permanent vs demi permanent
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Printed Date: July 29 2025 at 1:45pm
Topic: permanent vs demi permanent
Posted By: blondish
Subject: permanent vs demi permanent
Date Posted: September 28 2008 at 10:15pm
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Hello! Are Clairol's Second Nature colors permanent or demi permanent? What about the Wella 050 drabber? I used a medium ash blonde to try to cover up orange tones in my colored light blonde hair. I also added some of that Wella 050 Light Drabber I had read about on this site. I used each of these in equal parts and I mixed them with the 20 volume Clairol Cream Developer to equal the amount of the combination of the 2 colors. After the first wash, I was orangish again. Not quite as orange as I had been, but still orangish. (A light golden orange I guess.) I'm trying to get to a medium ash blonde.
Anyway, I wasn't sure whether it was the drabber or the Second Nature that had washed out. Then I read on the Wella that it should be used as: 1 part Wella to 2 parts 20 volume developer. But the Second Nature uses: 1 part color to 1 part developer.
Does using 2 parts 20 volume developer equal a 40 volume developer (as far as damage). And would using 2 parts developer (like on the Wella drabber directions) mess up the Clairol? Maybe the fact that I used only one part developer with the Wella simply didn't let it deposit enough color on the hair. So instead of the Second Nature, should I go with a Wella permanent color with the drabber so that the developer amount is right for both kinds of color? Is a regular permanent color a "deposit color?" I want the color to stay in the hair permanently even if I get it darker than it is, but I'm trying to keep the hair damage down as much as possible.
Hair color is so complicated!
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Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 10:45am
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2 parts 20 does not equal a 40 volume developer. 20 volume is 6% hydrogen peroxide, 40 volume is 12% and the concentration makes a big difference. 20 volume is less damaging, but also doesn't lift as well. If I were you, I would definitely get products that have matching directions (over diluting the dye to use the drabber will probably just give you some lift with not as good of a tone, or even have no effect, but it would be hard to say for sure). ------------- Making metal barettes/concord clips hair safe, long hair style how to: http://alonghair.wordpress.com |
Posted By: fakeizme
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 12:40pm
Good advice from Susan W. Definitely use the product as it was instructed. I still think the Wella would work without it being doubled as it's a concentrated product. In fact, I'm surprised it didn't turn your hair dark! Also, leave the toner on for as long as possible if you really want it to take (20 mins). Don't wash your hair for at least two days after processing so it can settle into your hair.  ------------- Love clip-ins and tape! |