Ideas for thick,wavy and frizzy
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Topic: Ideas for thick,wavy and frizzy
Posted By: Cyn1013
Subject: Ideas for thick,wavy and frizzy
Date Posted: May 30 2003 at 2:58pm
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Greetings :) Any input would be greatly appreciated :) my hair is thick, wavy and frizzy. If i dont apply mousse, it looks hideous and messy! i dont want to use a straightener or a blow dryer either. I'll use a blow dryer every now and then. I dont like making it a habit though. I think my hair is about 22" long. Thanks!!!  ------------- Cyndie |
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Posted By: uzma
Date Posted: May 31 2003 at 2:55am
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Hello and welcome, Cyndie I'm just wondering if you are conditioning your hair appropriately. Are you using a deep conditioner &/or oils? Also, have you tried any of the serums and waxs that are commercially available specifically formulated for frizzy and wavy hair? How do you wear your hair - up...loose? Also, what are you trying to achieve with your hair. Do you want to work with your waves but lessen the frizziness, or do you want your hair as straight and sleek? Sorry, I am asking questions rather than suggesting solution, but if you could provide some more info than maybe I, and the other folks here could help you out some. Take care. Uzi ------------- Uzi |
Posted By: Lyris
Date Posted: May 31 2003 at 11:53am
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Uzma can give you some great tips on good oils for your hair--something I'm going to try myself. I have found success using a silicone spray, which is essentially a shine serum in liquid form. The stuff makes my frizzy hair calm right down and stay that way. Welcome to the board Cyndie--hope you are enjoying your weekend! ------------- Look for beauty, and you will find no intelligence. Look for intelligence and you will find both.Proud member of the Cult of All Soft |
Posted By: Cyn1013
Date Posted: June 01 2003 at 9:23am
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Thanks Lyris and Uzi for your responses :) as far as my weekend in concerned---i'll only have one day to enjoy :( my husband left to a sailing class yesterday morning. i went to the backyard to see if the water was cool enough to take a swim. it was about 11:30am. water was perfect. so, as i headed back to the house to get my swimsuit, i find the back door closed! i wanted to die! i couldnt go anywhere for i was still in my pj's and had no shoes! it was a hot saturday afternoon---good thing we had the pool---or else! needless to say, my husband showed up until 5:00---there goes my saturday--down the drain but, at least i have One more day! :) anyway, in response to your questions uzi, i wear my hair in a pony tail during the week..about 2 days out of the week all wear it loose. i like my hair straight or wavy---no preference. i just want the frizziness to go away. when i try to straighten out ( ill do this when i get tired of having the wavy hair) , i dont get the "sleek" look i get at the salon but rather the frizziness look and it just looks hideous. i havent had a oil treatment in years. i am currently using pantene. i am thinking about getting Redkin---heard it was supposed to be good. another thing i sometimes use is the frizz-ease serum. i also color my hair once a month. it is more like a touch-up, to cover the grey in front and on the crown. Hope this help! :) ------------- Cyndie |
Posted By: uzma
Date Posted: June 01 2003 at 4:13pm
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Hi Cyndie Some suggestions for you: PRE-WASH Try a pre-wash heavy oiling routine once a week. There is a Hair Oils thread on this board that would give you some ideas. It will probably take about 3 or 4 oiling treatments before you start seeing good results, so if you try oiling, hang on in there. If you don’t want to use straight oil, Phytotherathrie make a great pre-wash egg yolk (doesn’t smell eggy) and oil product called “PhytoNectar”. This is an intensely moisturising product and I had no frizz or tangles after using this even on humid days. You may be able to get this product in the HairBoutique Market Place, if you are interested. SHAMPOO Try out Redken. Many here have reported good results using All Soft, etc. Some shampoos have a relaxing effect on wavy/curly hair. I experienced this with Kerastase Bain Satin #3. Make sure you diute your shampoo so that you are not over-stripping you hair of its naural oils and thereby encouraging the frizzies. CONDITIONER Try using cone-free conditioners for a while and see if they make a difference. Seeing as you colour your hair, I suggest using a deep conditioner every time you wash your hair. POST-WASH There is an incredible relaxing gel that progressively de-frizzes and straightens the hair shaft. It is called “Phyto Defrisant”. Again, it is by Phytotherathrie and I think you can get it from the HB Market Place. You might also try a smear of pure shea butter, rubbed into your palms and then used to sleek your hair when wearing a ponytail. I also found that something as simple as combing my wet hair straight a few times while it is drying and applying a leave-in conditioner (Phyto 9) eliminates frizz. Hope some of the above is helpful to you. I’m sure Lyris and others here will be able to offer you more tips. Best Wishes Uzi ------------- Uzi |
