PICTURES How do I get the warm colors out?
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Topic: PICTURES How do I get the warm colors out?
Posted By: lovemykids143
Subject: PICTURES How do I get the warm colors out?
Date Posted: November 09 2007 at 9:12pm
 I have naturally medium to dark brown hair, and have colored it redish many many times, but decided to try a lighter color this time. I have let it grow natural for about a year now, so it is a fresh start. I tried yesterday to use a dark blonde permanent color, but it barely lightened it at all. So today, I tried ultra light ash blonde (also permanent). It lightened it a bit more, but it is brassy. I used the ash to be sure I wouldn't get any warm tones, and have no idea what I did wrong. PLEASE HELP!!! I am using Aussie 3 Minute Miracle like crazy hoping to be conditioned enough to fix this very soon. But I still don't know what to do about it! I would love to be a medium blonde.  Not me, but the closest I can come to my natural hair color.  This is what it looks like now. This is what it looks like inside. I have a Sally Beauty nearby, so if you know what I should buy, I can be there within minutes!! Thank you in advance for any help!!! |
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Posted By: PerfectBrunette
Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 6:25pm
| Your hair was too dark to be using so light of a dye on it without bleaching it first. Peroxide will only lighten hair two levels. What you are seeing is your underlying pigment. Going blonde from medium brown is best left to the professionals because it is so tricky to get it just right. I would recommend going to the salon. If you must do it at home, I would use a dark ash blonde with a blue base and mix it with a dark blonde with a neutral base to cancel out the oranges. Try different combinations of the two and do strand tests to see how much of the blue base you will need to get a nice neutral blonde color. Don't skip the strand test. Then I would get light blonde higlights put in by a professional salon. The dark blonde/light blonde will loook like medium blonde but more natural and with dimension. |
Posted By: julesyjul88
Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 11:07pm
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Perfectbrunette is right. Color cant lift color. If your hair was pretty dark,you'd have to bleach a little first and THEN color.
From the looks of the orangish/red picture you say your haircolor is now,you'd probably have to bleach for about a half hour (maybe longer depending on how fast your hair lightens) THEN use a blonde color overtop.
What color blonde are you going for? Did you want a dark blonde,or was that just something you tried in hopes of lightening it?
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Posted By: Rebekah
Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 11:13pm
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Colorfix first before you bleach or the previous dye just might get stuck in your hair...Bleach to the yellow stage and then you might get a light blonde color with the violet toner. Good luck and I hope this helps.
Rebekah
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Posted By: PerfectBrunette
Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 11:18pm
| I agree with Rebekah concerning the yellow stage and then a violet based blonde hair color applied afterwards. If you let it get white, it will damage your hair. Alternatively, you could go dark blonde and get highlights put in later which is easier overall on your hair than bleaching it. I sympathize with the orange hair. I've had the same problem before as well as countless others. Don't worry about it though. It is definitely fixable. |
Posted By: lovemykids143
Date Posted: November 11 2007 at 5:21pm
Thank you all for the advice. I am getting a color corrector from Sally's tomorrow to see if it helps with the orange. Also, I think I may go a bit darker blonde so not to have to bleach. That's one thing I will not do. Here's a picture that matches the hair I want. If you have any advice on how to get to that color without a solon or bleach, please let me now. It is very appreciated. Oh and I guess the other thing I will need to know is how to do my roots once I do get that color. I don't thing turning them orange and then correcting it is the best way to go.  Again, thank you very much!!!! |
Posted By: PerfectBrunette
Date Posted: November 11 2007 at 5:47pm
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I still think you should go to a salon for this. Is your hair that long? You are risking a lot of damage if it is. Also, I noticed that this hair color is multidimensional. If you just go medium blonde (after bleaching to get the orangey tones out first), it won't look as natural as this model's hair. I think you can achieve this multi-dimensional effect if you do a dark blonde (violet to violet blue base) over what you already have and get a lot of highlights put in at a salon. In fact, a partial is good....(you wouldn't have to do the whole head) and it would look more natural since the sun only lightens the hair on top anyways for natural blondes. Just be sure that the stylist who does the highlights is one you trust and make sure to bring your picture. Keep in mind that staying blonde is very high maintenance. You'll need a root touch up every 3-4 weeks and highlights refreshed every 6-8 weeks. None of this is easy to do at home. You could do the dark blonde color at home though and get the highlights put in later. (Without bleaching, you will have to go darker in color to get enough of the opposite pigment in there to cancel out the orange tones) There's always at-home frost and tip highlighting kits but if you're going to do this, spend some time learning techniques as this can easily be messed up. There are some techniques in Lori-Goddard Clark's hair color mix book for doing your own highlights but they don't seem easy to master. What I would really do if I were you is accept my natural color and dye it back. Then get a lot of highlights put in to give it a really blonde look - not just one color but two or three all lighter than your natural tone but different shades. That would be much easier to maintain. You'd only have to go in for touch ups every 6-8 weeks and just for highlights not the roots. Whatever you decide to do, keep us posted. |
