help meee
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Topic: help meee
Posted By: GUEST!
Subject: help meee
Date Posted: January 07 2004 at 12:27pm
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ok i wanna grow my hair long and i want it to look kinda like this, the same kinda look/quality hair but not quite that style, how do i get me hair like that without it looking too shiny or using gel that makes it super shiny, or wax which makes it greecy. at the min my hair has lots of static and looks pretty dull. could n e 1 plz suggest something to help? i heard head and shoulders is really good but i also heard bad things about it. here are some pics of the kinda hair i want like this but diff style  this looks pretty similar but less wet looking i want  and this one is amasing  ok guys , thx alot plz help :D |
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Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 13 2004 at 12:20pm
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Not knowing any of the following about your hair: -Current length, texture and condition You might try these tips for styling your hair: (after shampooing and deep-conditioning) 1) Finger shake hair into the general shape you want the style to lay in. 2) Work through a SMALL amount of leave-in conditioner (such as Phytologie 9) through hair - working root-to-tips. 3) Repat process, working through a small amount of defrizz product (less product if using a silicone-based product). I am partial to Phytologie Phytodefrissant. 4) Press a small amount of gel or conditioning gel (such as Terax LifeDrops) into just the tips of the hair. Use this step to group together chunks of hair and further create the finished shape of the style you want. 5) If you have the time, allow the hair to air dry completely. Not only is this better for your hair, you'll have even less problems with frizz. 6) Finish the style by working small amounts at a time of either an oil-based conditioner or pomade through the tips of the hair. Use a little at a time. Try finding one of the Shea Butter based conditioning style products (Such as L'Occitane, Hanadi, Lavett & Chin, etc. Kiehl's also has some great conditioning/styling pomades). 7) If at this point, you are going for even less frizz and more separation, you can mix in your palms a some leave-in conditioner and small amount of one of the silicone shine products (LESS IS MORE) such as Phytologie's "Phytolisse" or Bumble&Bumble's "Bb Defrizz." If you really want to go for the ultra shiny/separated/almost wet-looking look, you could replace step #7 with just running some Sebastian "Moulding Mud" through your hair. Please respond to the board with how your luck runs with creating the style you are looking for. As you post more, you'll get additional good advice from other users. Best of luck! D. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 18 2004 at 2:17pm
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wow great tips , thankyou, iv just read this and i think i will try what you say, aulthough some of the things you mentiond seem a little hard to get hold of, but thankyou very much, at the min my hair is medium thickness, and about up to my eyes (used to be longer) im growin it tho, its dyed black and i get loads of static/fly away when i wash my hair which seemed to get worse after using leave in conditioner, couple of questions tho. how should i dry my hair, how do i stop hair fly away n stuff and which is the best shampoo i could buy in a supermarket (is head and shoulders as good as they say in the advert coz i heard lots of bad thing and lots of good) plz reply :D ty so much |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 18 2004 at 2:21pm
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also on step 2, how small are we talking? also should i use shampoo for colour treated hair? coz i havent been doing be4, and plz suggest me one :D, a one easy to buy in the shop like panten or head and shoulders or somethin |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 18 2004 at 2:23pm
| one last thing, how often should i wash my hair and when shuold i use deep conditioner, thanks ! |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 20 2004 at 11:21am
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Lot's of good questions...I'll try to answer them all. Let me know though if I miss something. On the leave-in, a good small amount to start with would be about half the size of a marble. Since you mentioned the static problem, that's a good cue to try and work more of any leave-in conditioners or leave-in styling aids toward the tips of your hair. This doesn't mean to use more product though...just try to get more of what you would use onto the tips. Static can actually lead to hair in worse condition because it causes split ends which will also cause your hair to look poofy. For shampoos, since you have dyed hair, you might consider a couple of things. One would be to select one of the shampoos for color-treated hair. They