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Used Goldwell 9N and it came out orange!

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Topic: Used Goldwell 9N and it came out orange!
Posted By: pallasgirl
Subject: Used Goldwell 9N and it came out orange!
Date Posted: October 15 2010 at 10:06am

My natural colour is ash toned light brown.  I've had bleached streaks for years but now have lots of grey on top.  I was looking too bleached blonde, so we decided to transition to hair colour.  I would like a cool toned base much like my natural shade and then put streaks on top.  My stylist chose Goldwell 9N and added 5 ml of 8N, and it turned out very yellow....even slightly orangey!!    She said we wanted to get contrast so the streaks would show up better.  It looks horrible.!!  She said my hair obviously pulls a lot of gold.   So, what to do differently?  She's hesitant to use goldwell ash tones cause she says it makes grey hair look muddy.  Is this true?  I can't stand the yellowy goldy orangey thing.  I definitely want more of a cool dirty blonde base to warm my face up (I'm 48) and then the streaks on top and then some lowlights as well.

 Anyone know about goldwell?   And how about fixing it now?  She just did the roots thank god, but I'm thinking I'll go back and get more blonde streaks around the face.  I'm also going to try some of those clarifying shampoos.  Will it just fade it a bit?  What if I use one of those violet based silver shampoos?
 
thanks
pallasgirl


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Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 9:24am
Yeah, sometimes neutral comes out redder than you'd expect. Every time I go brown, it always seems to fade through a reddish brown stage before going to dark blonde. She is right though, the only way to avoid that is to use a color with a green base, and if you've got blonde highlights or gray, it can make those go green. Maybe she can do the base color separate so she can use ash on that? Its not easy, keeping hair separate, you may have to discuss it and see what she can do. Since you are going to a pro, its best to let her fix it, tell her what you didn't like, and discuss what to do different with her.

As for now, violet shampoo or conditioner won't counter red or orange, but it will slightly tone down yellow (so it depends which color you've got now whether that will help or not). Clarifying shampoo may fade it, or it may make it more orange (that would happen only if you're seeing orange because your natural color was lifted to orange with the peroxide in the dye). Another stripper is baking soda mixed half and half with your regular shampoo (an alkaline approach if the acidic clarifying shampoo doesn't work). Again though, its also just stripping it, so it depends if the orange comes from the dye or if your hair is just orange because it was lifted to that shade whether it will work or not. You will need to condition really well after using either of those, they strip all the moisture from the hair.

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