Posted By: lovemykids143
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 8:37am
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Thank you, but the reason I want to go blonde is partly for my husband and mostly because I HATE having dark hair. (and to answer you question, my hair is very long) What if I were to dye to a golden brown and then get lots of blonde highlights? How would that look? I am so disappointed that this is not working the way I wanted it to. I have seen a few people with lighter brown hair get blonde highlights and I think I would be ok with that as an alternative. |
Posted By: lovemykids143
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 8:41am
And to add, I will make sure I post pictures of the new hair, no matter what the outcome, for all to see. I searched the web and this forum for help before I posted and did not find this topic, so I hope your advice help someone BEFORE they dye their hair orange!! Thank you all so much for walking me through this. I will be conditioning for one more day before I do anything else, so I'll let you know what I decide before I do it and give you pictures after. Also, please let me know asap about the golden brown with blonde highlights so I can add that to my options. Thank you!!! |
Posted By: PerfectBrunette
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 12:36pm
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Hi, I think golden brown with blonde highlights is a pretty look too. (I am guessing you have warm skin tones). You will still have lot of maintenance though. To get the golden brown may be tricky, You want to cancel out the red tones of the orange but not the yellow, suggesting a green base. You only want enough to cancel out the red though, which is tricky. You don't want to end up with green hair! I would do a few strand tests and try mixing a neutral light brown with varying proportions of a dark blonde with a blue gold base. If your hair is very porous or damaged, you may need to use a protein filler first before going darker. Also, since you are going darker, the less lift the better (more lifting means more warm tones will come out). You could use a ten volume developer or you could use a demi instead of a permanent color, which deposits color with less lift and less hair shaft penetration. Deep conditioning should also be helpful. As you can see, you have a lot of options. Whatever you decide to do, the strand test is key for getting the exact color you want. |
Posted By: julesyjul88
Date Posted: November 13 2007 at 1:35am
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You dont want to bleach...well,this HAS happend to me before.I didnt want to bleach either.My hair was bright,bright orange! After calling the hair color company,I was told that using either medium ash or dark ash blonde would fix the orange.
It did in fact,although it was not as light I would have liked. It did turn out more of a lightish brown with some blonde highlights.
Or you could always color light brown and put in some blonde highlights.
I hope it works out for you!
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Posted By: lovemykids143
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 1:18pm
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UPDATE So it is now a little over a month. After the orange happened, I went to sally and was given an ash blonde with a blue base that did next to nothing to my hair. They gave me a refund after I returned the next day having done exactly as they explained. I was told by a professional that my hair was not orange from the dye, that it was in fact, my underlying color. Only lightening it made it appear more orange then it should have. I am now sitting with a light brown color in my hair hoping to relieve some of the orange. I am planning on highlighting in 2 days (yes Christmas Eve, cross your fingers for me) and will post another update after with pics. Thank you all for your help. I hope it works out this time!!!!  |
Posted By: PerfectBrunette
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 1:22pm
| Going with a darker color should help. What was the base and level of the new color? Anyways, I wish you the best of luck! |
Posted By: lovemykids143
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 1:33pm
| well unfortunately I can't trust sally after the last mess up so I am sticking with what I know and going back to the box. Same color I always use when I'm done with the change. It is somewhat close to my natural color and has never failed me. It is Revlon Color Silk Light Brown |
Posted By: PerfectBrunette
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 2:05pm
| Sounds like a good choice. Going with a neutral shade that you trust is a good idea. I hope you keep us posted on how it turns out. |
Posted By: lovemykids143
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 4:44pm
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So, my hair is no longer orange, although I'm still not happy with the color. It is supposed to be light brown, but I think I left it on too long or something because it is a little darker. Still not bad, but still not blonde. I suppose I can wait until it starts to fade out before I highlight, so the brown will be lighter. But for anyone who ends up with orange hair from going too light too fast, going back will get rid of the orange. All better now. Next time I know to go blonde/blue to start and highlight from there. Thank you all again. You were the greatest of help! |
Posted By: PerfectBrunette
Date Posted: December 22 2007 at 5:30pm
| Glad to hear it turned out! Don't worry that it is a little dark. If you leave a deep conditioner in your hair for 20 minutes or do a hot oil treatment, that will help fade the color quicker. I bet it will look really beautiful with highlights. |