tend to be more acidic; which closes down the cuticle and 1) hold in the color longer 2) increases the shine of hair without the use of yet more styling products and 3) will help reduce static fly-aways. There's a very important tip though that's true with all shampoos but even moreso with the color-protecting ones...rinse rinse rinse...and when you are done rinsing, rinse some more. Most people don't get 100% of their shampoo out of their hair and that can be their primary cause of static problems. A couple of other tips that will improve the overall appearance and shine are to not use hot water. Try cool water to shampoo with, cooler water to rinse and cold water when rinsing away conditioner. Using cool/cold water to rinse means you have to rinse longer, but you'll like the result after doing this a few times. How often to shampoo... This is a question dependant on a lot of things like if you live somewhere warm, what you do between shampooing, etc. In general though, shampooing overdone is just going to cause you problems. Try this. Let's say you currently shampoo every day...instead of shampooing on days 2 and 3, try just conditioning...and use the time you would be normally shampooing and conditioning to just condidtion. Most conditioners will do a great job of removing oils, residue from products, etc if left on a little longer. Just be sure to rinse completely. When to deep condition... Especially since your hair is dyed, the best answer is probably "as often as you can." Time is usually an issue though, so you could try a few things like conditioning while you sleep. You could press some conditioner into the tips of dry hair at night and after several rounds of this, you'll notice the hair improving and a lot less fly-aways. About drying... If you can deal with just letting your hair air dry, it's a good opportunity to improve the condition of your hair. Just shake your hair/finger-style into the general shape you're going for with just minimal product in the hair. Press in a little leave in conditioner in the tips - especially into bangs, etc...when the hair dries, you'll have added some weight and texture and be controling the fly-aways. Once the hair is dry, you can go back and apply other styling products to add shine, etc. If you use a blow dryer, try using the cool setting and blow the hair in the general direction you want it to lay when it is styled....i.e. like in the Depp photo in your original post, you wouldn't get that look by blow-drying the hair back and then expect the bangs to hang forward and down like that. For product suggestions at say Target or wherever, my best suggestion is to put the bulk of the money you spend into three things. 1) a good leave-in conditioner 2) a good general conditioner that you can use as a daily and deep conditioner and 3) a gentle, color-protecting shampoo. Beyond that, then go for the styling products. They become less important the better condition your hair is in. Sorry for the supor-long post but I hope this helps. D. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 20 2004 at 11:26am
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I forgot one other conditioning tip that might help. Whether you have just rinsed out the shampoo and are ready to condition or aren't shampooing but just conditioning, towel-dry your hair a bit before applying the conditioner. Doing this works wonders because having less water in you hair allows the conditioner to make better contact with the hair and thus do a better job, with the use of less product. Once the conditioner is in, you might also want to use a wide-tooth comb to carefully comb the conditioner through your hair. Doing this helps smooth the cuticle and gives you shinier hair with less fly-aways. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 21 2004 at 12:28pm
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wow man thx for all the great help, heres my current condtion/general stuff bout my hair 4 u :D dyed:black fly aways: yup yup using: 2:1 dandruf thing for a bit :( going to use: colour treated shampoo & condtioner also using:John frieda deep con wash hair: about every 3 days styling products used: non (maybie a tiny bit of gel length: about to the top of my eyes temperature in my area: cold, rainy windy :( dry: towel err, thats it, thx for all ur tips, ill wash my hair now and see how it goes. also one question, if i wanna wash my hair quickly eg going to work in the morning or stuff or waking up in morning wot do i do? and could u suggest some decent things i can buy to dye my hair black coz the last one, felt like it was burning me. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 21 2004 at 12:32pm
| when pressign the gel into my hair , could u plz elaborate on that plz coz im having trouble with that part |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 21 2004 at 1:14pm
also, when u add gel to make it stay togethern clumps, u mean like this rite? coz id like mine to look tike that, thats wot the gel at the ends r for rite?
