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Topic: shampoo ingredients
Posted By: Brandi
Subject: shampoo ingredients
Date Posted: September 06 2002 at 4:41am


Can everyone tell me all the shampoo ingredients that you MUST stay away from? Especially if you hair is long.

thanks.......



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Posted By: Lyris
Date Posted: September 06 2002 at 7:28pm
If your hair is dry, chemically processed or frizzy, stay away from sodium lauryl sulfate, sTEA-lauryl/laureth sulfate, sulfur and mica (if your hair is dyed), ammonium lauryl/laureth sulfate and ammonium xylosulfonate. I have a list in my research which is at my office (I`m at home) which includes several more potentially drying shampoo detergents, but these are the most commonly used ingredients. Sodium laureth sulfate is one of the gentlest cleansing agents found in shampoos from Loreal Vive to Redken, so I recommend looking for that and avoiding the others if you are prone to dry hair. Hope this helps! :-)

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Posted By: SnowWhite
Date Posted: September 06 2002 at 9:42pm
If you have a place where you can get natural foods, soaps, etc. they might have some shampoos with natural ingredients. These would be the best on your hair. Check out this site sometime too...It`s for people with long hair and those that are growing it long. http://www.angelfire.com/empire/long_hair_community/home.html - http://www.angelfire.com/empire/long_hair_community/home.html

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Posted By: sweetpea
Date Posted: September 09 2002 at 6:56pm
Hi,

I recently visited a web site called Mastey.com and they had a list of ingredients you should avoid in hair care and skincare products. This website also sells a line of shampoos, conditioners, and styling products that supposedly does not contain any of these ingredients. I was thinking about trying some products from this line myself. The ingredients that you should avoid are

1. Harsh Cleansers like: Sodium Lauryl Sulfate
Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate
DEA (DEA Lauryl Sulfate)
Sodium Laureth Sulfate
Ammonium Laureth Sulfate
Alpha Olefin Sulfonate

2. Oils
Stop switching shampoos
3. Dyes
4. Propylene Glycol
5. Glycerin and glycerin type derivatives
6. Human Hair Keratin Protein (HHKP)
7. Animal Protein, Collagen Protein, Animal by- Products


Later

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Posted By: Lyris
Date Posted: September 09 2002 at 7:10pm
Hi Sweetpea. I know you`re trying to help, but something you should know about the list you got. When I first started my research a year ago I ran across that same site. Unfortunately, there are some definite errors on Mastey`s part, and the reason is clear: Mastey makes products without these ingredients. So obviously they would want the "chemical sounding" additives to sound harsh and dangerous so people will buy their products. When a biased source gives out scientific-appearing information, the result is many mislead consumers. Interestingly enough, Mastey.com does not list any of the ingredients in their products. So how on earth is a consumer to know their products are genuinely better? If you know how to read ingredient lists, that`s the first thing to look for when determining effectiveness--yet there are none to be found.

I highly suggest the book Don`t Go Shopping for Haircare Products Without Me, which is an eye-opening resource with the straight, research-proven facts on hair care. There you will find that sodium lauryl sulfate is indeed harsh, but sodium laureth sulfate is not. Collagen, various proteins from any sournce, glycerin and propylene glycol are also very good conditioning agents--contrary to what Mastey says. The truth is, although natural sounds better, that doesn`t necessarily mean non-synthetic ingredients are better for your hair. Aloe has no effect on hair, yet cyclomethicone will make it shiny and soft. Vitamins do nothing for dead hair cells (which is all hair is) yet the chemical sounding quaternium-18 will smooth the hair strands and make it easier to comb. People confuse "non-natural" with dangerous. And the truth is, some of the most "natural" things in this world can really hurt you. There are poisonous mushrooms, dangerous herbal supplements such as kava kava and naturally occuring gases that would kill you with one breath. Just because something is synthetic doesn`t make it worse than natural ingredients. Think about all the "unnatural" things from which we`ve benefitted: sunscreen, flame-resistant clothing, fortified foods, etc.

So my advice: always remember to consider the source. Hope this helps! :-)

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Posted By: Brandi
Date Posted: September 10 2002 at 8:33am
Hi,
I have a shampoo that`s supposed to stop hair loss. There are some strange ingredients I never heard of before. Have you heard of any of these?

1. cocamidopropyl betain
2. cocamide dea
3.sodium chloride
4.propylene glycol
5.triticum
6.vulgare
7.glycol distearate
8. polyquaterium 80
9. methyldibromo
10.glutaronitrile
11.phenoxyethanol


thank,, you,, :):):)

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Posted By: Lyris
Date Posted: September 10 2002 at 9:24am
Hi Brandi! Some answers:

1. Cocamidopropyl betaine is a very mild cleanser used in shampoos for its conditioning properties. It is taken from coconut fatty acids, as it most things starting with "coca." This cleanser is typically used in conjunction with a somewhat stronger one such as sodium laureth sulfate because it is so gentle.

2. Cocamide DEA builds lather and thickens shampoo, also from coconut. What many people don`t realize is that the amount of lather a shampoo produces is totally unrelated to its cleaning abilities. This agent builds lather simply because consumers want foam to make it feel like they`re getting their hair clean, but in reality it is the cleansers listed in #1 that will clean your hair, not the lather-builder.

3. Sodium chloride is table salt. It thickens products.

4. Propylene glycol is, believe it or not, anti-freeze. However, research has shown it to be safe and an effective hair conditioner. It is a slip agent, meaning it makes hair easy to detangle and comb.

5. Triticum Vulgare is wheat derivative designed to moisturize hair.

7. Glycol distearate makes shampoo perlescent.

8. Polyquaternium-80 is a conditioning agent that smoothes the hair cuticle.

9. Methyldibromo glutaronitrile sometimes causes allergic reactions, though not in everyone. It is an antimicrobial agent.

10. phenoxyethanol is an anti-fungicidal ingredient.

Hope that helps!





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Posted By: sweetpea
Date Posted: September 10 2002 at 10:27am
Well Lyrus,

Just to let you know I am allergic to quite a few of the ingredients that I listed from the Mastey.com website so that is how I know that they may be harsh to certain individuals. Have a nice day.

Sweetpea

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Posted By: Lyris
Date Posted: September 10 2002 at 11:17am
I`m sorry to hear that. People have reactions to all sorts of things, both natural and non-chemical, and that doesn`t automatically make something dangerous or harmful to most. Lemongrass is a commonly used "natural" ingredient and it can give people fits. Sorry to hear some of the standard stuff didn`t work for you. Just trying to share what I know so please don`t take offense :-)

btw it`s Lyris. Thanks!

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Look for beauty, and you will find no intelligence. Look for intelligence and you will find both.Proud member of the Cult of All Soft