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Topic: Redken Vertical hair damage
Posted By: skem
Subject: Redken Vertical hair damage
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 12:59am
I had my hair chemically straightned in September 2007 with Redken Vertical and I obtained burns to my scalp, bald spots, severe hair loss and thin dry hair. I still suffer from 70% thinner hair than what it was before I had it straightned and my hair is so dry, brittle and patchy. I noticed that a lot of you have posted complaints about Redken Vertical and I was wondering if anyone knows of any law suits or class action suits involving this stuff. Also does anyone know what the ingriedients were in it and was it discontinued or banned and when did this happen. would appreciate any help in this matter as I am currently seeking legal advice.



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Posted By: S Tcherkezian
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 5:12am

I no longer post or give advice on other Forums except my Forum - Steve’s TR Forum. Please redirect and post your questions and concerns to Steve’s TR Forum and I will be happy to help answer your question.

Here’s a link to my Website: http://www.verticalsinhair.com/ - http://www.verticalsinhair.com

Steve’s TR Forum: http://www.verticalsinhair.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl - http://www.verticalsinhair.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl

PS- You need to register to able to post on Steve’s TR Forum. –Steve Tcherkezian

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Steve Tcherkezian
Brazilian & Japanese Hair Straightening - REAL Specialist
e-mail: steve@VerticalsInHair.com
Website: www.VerticalsInHair.com
Toronto Canada
Steve Direct: 416 669 9118


Posted By: jackpaul
Date Posted: June 12 2008 at 6:38am
I hope you are the person ( Lisa) that emailed me about a week ago I tried to email you back but the mail keeps bouncing back. I would love to chat with you about the worst  experience of me life so far ( loosing me hair)
email me again I will send you my #


Posted By: S Tcherkezian
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 5:42pm

I have many Lisa’s in my life, so I don’t know which Lisa you are referring about. As I said in my previous post, I do not post on other Forums, except my Forum (Steve’s TR Forum), but I will make an exception.

First, I am very sorry to hear about your ordeal.  Second, Redken is a reputable company and there is nothing wrong with Redken’s Vertical Curl Reducer.  So before you knock the product down, go back to the stylist and show them what had happened.

Permanent hair straightening is NOT about leap of faith or a reputable salon or a stylist who is very nice. Allowing a bunch of well-intentioned hairdressers to do hair straightening will eventually cause irreversible damage to the hair and follicle. The stylist's skill and experience and understanding the science of permanent hair straightening, is of utmost importance.  
 
Cosmetic procedures such as Vertical of Redken, do not damage the hair follicle within the scalp, and so do not cause hair loss. Only a serious chemical burn to the skin of the scalp that destroys the follicle cells can do so. Burns like this can follow indiscriminate over-use of permanent hair straightening solutions, and therefore these solutions must be handled carefully at all times. But take an enthusiastic amateur embarking on bleaching and doing a hair straightening without any basic knowledge or experience, and combine this with a hair dryer used on its hottest setting: you have a recipe for disaster.  

FYI: The reactive chemical in Vertical of Redken is thioglycolate or Ammonium thioglycolate. Thioglycolic acid is strong and irritating to the skin and is not used in waving and hair straightening solutions as an acid, but as a salt or derivative. For example, ammonium thioglycolate, a salt, is used in alkaline permanent waving, COLD straightening and TR products. In this case, the thioglycolic acid has been neutralized with ammonia. Over the 60 years, thioglycolate had been and still is the preferred choice.

Thioglycolate is used to straighten as well as curl hair. The same chemical reaction that put curl in hair during the permanent wave procedure, takes curl out of hair in chemical relaxing. At this point a reverse action occurs, instead of hair reforming to the shape of the permanent rod, a smoothing or pressing action is applied. This causes the entire protein structure to relax and be held in the new straighter formation. Thioglycolate relaxer is used primarily on hair which has a very soft curl and soft wave pattern. Generally, it is not effective on African hair type, overly curly, excessively kinky, wiry hair.

PS- I will be on vacation June 17 to July 2nd, inclusive. -Steve



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Steve Tcherkezian
Brazilian & Japanese Hair Straightening - REAL Specialist
e-mail: steve@VerticalsInHair.com
Website: www.VerticalsInHair.com
Toronto Canada
Steve Direct: 416 669 9118


Posted By: cynthiatrr
Date Posted: September 22 2008 at 3:43pm
Hi!

I am a lawyer in Puerto Rico a commonwealth of the US. I filed a judicial complaint against L'Oreal, here in PR because i also received damages from the aplication of Vertical in 2004 when it was new. The hairstylist combined the neutralizer with another of REDKEN's product called shades eq.

My theory of product liability is based on warning insufficiency and overpromotion. The product has not been recall but L'oreal informed us that is no longer going to be manufactured under Vertical's name suposselly because of bad market perception of the name. "Yes of course".

Please seek legal advise and let me know more details and if i can help you or your legal councel let me know. Maybe we can move our case to the federal court.          
My e-mail is: cynthiatrr@aol.com
Good luck




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