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Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 21 2004 at 1:55pm
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Yep - working product into the ends will help it give that clumped together look and add weight so it kind of flops down. You might try mixing about half gel and half conditioner for doing the tips...gel alone might be to "crispy." Or instead, try a waxy pomade product (you might like this result more). Some tricks you can do when pressing the gel or pomade into the tips though is to work with a very small amount at a time. Try having just enough product on your fingertips to smooth the product into one area at a time. The best way I can describe doing this is with one hand, grab a clump of hair about 2 inches from the tip and with product on your thumb and forefinger of the other hand, grab the hair and smooth the product into the last inch of hair closest to the tips...working toward the tips with the product. About color suggestions...I really can't help there. However, if your scalp is burning though when doing the color, it could be because your hair/scalp was wet from shampooing/conditioning too soon before applying color. Try doing the color a day after shampooing and conditioning. On the day of doing the color, work with a totally dry scalp. That might help. A couple of other tips to get the most out of the color would be to make sure your hair is in the best condition possible before coloring. Also, try to minimize the amount of products you have in your hair when you color. This will help the color set in better. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 21 2004 at 2:06pm
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You asked about when you're in a hurry... You might look into a product made by Bumble&Bumble called Hair Powder. They make it in black. It's great for re-styling hair without re-wetting. You'll have to find a salon in your area that sells Bumble&Bumble and it's around $30 for a bottle but is super-cool and worth it (lasts a long time too). The way it works is you pour about a dime-size portion of the powder into the palms of your hands and then hold your head upside down and run the powder all through your hair. At first, it will kind of "fluff up" your hair but it will put the body back in and make it appear like it's been washed and dried. Once the powder is in (takes about 5 seconds to do), you re-apply some pomade/gel back into the tips. You'll end up with a super-cool look by doing this plus, the color of the powder (which washes out in the next shampoo) pumps up the color in your hair. Overall, the powder impars a kind of matte finish (until you put more product back in which will add the shine back). If you find a salon in your area that sells Bumble&Bumble and call them in advance, they might invite you in to try the product there first to see if you like it or they might even offer you a sample of it to take home and try. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 22 2004 at 7:23am
| thanks again, one thing i come across today is that this stuff (duno wot it is) is a styling product or some thing and wot it does is, makes ur hair slightly shiny, holds bits of hair together, allows movement and doesnt look greacy and doesnt seem to dry out, is this just wet look gel or something? coz it looks ace and doesnt dry out but i dunnot wot it is |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 22 2004 at 9:55am
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i dunno, kinda like this, u know its got something in it |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 22 2004 at 9:56am
 bad link |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 23 2004 at 9:44am
| oh and also im gonna be getting my hair cut soon to get the colour out, so plz gimmi tips on which shampoo and conditioner is the best :D im thinking about head and shoulders coz i do have a bit of split ends n dandruff :(. also im getting it cut coz the black has faded and i had lots of split ends and static so i screwed it up and starting again, plz post back, tyyy |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 23 2004 at 2:58pm
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When you are in getting your hair cut, definately ask the stylist, but my personal suggestion would be to not use Head-and-Shoulders. Itchy scalp can be caused by a number of things, but all signs point to if you get into a good routine of conditioning regularly and shampooing less, the itchy scalp (and split ends) will be minimized. My favorite shampoos though, mostly come from Photologie, which I believe HairBoutique.com sells. You can also buy the brand at Sephora and at Nieman Marcus and Nordstrom stores. Photologie makes a great shampoo for dry hair. It's called PhytoNectar. They also make a pre-Shampoo to go with it; also called PhytoNectar. Probably their best shampoo for color-treated hair (though it's difficult to find) is PhytoCidre. It's got a LOT of cider vinegar in it and is great for locking in color. You have to rinse like crazy though. Another line that you might want to consider getting a product or two from is Terax. Their "Rigine 8" conditioner is great and you can use just a drop or two as a leave-in conditioner. If you go on-line to Terax.com and go to their comments section, you should be able to let them know you heard about the product and ask them to send you a brochure and some samples. Ask them to send you samples of the products: Rigine 8, LifeDrops and Hydrate. It sounds like you like to have your hair dyed, but you may have difficulty growing it out long if you dye it yourself. You might have to decide which is more important, getting the longer hair or having the color. The color out of the box at the stores is just so damaging. Anyow, your stylist will probably suggest cutting off the existing color and then growing the hair out and then to have her or him color it for you. It's worth the money but does end up becoming a recurring expense. Good luck on your trip to get your hair cut. At some point, someone else on line is bound to read these posts and have some additional suggestions and tips. -D. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 23 2004 at 3:10pm