Posted By: Cyn1013
Date Posted: June 03 2003 at 7:14am
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thanks for your help uzi :) Got one more question, what about hairsprays? i think Lyris had mentioned she uses silicone sprays? arent we supposed to avoid anything that ends with *cone* ? :) or was it for the shampoo/conditioner only? I am use hair spray once in a while--to get my bangs in place when they get too long. i use pantene hairspray--yep, it leaves my hair stiff stiff stiff! :O Thanks again and Happy Tuesday! Only 3 more days for the weekend :) ------------- Cyndie |
Posted By: Lyris
Date Posted: June 03 2003 at 7:30am
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Using silicone is purely a matter of personal preference. Some people's hair really takes to them, others find it leaves it weighed down. Silicone is very resistant to water and therefore clings to the hair shaft better than most other conditioning agents. Personally, nothing makes my hair smooth like my silicone spray (usually called a shiner, glosser or serum on the shelf.) I spray it on after drying my hair and the effect is considerable. It has no hold, unlike hair sprays that do contain film-formers. If you find that silicones (which don't always end in "cone"--cyclohexasilaxane and cyclopentasilaxane are also silicones) leave your hair dull with repeated use, you can always use a shampoo with no conditioning agents for a good thorough cleansing. This has never happened to me (it would take a Mac truck to weigh my bushy mane down) so I do use them. It's up to you! If you're looking for a decent hairspray for hold, try to find one without SD alcohol 40. This is different than the fatty, coconut-derived emollients in your conditioner such as cetyl/stearyl/cetearyl alcohol, which impart shine and softness. SD alcohol 40 (and other denatured alcohols) are added to hairspray to make it dry faster. However, the increased evaporation rate is also somewhat hard on your hair. I've only found one alcohol-free hairspray and it's at Sally Beauty by Ion. It does not dry as quickly as standard sprays but it doesn't take an exorbitant length of time either. ------------- Look for beauty, and you will find no intelligence. Look for intelligence and you will find both.Proud member of the Cult of All Soft |
Posted By: Cyn1013
Date Posted: June 03 2003 at 8:00am
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I saw the Ion hairspray you mentioned--i'll make sure to get it on my next visit:) Boy, this is really THE place to get answers! LOL! how long have you been studying these ingredients Lyris? ------------- Cyndie |
Posted By: Lyris
Date Posted: June 03 2003 at 9:31am
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Since I did something REALLY stupid almost three years ago. My sophomore year in college I tried to dye my hair a lighter brown. Needless to say it turned out orange so I had it highlighted to cover my tragic error. Eventually it got so dried out that I scrambled for a solution. A friend pointed me toward Paula Begoun's work, among others, and I started reading everything I could get my hands on. I was dismayed to learn that while I was specifically looking for a way to repair the damage my naive 19-year-old self had inflicted, I discovered that it's impossible. Once you damage your hair, you're stuck with it until it grows out or you cut it off :-( That was the biggest lesson I learned. After that I studied ingredient listings so I would know what would at least mimic the look/feel of healthy hair. I don't want to make it sound like I earned a degree in trichology or anything---I was a public relations major--because really I haven't spent that much time reading up on hair. (At least not when you compare the endless hours spent on Taylorism, the silver bullet theory and independent clauses necessary for a comm degree and almost completely UNNECESSARY for the real world!) :-) ------------- Look for beauty, and you will find no intelligence. Look for intelligence and you will find both.Proud member of the Cult of All Soft |