each aspect of a waver's waves will be analyzed and scored so the only person who would win is the person who is supposed to win.


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Posted By: King Cash
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 7:19pm
I gotta agree

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Posted By: 25cent
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 7:28pm
me too I don't mind , but you must so all sides for the battle right

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Posted By: Gristyle
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by 25cent 25cent wrote:

so are ya saying let four vets decide whose waves are better
no elect 4, but have 3 judge and have 1  for a bck up. with 4 judges there could be a tie


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Posted By: Gristyle
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 7:45pm
I'm up for the judge as well. Plus I'm not bias I just take bribes

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 7:59pm
Hell nah can't be 4 judges otherwise there wont be no clear cut winner it has to be 3 G-money everybody can't be winners. Well if you look at the scorecards and its close then it can be close but if 2 judges are for one person and 2 judges are in favor of the other person what does that = you do the math.

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by Gristyle Gristyle wrote:

Originally posted by 25cent 25cent wrote:

so are ya saying let four vets decide whose waves are better
no elect 4, but have 3 judge and have 1  for a bck up. with 4 judges there could be a tie
 
LOL Thats the gayest schit I ever heard.


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Posted By: Gristyle
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:05pm
Originally posted by jamaicakid85 jamaicakid85 wrote:

Originally posted by Gristyle Gristyle wrote:

Originally posted by 25cent 25cent wrote:

so are ya saying let four vets decide whose waves are better
no elect 4, but have 3 judge and have 1  for a bck up. with 4 judges there could be a tie
 
LOL Thats the gayest schit I ever heard.
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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:10pm
Hell nah, 3 judges ,thats it, no draws, straight winner Bottomline!!!

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Posted By: Gristyle
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:15pm
No bottomline 3 judges with the final say

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:18pm
Hell nah man stop makin things more complicated than they need to be this ain't rocket science 3 judges is all thats needed, and ain't no final say except for the final result.

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Posted By: 25cent
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:22pm
chill out guysAngryarms

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:29pm
Nah man G-money actin like this is technical science it's just judging waves he's just nitpicking at this point *we need 4 judges*, after that it's gon be *we need 5 judges, or 6*, nah son we ridin wit 3 , thats adequate enough, thats why people don't be understandin what the hell be goin on tryin be too technical.

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Posted By: Sleepy B
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:36pm
Damn I thought we woulda had a million nominees by now. Oh well, I nominate myself Big%20smile

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Posted By: 25cent
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:40pm
how are you guys gonna decide the nominees;whoever name get said the most?

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:41pm
Aight so thats 7 so far Dub-C, Davo, Three-Six-Oh, King Cash,  S.C. King, Sleepy, and G-Money.

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Posted By: 25cent
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:42pm
hmmmmm who is going to choose the first three guys for the job

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Posted By: Sleepy B
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 8:56pm
Everyone is. I'll set up a poll and everyone votes on it. Should i set it up now? Actually, J-kid u wanna set it up? I dont exactly feel like doin anything right now. I just got back from my game like a hour and a half ago and i'm tired as f**k.

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 9:44pm
Ok I'll take care of it.

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Posted By: Gristyle
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 11:19pm
Originally posted by jamaicakid85 jamaicakid85 wrote:

Nah man G-money actin like this is technical science it's just judging waves he's just nitpicking at this point *we need 4 judges*, after that it's gon be *we need 5 judges, or 6*, nah son we ridin wit 3 , thats adequate enough, thats why people don't be understandin what the hell be goin on tryin be too technical.
lol J did you see what I did??? All I did was rewrote what you said earlier lol


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Posted By: ChristianTN8IS
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 12:10am
You can win by split decision or unanimous decision. 
Just like boxing...
Split - 2 judges say one person won, while a 3rd says the other won
Unanimous - all agree 1 person won (scores can be different)

or there is the rare possibility of a draw....

This judging system will certainly be controversial every battle unless its an obvious blowout, but thats just like any boxing match too..

I dunno, I think this system is a lot more interesting, and can even make it "strategic" and interesting based on what ur expecting out of ur opponent.

like I mean after seein those pictures of cedclark, his only potential weakness seems like his crown, I think his crown is beatable, somebody could try and beat it 10-8, and just TRY to survive the other areas even though I doubt its possible


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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 5:55am
Originally posted by ChristianTN8IS ChristianTN8IS wrote:

You can win by split decision or unanimous decision. 
Just like boxing...
Split - 2 judges say one person won, while a 3rd says the other won
Unanimous - all agree 1 person won (scores can be different)

or there is the rare possibility of a draw....

This judging system will certainly be controversial every battle unless its an obvious blowout, but thats just like any boxing match too..

I dunno, I think this system is a lot more interesting, and can even make it "strategic" and interesting based on what ur expecting out of ur opponent.

like I mean after seein those pictures of cedclark, his only potential weakness seems like his crown, I think his crown is beatable, somebody could try and beat it 10-8, and just TRY to survive the other areas even though I doubt its possible
 
Lol like 2 months ago somebody asked me what can Ced work on, and I said that his crown is decent but it could be better and everybody thought I was high off crack or something I thought I was the only person that noticed this, but regardless Ced's waves are still damn near flawless though.
 
@ Gristyle - you just love pushin my buttons huh , one day when I'm bored I will figure out where your installation is in Vermont and come smack that kuffi off your head lol.


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Posted By: ChristianTN8IS
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 10:58am
wow, people actually grilled u for that?  Like I think Chrisdogg's crown got Ceds actually

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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 5:51pm
@ Christian- lookin at C-Dog's crown he has just about everybody hands down, it is easier for straighter haired people to do the crown thing because when they brush the crown their hair doesn't get dragged around as much I've seen this first hand, ain't nobody gonna have a better crown than C-Dog unless you get another straighter haired niccarachi, but thats the benefit of having straight hair. BUT there are a few exceptions like Ballastatus but I can guarantee you that he had to put in 3x the amount of work to wave his crown up than C-Dog. Thats just my own personal theory though.
 
 


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