| Here's the link to Terax's web site that I mentioned in the last post: www.teraxhaircare.com/ |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 24 2004 at 10:53am
| you didnt tell me what that stuff was that i didnt know about, n e way , i got my hair cut and i havent got quite all the black out yet, but its definatly better condition then be4. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 24 2004 at 10:56am
| also i cant get the online things coz i dont have a credit card, could u plz tell me which is the best that i could buy in a superstore eg: panten pro v, herbal essences,h&s,fructis, which is best outa those 4? and what the product i didnt know plz, ty :D |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 24 2004 at 11:49am
idea time, how about if i just whack this over and wash my hair about every 2-3 days. Secret Agent lightly lubricates hair leaving it supple,smooth and shiny.It gives 24 hr coverage,permeating the hair shaft,taming static and flyaway hair.With a sunscreen to help protect from UV damag |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 24 2004 at 12:37pm
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I haven't seen or tried that "Secret Agen" stuff, but it looks cool...That's a good "drugstore" brand too. Next time I'm at Target, I'll look at it. I'd still write to the Terax people...the samples they'll send you are free and they won't need a credit card. Most on-line places will also let you order by sending them a money order. ...Just a thought. Anyhow, for the other store-brands you asked about, I guess I would suggest the Pantene...they have a decent product and a lot of choices - especially in the way of conditioners and deep conditioners. I just wouldn't get any kind of shampoo that is a combined shampoo-N-conditioner. Now that you got your hair cut, take care of those hair tips religiously with conditioner and leave-in and you'll love how your hair will start looking as it grows out. I'll try to think of some other companies you could email who might send you free samples. At least then you can experiment with some of the "higher end" products before clunking down some big bucks. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 25 2004 at 10:03am
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well i just washed my hair and it looked absolutly crap dry, lots of static n split ends, so i just put some gel on and spiked it up till it gets longer, im still gonna wash it often tho, im guessing i should shampoo about every 2 days and condition it every day rite? would that fix split ends or r they perminent? also u stil didnt tell me wot that product was :D it seems to have a bit of hold, looks slightly shiny (not greecy) ,ill try to find u more pics... |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 25 2004 at 1:11pm
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Which product? I think you mean a pomade...that will give hold but not dry out...depending on what type you use, you can get pomade with shine or pomade that makes hair a little dull-looking (which is cool on the right hair). 4 good pomades are: -Aveda's "Control Paste" It smells great and is very conditioning. It will give you a matte finish with little shine. -Bumble and Bumble's "SumoTech" Also smells great but takes some work getting used to. It's also a matte (VERY matte). -Bumble and Bumble's "Styling Wax" This one adds a lot of shine and will give you the slightly greasy look if that's what you want. -Physique's "Precision Wax" This has a lot of hold, shine and is great for using in small amounts to create a separated look. You mentioned you had bad luck after drying your hair...that the Poof came back. You need to add some sort of product - leave-in conditioning to the hair while it's still damp. If you dry the hair before putting any products in, you will, for sure, get a lot of poof. Pomades, on the other hand, are best suited as finishers...once the general style is set with any other products. About the split ends...you can't fix them and make them go away...but you can minimize them if you condition regularly and use styling products that condition. Think of a split end like the end of a frayed rope. And think of the styling products like adding glue to the end of the rope. It doesn't fix the rope, but keeps all the frayed ends together. Keep doing regular deep conditionings and you'll see improvement...don't expect it to happen right away...it takes time and you have to change your routine. On the gel you are using, check the indredient list...if you see alcohol in there, that could ultimately add to your problems because alcohol is drying to hair and is added to a lot of gels because people want a product that dries fast. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 26 2004 at 1:46pm
example time  this is pomade? sry but i cant find a good picture |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 26 2004 at 3:03pm
