Another Orange Hair Disaster
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Forum Description: The tricks and tribulations of changing your hair color
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Printed Date: July 28 2025 at 8:49am
Topic: Another Orange Hair Disaster
Posted By: Ml2f
Subject: Another Orange Hair Disaster
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 10:35am
I everyone newbie here I've read many good posts but still haven't found one with exactly what I need.
Heres the problem, I went to dark brown a few months ago with my hair, well I have way to much gray and after a month I have the dreaded skunk look, so I decided I wanted a nice dark blonde like this maybe a bit darker..

Then I would then add highlites to, so I stripped my hair using loreal hair color remover from the store...omg now I have the worst orange hair color you could even imagine.

Can someone help me out with what I need to purchase to fix this? BTW I will be purchasing my products at Sally's...
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Posted By: Sophia1
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 10:43am
Hi, my first thought since you stripped the color already, is to try a blue-based medium blonde permanent color to counteract the orange hues.
I know you want dark blonde, but since your hair is probably porous the hair will grab the color and turn out a little darker anyways, so you might want to move up one level in this case. It might turn too brownish if you apply the dark blonde right now....any other takers on this one ? Good luck
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Posted By: Ml2f
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 10:48am
I forgot to mention after I used the color remover I then applied Loreal dream blonde in med ash blonde...as you can see it made absolutely no difference the color never changed it remained orange. So I'm guessing after reading other posts I'll have bleach it to white then apply my color. What should I purchase to acheive this, and I know I need to add some type of bluing agent to remove the red?
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Posted By: Sophia1
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 6:54pm
Oh, that's strange that it didn't change the color at all. Did you use a permanent color ? Hopefully your hair is still in good condition. You are correct: a bleach, lightener could work but I would hate to see you do something that drastic. Have you heard of Second Nature by Clairol ? It's a great color corrector that simply deposits color back into your hair. They have some med blonde shades. When I screwed up my hair with orange tones, I put this on and it came out great. You could mix s little with volume 20 and do a strand test..I would certainly strand test from now on, since the results are so unpredictable at least that way you're not putting your entire head through so much :-)
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Posted By: Ml2f
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 10:44am
I headed off to sallys to purchase kaleidocolors blue and a 40 vol, did the strand test and your not going to believe this....it never change the color at all, I mixed 2 scoops to 30ml of the 40 as directed and even let my strand stay for 1 hour, no effect what so ever. I'm beginning to worry why my hair wont change. So I'm still sitting here with this awful orange hair, any other ideas?
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Posted By: karen s
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 2:06pm
Sounds like you have to much colour build up, even after using colour remover. The only way you are going to get the colour you want is to use a blue based bleach, hi light with this and then use an ash dark blonde in between the hi lighted areas. A dark blonde is still pretty dark, and although your hair is pretty orange the ash dark blonde will deposit onto your hair. You will have to tone after you bleach to remove the yellow, use a Ultra light ash blonde to tone hi lights. Use a good reconstruction conditioner after, and for a few months.
Your only other option, I'm afraid is to go back darker.
I hope this helps a little.
------------- karen sanderson
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Posted By: Ml2f
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 2:54pm
Thanks everyone, I did want my hair a light brown or even a dark blonde to begin with then add blonde highlites, its the dreaded orange Im stuck with at the moment thats driving me nuts. Im about to bleach it again to try to pull the rest of the red out, then dye it back to a dark blonde...am I doing the right thing what should I use to dye it back, Ive read to use clariol compliments semi per gel colors will this work you think?
Actually in the process of a strand test and I'm getting no lightness or color removal at all with the bleach...what the heck is going on?
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Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 12:43pm
Maybe I can help explain what happened. You used hair color remover first to remove the darker color you put on (that was indeed the right move to go blonde over dark dyed hair). It removed the dark dye, and left your color with orange. It didn't lift enough though. (Sometimes color removers can leave hair yellow, which is great if you want to go blonde, it depends on where you start from, but sometimes they don't, and it didn't in your case.) So at this point you needed more lift to get your hair past the orange stage to yellow (yellow is the best place to be to go blonde as its easiest from there). Unfortunately you dyed it instead. This medium ash blonde may have had a violet base (it should be written on the dye bottle), if it did, violet does nothing to change orange so you got no lift, and still were orange. Even if it had a blue or green base, orange is still really hard to get rid of, and it still may not have had enough of an effect. This sounds like the problem you're having now- color won't lift color. Until you take that dye off that you put on after you removed the other color, lifting to blonde is going to be harder (I must say I would have thought bleach would do it, but apparently its not, so removing the dye you put on it might make it easier). I'd use a color remover again, like colorfix, then start from there. You will get orange again (maybe a little lighter, getting closer to yellow). Then you can try doing something that gives more lift. Do test strands definitely, especially if you want to use bleach after all this. Listen to Karen S about how to do it, she knows.
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Posted By: karen s
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 3:10pm
What strength of peroxide are you using?
As Susan has said, you will need to get to the yellow stage. You really need to use a 40 vol peroxide with blue based bleach to remove colour build up. Some people get great results with colour removers, others don't.
I understand your frustrations, please, please be careful when working with bleach, as you have already used so much products on your hair.
A good test to do is called an elasticity test, this will test the chemical damage to your hair. Take a strand of damp hair between your finger and thumb, pull the hair gently, if it feels really stretchy and snaps, I would advise you to avoid using bleach.
------------- karen sanderson
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