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The first photo looks to have little-if-any pomade in it. Notice the hair is not very shiny, but at the same time is not poofy or curly. There is a product by Phytologie called Phytodefrisant Balm and that's what it looks like could have been used (or something similar). That product will provide a smooth and matte finish to hair...it will look like there isn't product in but the fly-aways are tamed. There are all sorts of other straigtening balms/gels/etc, but many of them have silicones in them, which will not give you the look in this photo. An alternative "drugstore" product that is somewhat comparable to the Phyto balm is the John Freida straightening balm (comes in a container that looks like a stick of deoderant). That product is very conditioning and doesn't impart a lot of shine. You might like that. Both products work best when worked into damp hair. Once the product is in, you could comb the hair into shape (use a wide-toothed comb to give the type of separation you see in the first of the last two photos you posted. From there, you can let the hair completely air dry before you do anything else to it, or if you want to go for a smooth look with little separation, you could blow the hair dry (using a flat brush and blow and brush the hair in the direction you want the style to be set in). For the second photo, it looks like the person probably has either natural or straigtened hair...plus there is a lot of shine...and there is a lot of separation. That leads to the possability of a couple of products. It could be a shining pomade like Aveda's Brilliante Anti-Humectant, but he probably wouldn't keep the separation he has in the style. More than likely, it's a shiny wax-based pomade...like that Physique product I mentioned a few posts back. Any of this help? D. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 27 2004 at 8:43am
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phew, finally a product i can buy :D that john frieda stuff i can get eazyy. so, lemmi go throught it and u tell me if im rite, wet/shampoo/deep condition/dry out/add that agent stuff/add strightening balm and comb through also whats a wide tooth comb :D? |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 27 2004 at 8:44am
| or wont i need the friz ease if i get this balm? |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: January 27 2004 at 8:45am
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oh damn, the shop i buy it from doesnt seem to sell. would u mind going to this link and seeing which i should use, like that balm thing http://www.asda.com/asda_shop/sys/web_sys02_a_main_frameset.jsp?BV_SessionID= - http://www.asda.com/asda_shop/sys/web_sys02_a_main_frameset.jsp?BV_SessionID= @@@@1236886402.1075214925@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccladckiddjmljcfkfcfkjdgoodglo.0 |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: January 27 2004 at 10:46am
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THe link doesn't work, but if you tell me what product you're looking at, I can look it up and write back about it. On the list of steps...add rinse after deep conditioning and on the dry out part, you don't want your hair totally dry before you add the straigtening balm. I haven't used the Secret Agent stuff, but that might need to go on when the hair is styled and dry...not sure yet on that. A wide-tooted comb just looks like a regular comb, but its teeth are larger and spaced further apart...it gives you more separation - instead of helmet head, which is what you'd get with a regular comb. The combing part after putting in the straightening balm is important, because the combing straightens the hair and the balm sets in the straigtness. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 01 2004 at 9:49am
| i dont need to put any gel or anything in it rite? |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 02 2004 at 6:26pm
| ok, this stuff, it clumps together bits of hair and makes it slightly darker and adds a little hold, its pomade rite? coz i cant seem to get hold of pomade, so far i got deep condition and defrizz agent stuff, im looking on asda.com (:P) n e chance u could look for me? coz i just cant find it grr |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: February 02 2004 at 10:03pm
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*...and the lighbulb pops up over my head* Okay...I just went to the site and now I get it...you're in the UK, right? I was going to ask before because I looked everywhere for that Secret Agent product and it was only showing up on the UK web sites...they have it here in the US, but it's marketed as Secret Weapon instead of Agent (no clue why). Anyhow...okay so I looked at the site and am not familiar with a number of the brands there - however, it looked like they do have a lot of pomade-type products but they are calling them wax products...which is fine because pomades are generally waxy. ...a rose by another name...I think that's what we're dealing with here. Okay so when you go back to the site, look for hair products that use the word "wax" as part of their name or description. Those are the products you'll use to get separation and create a "chunked" or sleek look and tame the fly-aways. It's easy to use too much though...and then when you do, you're hair will look like crap and you'll have to shampoo it all out and start over. Definately practice with the product...starting with a little and then get the hang of it. If you have a disaster or don't like how it works out one time, try again but try the product in a different order...meaning, maybe you can try adding the wax to the ends of the hair while it's still damp...and let's say you hate how your hair turns out...then next time, try adding the product once your hair is completely dry. Do you have any other major retail stores near you that sell hair products? If you come across another brand you want me to read up on and advise on, let me know. I kept mentioning Target in my other posts, but realize now, you might not have a Target store in your area if you are in the UK. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 04 2004 at 1:18pm
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i did use wax be4 but i used too much and it looked super greacy, could u plz tell me how much of it to use and when i shuold use it, like wash/condition/deep con a bit on wet hair/anti friz stuff same way/then wax? sry if its confusing |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: February 04 2004 at 7:47pm
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Wax can be a tricky thing to get used to...and then once you get it right, it will seem as soon as your hair grows a little that the wax doesn't work again. It's strange that way. Anyhow, try not to use the wax when your hair is wet unless you really want a sleek look. Still do the shampoo/deep condition/de-frizz but then kind of get your hair set and let it dry or go almost completely dry. It's best to start with the smallest amount of wax you can. I know it is so tempting to glob a bunch in, but that's usually where things will go wrong. Try getting just a super small amount (like a one fourth the amount of say, a pea) and rub it between the palms of your hands to warm it up...and work a little to the fingertips....then kind of pull your fingers through the hair you want to apply wax to. Doing this, you will slowly be adding wax and then you'll start to see separation in the sections of hair, along with less frizz and more shine. The key is to start with small amounts and work it into the hair section by section. Keep in mind too the look you'll be getting with the wax....not all of the photos you posted show styles that would be accomplished with a wax/pomade. Also, try that technique I mentioned a few posts back...by pressing just enough wax into the tips of dry hair. Barely coat the pad of your index finger with wax and then rub together with your thumb. Then, grab chunks of hair and smooth into just the tips. You'll get a cool effect without the overall greasy look. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 06 2004 at 2:42pm
| well how would u do it if u wanted the clumping together and like, all over ur hair |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: February 07 2004 at 12:54pm
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Everyone's hair is different, but I personally get the best separation when using a wax/pomade if I have already dried and styled my hair to the point that it is really "poofed out" and then I get some wax/pomade and rub it between the palms of my hands and fingers. Then I work from the back of the head, toward the front and quickly and lightly coat sections of hair by using my fingers and just kind of grab neat the tips and smooth small amounts of product at a time to the tips. As I need more product, I rub my hands together and transfer the product that's already in my palms, to my fingertips. This lets me control how much product I use and I can apply only a small amount at a time. I finish up with the bangs and kind of pull the product through to the tips and into the general direction I want them to hang. If I wanted more curl and a shinier look, I could do a variation on this whole thing and start applying the wax/pomade when the hair is slightly damp - though this is more difficult to do because the moisture can result in a really greasy look or just a giant shiny waxy mound of hair - not very appealing. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 09 2004 at 1:27pm
| gotcha, well, ill be putting a long post tomorrow about all the things i guess i havent told u, + the outcome of some of my experiments, will be a long post i guess, just lettin u know lol :D |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 10 2004 at 11:24am
| not the big post yet but... to get the separation, do u need a large tooth comb? and which type of wax should i use? hold/styling/gel wax/strong there are lots of types, the only big store i got near me is asda, could u plzzzzzzzzz look at asda.co.uk on the online shopping and see which wax is best for me, coz im stuck, tyyyy |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: February 10 2004 at 12:31pm
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Good timing for the lastest question since I just washed my hair, I'll tell you what I'm doing right now. I added some leave-in conditioner and then a little Terax Lifedrops (which, you could use a light gel as a substitute). Then I combed the hair with a wide-tooth comb, into the general shape I want the style to lay. Then I reapplied just a little more Terax Lifedrops (again, you could use any light gel here) with my fingers to just the tips of the hair on my bangs and sides. Right now, I am letting the hair air dry and once that's done, I'll take some waxy pomade and with my fingers, work that through a few sections on the sides and bangs. I'm looking at the web site you mentioned right now...brb. |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: February 10 2004 at 1:00pm
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Okay...looking at the site, here's the products I see that stand out (keep in mind I have not hear of many of these brands and am going by their descriptions): John Frieda Ready to Wear miracle masque 125ML -Looks like a good deep conditioner for you. John Frieda Frizz Ease 5 minute manager 200ML -This one looks like it might be good, even if you aren't going to blowdry. Since your first post, I wrote to them and got a spec sheet on all their products. I am reading now that this product has a ph of 4.94, which should help close down the hair cuticle and add some natural shine (and help tame fly-aways). If you use this product, I would suggest lightly spraying through the hair right after you're done conditioning and towel-drying the hair. This would be your first step in the styling process. Studio Line Invisible liquid gel NORMAL -This looks like it would be a good light gel for you. This would go on afte rthe last product (5 minute manager) and you could hold your head upsidedown while you apply it...work it lightly through the hair and kind of finger-shake the hair to start getting some separation. Then use that wide-tooth comb to comb the hair into a general shape and then I would set the style by spraying some of the gel in my hands and working it through the tips - especailly at the bangs where you want the hair to just kind of fall. From there, you could air dry the hair or lightly blowdry. Just make sure the hair is dry before you proceed with the next product. ASDA Styling wax pro-vitamin 50ML -This seems like it might be a good product that also conditions. You would probably want to use this only in small quantities, at the end of styling your hair...i.e. only use a little on the tips of dry hair and not all over, but only on a few sections here and there to create some separation. Shock Waves Creative clay 75ML -This looke like a really cool product if you have already used the other pomade/wax but you want even more chunky separation. What I mean by this is that the other pomade/wax serves a purpose, but you can only put so much in your hair before it starts looking greasy. You mentioned in several posts, wanting to avoid the greasy look...so this product might be great for you to add more separation on top of the other products. Because it is a matte-finish clay, it will tone down the shine you have added with the other products. The key to these type of clay "pomades" is to use it sparingly and pull only through the tips and sections of dry hair. I think you'll like this product more if you layer it on top of the other styling products I have mentioned. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 12 2004 at 8:46am
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ok first of all, my hair i had it cut abuot 2 months ago when it was really long, it kinda sucked tho coz the dye screwed it up, i used wax then but it looked super greacy coz i put a LOT on, also when i washed my hair it kind of stuck to my head :D. now my has been cut, it was dyed black but is naturally brown, theres still a little black on the tips, about 2 cm but on the sides its all out coz its shorter. while its short, iv just been making it spikey becuase it looks dull being short and flat , + i dont have the anti frizz stuff yet, gotta get some more £££ before i buy all the stuff u mentiond and work it out, the main style im going to go for is the cobain style, from the pictures ill put in at the end of this post. long, blonde, LOTS of separation, ull see wot i mean when i get the picture up. at the min i have been deep conditioning about 1 time a week and washing about 3 times a week, i have been adding quite a lot of gel tho, because my hair seems to go super static all over with LOTs of fly aways and makes me look very bad, also the barber has done a bad job at cutting my hair :( the fringe is kina screwed up, its all the same length but theres little chunks kinda cut out the side, not quit as bad as it sounds but with static and friz i look like an ideot thats why im gelling it at the miniute, i have tryed various experiments and heres the results, some are just messing around tho. adding deep conditioner in light amounts all over after washing and deep conditinoing tamed the frizz a bit but it still did look quite bad. i tryed wax (pomade) the one i found in the bathroom was strong shockwaves wax, i added it on slightly damp hair and it seems like it will turn out ok when i get anti friz coz u could see that some bits were screwed up with fly aways n stuff. for a laugh i wet my hair that was gelled and combed it and it looked totally separated like i wanted, but it set solid and kinda lost the separation after 5 mins lol. well theres the experiments, at the min im washing my hair with fructis sleek and shine shampoo and conditoner and john frieda miraculous recovery deep contitioner. when i wash my hair i do it in the shower, i get some shampoo and get it all over and well rubbed in then i rinse it then add i tiny bit of shampoo and spread it over the top (dont ask me why) then i run conditioner all over, then i wash that out, then i deep condition and leave it on for about 7 mins then wash that out, then i hand dry my hair a bit by brushing a towel over the top of my hair till its damp then i put small bit of deep conditioner all over , then when my hair gets longer ill wax it, but im spiking it and putting strong gel in it at the min. i dont have a wide tooth comb yet and dont know where to get one eather, but its gonna have to be really wide for the separation and look i want. well that it for my long post since u done so many :D heres the pics of the look i want. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 12 2004 at 8:48am
.jpg) this is the main look i want - 2nd pic  this is 3rd- a close up  if im doing n e thing wrong to get this style plz tell me, *phew* finally finished :D |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 12 2004 at 8:51am
stupid pictues.... lemmi try again seperation one -3rd 
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Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 13 2004 at 12:44pm
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couple little things, what are bangs? also i need the applying explaning a little more because i know little abut styling, eg: finger shake your hair into the position, how to apply only at the ends, and how to use the spray over ur hair and how much , sorry but i dont get it lol |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 16 2004 at 9:27am
| also im having trouble finding a wide tooth comb, there isnt one named "wide tooth" and i dont know what im looking for |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: February 23 2004 at 8:47pm
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Sorry for the delay in answering...had a bit of a crisis last week. Okay...Bangs...that's just the hair at the top of your forehead that hangs down in your face. The Wide-Toothed Comb...it's just a big comb with lots of space between the spikes of the comb...it helps create separation and more chunky look than if you used a regular comb or brush. On applying to the ends...maybe this visual will help...imagine you have a pencil in one hand and on the other hand, you have the hair product on your pointing finger and thumb...a light coating of hair product...if you had to put the product on the end of the pencil, you'd use your pointing finger and thumb to press the product on and around the pencil tip. ....i.e. same technique with the tips of hair...grab a section near the end of the hair with one hand and with the pointing finger and thumb of the other hand, smooth a light coating of product (such as wax or pomade)...you may find that simply pinching the tips of sections of hair with your finger and thumb (while product is on them) works best for you. A good trick to prevent applying too much product is to place some wax or pomade in the palm of your hand and rub your palms together...then you can dab your finger and thumb tips in your palm to pick up an ever-so-light amount of product to press or "pinch" into the hair tips. Think of your palms as the painter's pallet and your fingertips as the paintbrushes (maybe that's a stretch, but I hope you get the idea). About the spray...my advice - especially if you are going for the look in the photos you posted, is to NOT use any spray. ALL of the looks in the photos you attached are loose...moveable...chunky...soft looks...you won't get anything but cripsy stiff fly-away helmet-head with spray. One question though...you said you want the look in the photos...and that you want it blonde...but didn't you dye your hair black? Chemical processes alone...add to it, going from adding color to stripping it away to become blonde again will dramatically impact the health of your hair and the ability to grow it out to look the way you want. Either way, keep up with lots of conditioning....like I said before...you won't see improvement overnight...conditioning HAS to become part of your routine if you want to grow your hair out long like that. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 26 2004 at 9:23am
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ok, well what iv been trying isnt working very well, the main look i want is this with this look, u can see, its a bit shiny and clumps together and allows for lots of movement it looks like. at the min what iv been doign is waiting for my hair to try, then working in a bit of wax (the one u suggestes) then some of that clay (the one u said) on the ends, i dont have the light gel yet or the anti friz stuff. will the light gel stop it looking a tad bit dull? what affect will the light gel have, because the method i tryed sucks. also i tryed doign my hair with soem gel with wax, i did wax and clay stuff like i said abouve but this time i added a little gel on the tips and a little all over, this stoped my hair looking dull and added clumpinf and a little movement (my hair is about.. 3 inches long im guessing) and i might dye my hair black again as when it was black i didnt use colourd hair shampoos and its dulled now. plz reply, thanks! oh one last thing, if the light gel is a spray , will it still b effective? coz i never used spray be4 |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 26 2004 at 9:27am
| also i been looking for a wide tooth comb and cant find 1, is there anywhere on the internet i can find a decent one? thx |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 27 2004 at 8:16am
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as you see in this picture , i think its the same style but not tucked behind the ears, with the stuff iv been trying its not the look iv been getting, ill try to get you soem photos when i get my camera working. also i posted abouve what i have tryed so far, coz with the current method, its just not what i been getting. thx! |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: February 27 2004 at 8:17am
| all the hair seems to be clumped together , but mine just wont do it so far,maybie the light gel and a wide tooth comb would help, but i cant find a comb that would give that much separation and i cant seem to get it, thx |
Posted By: Unregistered Guest
Date Posted: February 29 2004 at 3:45pm
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Time Time Time... I think you said your hair is three inches right now. Short hair just isn't going to hang like Kurt's hair in the photo...it has to get longer for you to get that style. The best thing you can do while your hair is growing out, is to take REALLY good care of it...which (tell me if you are getting tired of me saying this)...means lots of good conditioning and few-or-no chemical treatments (such as coloring). I know how insainly maddening it is to have a style in mind and just have to wait for your hair to grow out enough for it to look like you want in the photo. But what I know works with a lot of people, is to still keep that "end-in-mind" look you want...hang on to those Kurt and Depp photos, but in the mean time, try to find some photos of really cool styles with hair that is your current length. |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: March 04 2004 at 7:04am
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well ok just go through it one more time plz, at the min im doing normal stuff, shampoo, condition about every 2-3 days, how often should i shampoo/con/deep con if im adding a bit of wax when my hair is wet to have a sleekish look (i know its not wot i want but its workin for now) and some wax n gel at the bangs. thx also having trouble getting wide-tooth comb coz i cant find and dunno wot im lookin for , thx! |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: March 04 2004 at 7:23am
| oh, and i cant find this wide tooth comb lol, i looked on adsa website and on ebay, plz help :D |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: March 04 2004 at 7:27am
| oh one last thing, when i start washing my hair better, will split ends go away? coz i do have a few, just wondering if u could repair them or something |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: March 04 2004 at 8:49am
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*sorry for spamming up the boards* ok problem time, i just washed my hair and conditiond it and the hair at the front (bangs) kinda has a curl to the right on it, which it didnt have be4, this coz i didnt wash everything out properly? n e way, some gel fixed that, but the way the hairdresser cut my hair sucks, is all jagged and didnt cut bangs in streight line, well it is, but its all jagged and has chunks out here and there, i dont really wanna get my hair cut again. but i guess if i cant fix split ends, that wot im gonna have to do :( |
Posted By: GUEST!
Date Posted: April 20 2004 at 6:43am
| u here? u havent posted for quite some time :D |